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are those 3si wheels? I'm surprised they fit.

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They barely did after a lot of grinding. I do have 3mm spacers on the way off ebay which should make em fit a lot better. I love how much grip 245 series tires have to offer....

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with spacers will it rub on the fender or other places?

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It might rub on the fender, but I can always roll that out for more clearence. I'd rather do that than keep rubbing on the inner fenders preventing me from going full lock.

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I found an energy suspension rear control arm kit on ebay which includes lower and upper control arm bushings and the trailing arm bushing. I'm going to save myself 200 dollars and weld some washers on the active toe links.


I also called up Tirerack and ordered a set of 4 215-55-r16 General Altimax Arctic tires. I'm really excited for snow....

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Woo hoo got my tires in today:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12287.JPG


Also have been working on the Talon:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12277.JPG

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Just got done with the trailing arms at school today. Sadly no pics yet of my booger welds. Found a couple big washers over in autobody and welded them bitches solid. I've also got to remove about 6 metal sleeves inside the bushings areas of the trailing arms, lower control arms, and the mustache brace. I also want to beef up the stock mustache brace because it looks like a really flimsy piece.

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Cleaned, painted everything. Flat black ftw.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12300.JPG

Put the whole rear end together and then ended up installing it by myself and a jack.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12302.JPG

Also installed shifter base bushings, and driveshaft bushings.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12301.JPG

I was able to get it all put together today and just got home with it about a half hour ago. It'll receive an alignment at school tomorrow. I can say that in just the drive home from my parent's house, I could feel a real difference. I'll know for sure after a good alignment and some tight corners....

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Still no alignment, but I do have the stealth wheels on it with the 3mm spacers I got off ebay. I can say they fit way better than before, and the way this car handles now is like night and day to how it did before. Before, when you would get to the limit it would just understeer, no matter how much your turned the steering wheel. Now, it's completely point and shoot. Besides buying the stealth wheels, I want to say this has been the 2nd best thing I've ever done to this car. I'm still on stock springs and shocks too....


http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12309.JPG

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So a little update...


Been dailying it but I think I broke something. The other day I was out "testing and comparing" and was slowly trying to turn the boost up as I was tired of it spooling to 8 psi then slowly spike to 14. So I turned the MBC a half turn, nothing. Full turn nothing. One more full turn then it spiked to 20-25 psi. As soon as it did that it has deveolped a 5-6 psi stutter. Feels just like a rev limiter and now it won't idle after it warms up. I can actually rev it all the way to redline as long as I don't go over 5 psi. Stutters with quick throttle blips sometimes too.

I've boost leak tested it three times now, all holding 20 psi before blowing my leak tester apart. Changed plugs to bpr6es from the 7's I was running when it happened. No change, and when I pulled them today are white. I have no loss of coolant, and I don't see any milk on the dipstick. Plug wires are 8.5mm Magnacores. I'm beginning to think fuel pressure issue? I really need suggestions as I'm out of ideas....

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Have you done a compression test?

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only with a real shitty tester. hes waiting till i bring mine down

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Yes, like Travis said with a shitty tester. Came up from timing side to passenger side:

100 - 95 - 115 - 115


I don't trust the accuracy though as it's an old tester thats been sitting at school.

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Did another compression test with a known good tester. Came back like this:


120 110 135 130 from timing to trans side, cold. I'll be hopefully doing a leak down test shortly if my friend gets a hold of me.


Another tidbit... While idling in my garage it started idling too low so I tried adjusting the base on my maf-t. After I set the base all the way to zero, it started idling as it should. I'll find out if it drives any better shortly...

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trying to mess with the tune to fix a problem is like putting on a band aid on this issue that need stiches

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can you link me to the spacers you got that made those wheels work? I have a couple sets of 3/s wheels sitting around I wouldn't mind throwing on my dsm..

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Yes I know this but it does point to a fuel issue, right?




I got them off ebay. They are just the cheap, universal 5 and 4 lug 3mm spacers. You'd still have to grind material off the trailing arms and maybe a little off the spring perches. I was able to use them without spacers though, its just the spacers made everything a lot easier.

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Man what school do you go to! Thats awesome instructors let you guys work on your cars out there. Dunwoody sucks when it comes to working on your own vehicle its ridicules! I understand where the are coming from to an extend though cramped school. Good luck with your car!

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Ridicules!! lol

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White plugs points to running lean.

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I think I figured it out for the most part. I went to change to another 2g pressure regulator I found in my Stratus and to make things easier, I unhooked number 1 and 4 plug wires. I noticed that the number one plug wire must not have been making good contact as the boot was slid out farther than the others preventing it from going in all the way. After I fixed that, I put the regulator on and sure enough, idles great and pulls hard. Only thing is it now breaks up around 5k-6k. My afr's go from a steady 11.1-11.5 to 10 by 6k and thats exactly when it starts breaking up.


I've been trying to lean it out a bit on the high setting with my Maf-t and it helps but only pushes the point at which it breaks up further down the rpm range. Could my spark be blowing out? I'm rockin bpr6es gapped to .028.

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Try BPR7ES, I wouldn't trust 6s past 12psi

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I was going to try them again because I've always had 7's in this motor. I put the 6's in hoping to get me somewhere in figuring it out. I'll have to do that tonight at work.

EDIT: Forgot I took a pic yesterday:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12440.JPG

Thats my buddy's 86 Quantum Syncro. 1 of 3000 imported with the Syncro option. Factory locking center and rear diffs with an inline 5 cylinder powering it.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12430.JPG

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12429.JPG

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7's do the same thing. If anything maybe a little better. I'm considering throwing my COP on it again after a long time of not using it....

