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FattyBoomBatty 04-06-2012 11:17 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Buy a vacuum pump and put the crank case in a vacuum, then it won't leak.

turbotalon1g 04-07-2012 07:46 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 403544)
My Eibachs actually did settle from initial install, not a lot just from driving around a bit. From when you install them, load isnt 100% yet...

X3 on a DSM, and a lot on other cars.

Kracka 04-07-2012 09:10 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Sounds like whoever built/assembled the engine should be responsible for that leak, not you. Any reputable place offers at least a defect warranty. This was ERL or something, right?

Kracka 04-07-2012 09:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 403633)
X3 on a DSM, and a lot on other cars.

I guess I'm just a lot more particular with the assembly than most; I've installed lowering springs on numerous cars and never had one "settle" after initial suspension compression. Oh well, either way, doesn't matter.

Murlo26 04-10-2012 10:04 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Few questions...

Does the rear diff and tcase use the same fluid? (It looks like it does minus the AYC part) Also should the AYC fluid be changed as well?

And what do people put in those? Stock diaqueen? Or is it worth it to upgrade/change? I need to change that fluid soon, including oil so I need to go buy some.

Kracka 04-10-2012 11:48 AM

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OEM Mitsu Diaqueen 90W LSD in the transfer case and one part of the rear differential. OEM Mitsu Diamond ATF SP3 in the other part of the rear differential. These are all simple drain/fill fluids; the AYC/ACD hydraulic fluid (also Diamond ATF SP3) does not need to be regularly changed or bled.

Murlo26 04-10-2012 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 403868)
OEM Mitsu Diaqueen 90W LSD in the transfer case and one part of the rear differential. OEM Mitsu Diamond ATF SP3 in the other part of the rear differential. These are all simple drain/fill fluids; the AYC/ACD hydraulic fluid (also Diamond ATF SP3) does not need to be regularly changed or bled.

Thanks Kracka, you da man! Others have said they switch to Motul fluids but I like the Mitsu fluid path honestly. Now I know what to use.

So the AYC/ACD should still be fine at 30k miles I am guessing? or should I swap that out?

simulatedwood 04-10-2012 12:11 PM

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+1 on the mitsu fluids. The one gallon of the of Diaqueen will last you a couple diff changes. Both sides should be changed in the rear differential, but you do not need to change out the ACD or AYC reservoir or bleed the system. Does that make sense?

Murlo26 04-10-2012 12:13 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Yes, I just wanted to make sure I didn't need to bleed and/or do the reservoir. Going to order up the two Mitsu fluids and put it on my to do list.

Kracka 04-10-2012 01:09 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 403869)
So the AYC/ACD should still be fine at 30k miles I am guessing? or should I swap that out?

Ask me again in 10 years/100k miles :) That fluid is not considered to be scheduled maintenance.

Murlo26 04-13-2012 05:48 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Update:

So maybe a month ago I was logging the car and noticed my trims were maxed out so one of the guys on evoxforums offered to help me dial the injectors/MAF in, Clipse3gt.

Anyway, fast forward to last weekend, I made this:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/IMG_0964.jpg

Sweet duct tape intake :)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/ef4c9726.jpg

Plugged up the holes and threw this on because frankly I never did this back in the fall with Shane as I think Scheides had my stock intake/piping, which is tune the injectors with the stock MAF. Tuning big injectors with a big dumb choppy intake sucks so I wanted to start from scratch to dial it in.

Well been doing LOTS of logging over the last week or so and have gotten the trims within a few percent on the DW1300's.

Well, I was all happy today as it was Friday and I had a half day of vacation. What better to do then get some more logging done for clipse to look at?

I woke up from my NAP...raining still now. Ok, no big deal.

Get down to the evo get in the car, search for the clutch pedal...whered it go? FUCK ME IN THE ASS! Stuck on the floor, speechless. I pull it up with my foot and start the car and get it to the driveway.

Then I heat the car up to temp, reset trims and load the new MAP. While Idling I took this vid?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q77MsB40Yrg&hd=1

It doesn't look like its burning coolant does it? I have almost never seen smoke come out of my exhaust unless its really cold out but thats just condensation then. Its windy so it might be hard to tell but I could see white smoke that I don't think is typically there. Been so long so I have looked though I don't even know.

