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scheides 05-28-2011 12:59 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Hrm you're starting to make me wonder if I shouldn't try this on my car. I have no idea what fuel pressure is though...if it is super high that would make sense why my fuel system is dropping off up top.

mlomker 05-28-2011 01:32 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Definitely recommend a fuel pressure gauge--so useful and a simple inline one is like $30. If your pressure is always too high then you will burn up the pump. There are guys that have gone through 3-4 Walbros before this issue was solved.

You would not believe how small the hole is in the return for the suction line. Holy shit! It is literally a pinhole. How the hell even the stock return fuel got through that is beyond me. Here it is AFTER I drilled it out to 5/64ths.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...ay/pinhole.jpg

What the part looks like. You need to give it a really good tug to get it out of the hanger.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...May/return.jpg

mlomker 05-28-2011 06:17 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Okay...I spent the last few hours going up one drill bit size at a time and the results were pretty predictable.

5/64ths: ~2psi
Port filter holder: ~2psi
Remove filter: ~1psi
3/32nds: ~2psi
7/64ths: ~2psi
1/8th: ~2psi

I'm now at the proper pressure at idle. I'm not going to worry about the filter since I have an inline under the hood. 1/8ths happens to be diameter of the top side of the tube so the solution was to just drill it out.

I'll have to see if the suction is still working but seeing how I went one bit a time, I think it will.

mlomker 05-30-2011 07:35 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Installed the Weldon 2015 and controller today. That thing is so badass...

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...ldon2015-1.jpg

93gtpeater 05-30-2011 07:43 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Car up and running now? Dumb question is that a wash bottle in the trunk? if so is that where they are from the factory?

Kracka 05-30-2011 07:49 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Yup, washer fluid and the battery are in the trunk from the factory. Normally they're hidden with plastic paneling, but this trunk is stripped.

mlomker 05-30-2011 08:09 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Had the car running Friday morning...took me a few days to figure out my issues with the switch back to a stock in-tank setup. Today I installed the Weldon and it appears happy.

It'll obviously need a re-tune after all of this. Next thing is to get on Shane's schedule...

Murlo26 05-30-2011 10:03 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Looking good! Are you hoping to get tuned before MAP's event?

scheides 05-30-2011 10:15 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 384917)

It'll obviously need a re-tune after all of this. Next thing is to get on Shane's schedule...
Just use your standalone logging setup to log fuel trims for now and if shane can't fit you in maybe I could trade you some street tuning time (should be pretty basic, you have a wideband right?) in exchange for letting me try out that aeromotive/jay's 255 drop-in? :) Should be pretty simple as it'd just be dialing in AFRs.

mlomker 05-30-2011 10:28 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 384924)
Looking good! Are you hoping to get tuned before MAP's event?
If his schedule permits otherwise I'll ask scheides for some help! I basically just need to make sure that the fueling is conservative with the new setup.

Quote:
Originally Posted by scheides (Post 384930)
Just use your standalone logging setup to log fuel trims for now and if shane can't fit you in maybe I could trade you some street tuning time
Not sure how accurate the PLX gauge is since I have more oil blow-by than most folks. I would love to wire that gauge into my ECU sometime this Summer, if you have the time to give me a hand.

mlomker 06-01-2011 11:30 AM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Awesome! I'm on Shane's schedule.

I have a mild fear that the Weldon 2015 won't be big enough but that's only because the X is so bizarre about its pump needs. This pump is rated for 1000bhp so it should be good into the 500s@DB on E85.

I lowered the flow using the dial-a-flow controller before driving to work this morning. It looks like I was out-flowing the capacity of the 1/4" return line a little bit since fuel pressure dropped 2-3psi. It's sitting right at 43 now, which is a good spot for it. Just need the fueling adjusted to match.

mlomker 06-08-2011 06:17 AM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Torqued that oil feed banjo bolt and it tightened 1/4 turn. It'd be nice if that were the issue.

I changed the oil and left the under-tray off for Friday's visit with Shane. I can't tell if the Hobbs switch is kicking the pump into high gear or not. The car gets so loud during a pull that I'm not going to hear the pump change speed. I've done a couple half-pulls to 15psi and the AFRs look good @11.2-11.3.

scheides 06-08-2011 07:44 AM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
That's good! Hopefully it stays that way. Does the Weldon controller operate a dual voltage setup then?

mlomker 06-08-2011 08:28 AM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scheides (Post 385652)
Does the Weldon controller operate a dual voltage setup then?
Not quite, it's an interesting device. It uses some sort of pulse modulation to limit the current but it always operates at the same voltage. You use a pot to adjust the amount of current sent to the pump at idle and then you send voltage to a terminal to trip it into full current. They say it is a 0.5v drop vs alternator voltage at 20amps.

mlomker 06-09-2011 11:22 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
It feels like Xmas Eve to me. I want this car done so bad.

I actually have as many spectator events planned for this season as driving. ChumpCar fascinates me. I'd love to join a team next year.

mlomker 06-10-2011 02:06 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
The Weldon worked perfectly from the first pull. The fuel tested as E81.