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So I've had a realization. I swapped my COP back on my car and soldered in a nice plug and what do ya know....20 psi is so fun! lol


If anybody owns a 1g awd and wants to know the single best thing they can do to they're car handling wise....it has to be welding your rear trailing arms or getting the Jay's Eliminator kit. You wouldn't believe how it changes the way the car handles.

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I'm confused, how does the jay's racing kit eliminate active rear toe?

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With that kit you basically remove the stock bushing and it's mount on the trailing arm and the jay's kit will slide in where the stock rubber was and you weld it to the arm. I opted to go the super cheap route and buy the energy susp. poly bushing set for the upper & lower control arms, and trailing arms and then welded a washer on to make it solid.

http://www.jayracing.com/images/products/ATE1.jpg

This is the only pic that you can see the trailing arms when I was done with them, right before going back in my car:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12300.JPG

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so that eliminates the lateral flex of the bushing, which creates the active toe? That seems bad to me, as your control arms don't move vertically, they move in an arc and that could create binding, no?

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I can tell you mine do not bind and neither would the Jay's racing kit. That kit uses those rod ends which I doubt will bind. If anything, going the route I did can cause binding if you do it wrong. Mine went together really easy, and works really good.

Twack has ridden with a couple times and might be able to put his 2 cents in, but I'm on stock rusty springs and shocks, stock sway bars. Poly control arm and sway bar bushings in the front as well. The way it handles is anything but stock DSM.... if I throw the car into the corner, it rotates. Even on snow tires.


:::Kind of a late edit to my post, but I must add that when I aligned my car at school I did not fully follow the factory specs. The factory is tuned with tow in already, and lots of camber from the factory in the rear. I lessened the camber just a hair and actually added a little tow out in the rear. I feel like that contributes to the nice rotation I get as well.

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So I stuffed the car in it's first ditch. You can see on the left side of the picture is where my rear end was. My right front tire was hanging off that cement pipe. Luckily there was a farmer with his tractor that was passing by just a little bit after it happened. He had a bucket setup on the front and we were able to lift the front end up and back on the wheels and then pull it out. We're pretty lucky:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC10326.JPG

All that was damaged was a bent right front rim, my wideband sensor got bent pretty good, and I need to replace a stud on my o2 housing for the downpipe. I already replaced the sensor (86 dollars later...) and my friend Zach is bringing another rim for me to paint and mount the tire on. I'll have to pull the exhaust side off my turbo to remove the stud. :( Could've been a lot worse though....

EDIT: Here is the video but for some reason ends right as my front end is about to be white washed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6vq3gcmGAM

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Long time no update...


Just got a few nice upgrades for the talon over the last couple days. Found a nice, true e3 16g turbo, some nice couplers and t bolt clamps for the gm maf, and a greddy catch can.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12836.JPG

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12837.JPG

This o2 housing didn't come with the turbo, but a stock 2g one did. This is my ported 1g o2 housing:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12838.JPG

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Installed the turbo yesterday at school. Ran it at 20 psi up until after school today with good results. Then I turned it up just a little bit more and now it seems happy at 25 psi with 11.2-10.8 afr's to redline. Pulls really hard so I'm very happy. I should try and get to the dyno day....

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I was bored on my day off today, so I made a heat shield.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12840.JPG

My catch can setup:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC12841.JPG

Dirty engine bay FTW...

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is your MBC tee'd into your BOV?

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No, I actually drilled and put a nipple on the compressor housing of the turbo for the boost controller.

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Painted the stealth wheels I got from Ryan last year. Also painted and installed a little piece from my Laser on the front:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC13002.JPG

Had to remove the muffler I welded on. Noticed the inside had fallen apart and was just floppin' around inside the muffler. So, back to straight pipe:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC13003.JPG

Still daily driving it, and the car has been running great.... aside from a little crack in the I/C. Good thing I'm in blow-through configuration. Car also handles amazing with these tires and the new e3 16g power. I get lift-off oversteer, and throttle on oversteer whenever I want. I'm very excited for autox season to start.

I'm also adding power steering to it:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC13007.JPG

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC13006.JPG

I don't have fluid in it yet so the belt is not on either. I have to get the cooler mounted and plumbed yet, so I don't want to make a mess and waste fluid.

My alternator went out a few weeks back so I bought a 90 amp gvr4 alt. from work (oreilly's), made a little heat sheild that bolts to the o2 housing, and installed a volt gauge where the cig lighter use to be.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/SDC13008.JPG

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Well I started putting fluid in and the belt on Sunday. Everything was going good until I look under the car and sure enough, there's a big puddle. I push it in the garage and jack it up. Turns out this line, number MB501433, was rusted through right where it runs through the rack mount on the passenger side.

http://www.dsmstyle.com/photopost/da...eringlines.jpg

I undo the sway bar and take the rack mount off that side and luckily I'm able to get a compression fitting to work. So far it's been holding...

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told ya from day one that was the issue, your text "o thats what you mean by leak" was priceless. pic of the repair?

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I thought you had told me one of the lines was stripped out going into the rack, not one of those lines were rusted. lol No pic of the fix, all I did was route the line out of the rack mount, cut the leaking section out and then put a compression fitting in its place.

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Tried fitting cobra rotors on my car with the stock caliper. They'll fit, but my rims won't so that idea is scratched:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...0311101746.jpg

This would be the bracket that'd have to be made:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...0311101813.jpg

Only other thing is the rotor would need to be turned down .10. Now though I'm looking at doing the 05 Outlander setup.