Whatever, idled the car for 15 mins for the log then went cruising. After 15mins the clutch was really bad and wouldn't return up without me pulling it so I had to take sneaky routes home to not fully stop, cutting through parking lots, running stop signs the works. Made it back and parked in my driveway.

My brother got home about 5 mins later and helped push the car in the garage as its not easy to get it moving as the clutch stays down. Then I see this in the driveway.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/IMG_0963.jpg

It appears my oil leak is getting a bit worse.

Again...speechless, too many damn problems. And this year seemed to be going so smooth.

Thank god my honda works so I can drive to the liquor store and stock up to put myself out of my misery.

Anyone wanna buy an evo? Or trade for a corvette or something stock ;)

goodhart 04-13-2012 07:51 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Ah shitty man. Drink on it tonight and deal with it this weekend. :D

turbotalon1g 04-13-2012 07:57 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Take a break from it, but if you can afford a C6.....

Kracka 04-14-2012 05:35 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Fuck...man that sucks :( What CMC do you have in there? I know Cobb refuses to sell or even install the SSP ones anymore since they've have numerous failures with all three versions.

Murlo26 04-14-2012 09:02 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Magnus CMC right nOw. Which has broke once already.

Murlo26 04-16-2012 12:05 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Well didn't get a chance to check anything out over the weekend, was pretty busy and helped Shawn yesterday with his clutch install. Planning on looking at the CMC tonight. Maybe even trying to bleed it some to see if that helps. Hopefully there is a leak there somewhere and that is the problem. Hey, one of these times its got to be something easy right? If its not leaking I guess I will order up a new evo 9 CMC, I think they are only like 100-150, so not terrible. Then spend a weekend doing it myself.

Did get some good news though today, bonus time at work yay! Steady income is fun but something about getting a bonus that is like 4 paychecks is way more fun. What to mod next? house I think.

Kracka 04-16-2012 01:08 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Good luck with the CMC, fingers-crossed it's an easy fix for once!

scheides 04-16-2012 02:26 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Wow another CMC? Do you push the clutch pedal sideways or something? Mash it on the floor for long periods of time? I just don't understand how you burn through them man :(

Is there any chance of just putting a (new) stocker w/ AMS ring back in there? Mine's still doing well (knock on wood)...

Murlo26 04-16-2012 02:31 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I only have like 5k miles on the CMC, I don't know how I could possibly drive it in a way to make it not work.

To me its a design issue if anything on the plate/adapter from magnus.

It has always squeaked from day 1 so not sure if its misaligned or it is just a shitty kit or what.

The stock one is tempting. I don't even know where mine is, somewhere at DB I am guessing as I don't think I ever asked for it back. However, with the magnus one it requires cutting some studs off which I believe are for the stock CMC. So I am prolly stuck with the magnus setup.

Kracka 04-16-2012 02:32 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Sadly, I think once you modify the firewall to accept an aftermarket unit you may not be able to go back to the stocker. I could be wrong though, maybe you can press in a new stud, or use a regular bolt w/nut instead. If it's possible, I think it's a great idea. Every year Mitsu has further reinforced the plastic so the later ones are actually pretty strong, especially with the AMS cock ring.

scheides 04-16-2012 02:56 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 404443)
Especially with the AMS cock ring.

TPAL! In a meeting with a customer even!

This is my plan, I am going to buy one and leave it on the shelf in the next month or so.

Kracka 04-16-2012 03:00 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
When/if I need to upgrade the clutch I'll be doing a ring at the same time.

Murlo26 04-18-2012 09:53 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Well I looked around and checked the line from the master to the slave last night, didn't see any leaks or fluid. The reservoir was still full so I am guessing it has to be leaking internally to the Master cylinder. The only other thing I can do is have someone get in the car and push the clutch in to see if that does anything (didn't have anyone around last night). I guess we will see. I'll prolly order a new MC this week.