I was a bit surprised by the number for my 30psi tune. We dialed in my normal 25psi tune at 440whp.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...470hp-dyno.jpg

I'll scan the sheets after work.

scheides 06-10-2011 02:18 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Impressive peak numbers and even more impressive powerband. WOW! Congrats dude!

93gtpeater 06-10-2011 04:04 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Dam those are some very nice number for a motor with low compression. Your car has an awesome power band. Hope I can get a ride in it sometime.

mlomker 06-10-2011 04:19 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 93gtpeater (Post 385893)
Dam those are some very nice number for a motor with low compression.
Mark Leasure was there to get his IX tuned after me. He was saying that he prefers lower compression and turning up the boost. I'll just drive it if the compression numbers remain where they are (115-ish).

Speedfreak 06-10-2011 04:46 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Drive it until it smokes enough to bother you, then rebuild. No need until then. Mark is right, it's what I suggest, and I know Shane has said similar in the past as well.

turbotalon1g 06-10-2011 05:04 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
^x2.

Congrats on teh numbers, now go have fun with it.

mlomker 06-10-2011 06:10 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Dyno-Queen Tune
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...ne/470hptq.jpg
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/470hppsi.jpg
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/470hpafr.jpg

Road Course/Normal Tune
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...ne/440hptq.jpg
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/440hppsi.jpg
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/440hpafr.jpg

t-revzr 06-10-2011 06:37 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Nice numbers! 470 is some nice powa!

Murlo26 06-10-2011 08:21 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Congrats bud! Glad to see this turbo fully unleashed. I spoke with Shane, sounded like you are still blowing some smoke? Is that from the turbo seals still do you think?

Regardless, great stuff. I must have literally just missed you. I got there when Mark did his baseline tune and shot the shit with him while his car was tuned. Was hoping to see yours in action.

mlomker 06-10-2011 08:45 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 385907)
Is that from the turbo seals still do you think?
Nope, the motor has 115 compression. Most Evos are like 155.

Murlo26 06-10-2011 08:47 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Well it doesn't seem to affect power haha :)

mlomker 06-10-2011 10:02 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 385910)
Well it doesn't seem to affect power haha :)
It only blows smoke after a pull. I imagine it might burn a quart during a track day but compared to the fuel burned, the oil seems like nbd.

PlanoEvo 06-11-2011 07:23 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Very nice Michael!!! Damn this a long thread where's the mod list?

cmspaz 06-11-2011 08:01 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlanoEvo (Post 385962)
Very nice Michael!!! Damn this a long thread where's the mod list?
Mod list:

fuel pump
other fuel pump
aftermarket hanger
surge tank
other fuel pump
more fuel pump
fuel pump
fuel pump
fuel lines
another fuel pump
stock hanger
fuel pump
fuel pump

:D

Kracka 06-11-2011 10:06 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
I think about more than I forget

turbotalon1g 06-11-2011 10:18 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
^lonely drunk post, hahaha.

mlomker 06-11-2011 10:31 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
lulz. Spaz got it.

My Garage on EvoM is current:
http://forums.evolutionm.net/garage/...7-mlomker.html

PlanoEvo 06-20-2011 05:39 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Nice power!

twack 06-20-2011 08:30 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
we'll miss ya

Alpha D 06-21-2011 09:07 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
^ :( Sitting in the garage staring at all my project parts scattered through out the garage. I was in such a hurry to get it all together for BIR and run along side him. Despite the fact i didnt know him that well. His project thread was so motivating, and still IS! surely will be missed.

PlanoEvo 06-30-2011 12:27 AM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Bump to keep his dream alive! RIP friend

kozmic27 07-02-2011 10:26 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Rest in peace Michael. So young. I am truly sad. God bless your family during this difficult and sad time.

scheides 02-04-2012 12:10 PM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 327160)
Here's a pic of the Boomba fuel rail that we put in. I have yet to find a perfect fuel rail for the X. They are all annoying in some way. The AMS uses a -6an line instead of the stock quick disconnects. This Boomba rail doesn't have brackets for handling the return line (hence the zip ties).

http://mlomker.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8...f445709970c-pi
Trying to decide on next steps for fueling on my car...think I found it! Thanks lomker!

scheides 09-13-2013 09:57 AM
Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 315532)
Shane threw in a set of DW1000's and re-tuned me on E85 (E70 pretending to be E85, anyway).

I had him not get too wild with the psi. The stock X turbo can spike into the 30's but what I've been told is that it impacts torque and not hp since the boost tapers badly beyond 5500. I just didn't see the point in abusing the stock clutch like that.

I threw on a set of Icebears this afternoon for the winter fun.

On 12/12 I'm installing the rear anti-swaybar and a TWM short-shift kit. After that is the KW V3 coilovers and a Whiteline roll center kit install. A BBK, gauges, RE30's/NT05's, and some carbon aero is planned for the Spring. I intend to have this car complete by the next Mitsu cookout!

http://mlomker.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8...62c36cb970c-pi
http://mlomker.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8...62c36c3970c-pi

http://mlomker.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8...62c36d0970c-pi

Bump for an old friend still providing valuable data even after he's gone! Miss you bro!


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