Is the MC bad to replace if the magnus kit is already installed? Or is it a few hour deal? Looks like I just have to remove a bunch of shit in the way.

Edit: Anyone know a place in blaine that can powerbleed my brake/clutch system? I can't go too far as my clutch is total fubar. But a few people on evoxforums have said they have seen this happen quite a bit just how I am saying because of air in the system. So I figured I would get a really good powerbleed done before I assume the MC is done for as no one has really seen a magnus/stock 8/9 cmc fail.

Murlo26 04-24-2012 11:32 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Well I was feeling pretty good today even though I had to go back to work after a 4 day weekend and then the twins lost.

I went and bought some goodies (tools) at sears afterwork, like $350 worth...tools are fucking expensive. I guess I should've went to harbor freight.

Anyway, after I went there, came back to my house, jacked the evo up, pulled wheels off and used the power bleeder I went and picked up from Shawn at his work today at lunch.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/71ea87e1.jpg

Anyway, got everything done in a few hours, kinda taking my time, having a few drinks and opening all the new tools etc. I got in the car, pushed the clutch down a bunch and it felt good, was returning normally and all and I was pleased.

So I threw the wheels back on, lowered the car, torqued it all down and buttoned the car up for a drive...well right when I got in and turned the ignition, the clutch sank to the floor :( FML what the hell is with these POS MC's I keep getting.

This is a sad day for murlo...very sad. Gonna order a new Evo 8/9 MC I guess.

scheides 04-25-2012 06:48 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Maybe you got air in the clutch system? Bleed that too!! It's tied to the same reservoir as your brakes...you could probably even use the power bleeder on it...but do it with a helper, it's tricky.

Murlo26 04-25-2012 09:23 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 405000)
Maybe you got air in the clutch system? Bleed that too!! It's tied to the same reservoir as your brakes...you could probably even use the power bleeder on it...but do it with a helper, it's tricky.

I did bleed the slave as well. The slave takes like 2 seconds to bleed as its so close, it came through there very quick.

The brakes all were still awesome from last time I bleed them at Shawns, there wasn't like any air in there.

Frankly I don't know what else it could be but the MC.

edit:
Well I just emailed Marco. I figured that before I condemn anything or assume it is for sure broken (which I don't see how it can't be the issue) I would ask Marco for assistance. Magnus seems like a great shop so hopefully they can assist with something.

simulatedwood 04-25-2012 09:51 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
The power bleeder makes it so easy to bleed brakes, there is no way you got air in the line using that setup. Id say the MC is fubar'd! I know you said something about the angle of the MC in relation to the clutch rod was at a funny angle, I wonder if that angle could be causing the premature MC failure. Ack!

Murlo26 04-25-2012 09:55 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simulatedwood (Post 405007)
The power bleeder makes it so easy to bleed brakes, there is no way you got air in the line using that setup. Id say the MC is fubar'd! I know you said something about the angle of the MC in relation to the clutch rod was at a funny angle, I wonder if that angle could be causing the premature MC failure. Ack!

Yea AMS basically said they didn't like the Magnus setup because it doesn't sit perfectly flush against the firewall like theirs does and then causes the angle to be undesirable.

I can't be the only one who is this unlucky though if its a design flaw. I would think tons of people would have an issue. I only have like 5-6k miles on the thing.

PS. the brake bleeder is boss. So easy. However, I didn't realize at first you needed to twist the cap onto the reservoir lol, so it started leaking a lot when I put pressure on there haha.

Murlo26 04-25-2012 03:48 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Picking up a new CMC today from MAP on my way home and some more ATE super blue. The CMC MAP stocks isn't an OEM but essentially an OEM replacement. They have sold over 100 with the magnus kit and haven't had problems. They also said it has a 1 year warranty so I figured what the hell. Going to try and start the CMC install process tonight (prolly going to loaf around tonight though). I am hoping to get the car running again this weekend.

Murlo26 04-26-2012 11:54 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Made some good progress tonight.

If it weren't for the 2.5 hour nap that my couch conned me into tonight I might be further, lol.

Got all the shit in the way out (intake, ecu, brackets, brake fluid reservoir etc) and got the inside the cabin stuff unbuttoned. I would've kept going but am not sure how to get this off, I will prolly have to go buy some tool to get it off and need some advice on what to get. It was past 11 so it was too late to go to the hardware store or whatever.

See below for my dilemma...the CMC bolt on the flex line is hitting the booster, so I can't remove the big bastard.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/7e6cffd0.jpg

Another pic, of everything removed.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/f3da0107.jpg

I felt pretty good about how much I got done considering I only spent a few hours on it and a bunch was reading and cleaning up brake fluid. So much damn fluid in the reservoir, need to go buy more brake cleaner. None got on my paint on the body but the bay is blue now :)

The only weird thing I noticed is the CMC rod inside the cabin has a nut on it that was totally loose and not holding down the cup part of CMC. I doubt that would affect anything, but thoughts?

Hopefully get it mostly wrapped up tomorrow night but I have to help my cousin do brakes on his Maxima too.

scheides 04-27-2012 08:50 AM

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Ugh that is a tough spot! Maybe something like a crow's foot (I think that's what they're called) would work? Basicaly a open-ended wrench head that has a hole in it for a ratchet..could be just enough to get it loose.

rose0529 04-27-2012 09:08 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 405135)
Ugh that is a tough spot! Maybe something like a crow's foot (I think that's what they're called) would work? Basicaly a open-ended wrench head that has a hole in it for a ratchet..could be just enough to get it loose.

yup crowsfoot.

Goodluck on the car this weekend. Hope your back running... If it helps you feel better it supposed to rain this weekend :)

Murlo26 04-27-2012 09:15 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I'll try searching for a crows foot? Who has them, any old place? Like lowes? Or should I go to sears or somewhere else more focused on tools?

rose0529 04-27-2012 10:11 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051

or you can try sears to, they might have just singles.

Murlo26 04-27-2012 10:15 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Thanks Rosey! I'll stop by the Home depot tonight, won't hurt to have extra tools :)

Knoxville 04-27-2012 10:17 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 405146)
Thanks Rosey! I'll stop by the Home depot tonight, won't hurt to have extra tools :)

Maybe Bed Bath and Beyond? Not sure if you'll have time!

Murlo26 04-30-2012 11:33 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Well, Shawn texted me a great idea last week and finally I got to trying it tonight. I spent like 8 hours working on my cousins 07 maxima this weekend doing his brakes (with beers in between of course) so I didn't even want to work on my car.

Anyway, advice = pull CMC bolts off and pull CMC out at the same time as brake booster.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/7cabec20.jpg

success! Thank you Shawn!

So the instructions on the magnus leave out some stuff and make it seem so much easier than it is. There is one bolt for the plate that is absolutely buried under the dash and I had to take this off to get at the bolt at all.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/ab97f01a.jpg

No idea what it is. However I still couldn't get it really with the tools I had. I ended up just unscrewing it from the engine bay, which took forever...but finally...progress.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/100a6ca9.jpg

Anyway, I lost like half my allen wrenches somewhere, so I wasn't able to continue. The CMC bolts onto the magnus adapter plate with big ass allens, so I need to figure out that size and continue on. Half way done though, should be easier putting it back on, well once the CMC is back on, the rest isn't too bad.

Anyone know those allen bolt sizes for sure?

Halon 05-01-2012 09:06 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
This thread really makes me not want an Evo X.

Kracka 05-01-2012 09:39 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 405421)
This thread really makes me not want an Evo X.

Nothing wrong with the X. Scheides and myself are both still rocking the stock plastic CMC, and Scheides has the "weak" 2008 version with an ACT HDG6... The fuel systems can get a bit tricky at high power levels, but Scheides is doing well with a pump, BAP, injectors, and a rail. I'm still on nothing but a Walbro pump and injectors. KISS is really the key here.

turbotalon1g 05-01-2012 10:01 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 405421)
This thread really makes me not want an Evo X.

:lol:

If murlo is spending 8 hours doing brakes on a new car that might tell you something, hopefully he left out that he was replacing all 4 corners and turning them by hand or something.


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