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cmspaz 02-15-2012 01:10 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
12.6" VIII/IX. I'd have to test fit them on the lathe, first. Still willing to give it a shot.

Kracka 02-17-2012 11:12 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I just replaced my brakes last week with Stoptech Street pads and ATE Super Blue fluid. Skip the SS brake lines, they do nothing but cause problems (fitment, leaks, burting, etc.). I personally had a SS brake line burst on the highway and so did a good friend of mine.

No need to replace your rotors yet, but turning them can't hurt. I personally didn't touch my rotors though.

I HATE brake dust which is why I'll never touch aftermarket Ferodo pads (OEM pads are Ferodo and they dust like crazy, aftermarket Ferodos are even worse). They stop awesome though! I've personally had and liked the Stoptech Streets and RacingBrake ET500's in terms of performance, dust, noise, etc. I've also had Girodisc Junks...I mean Magics...and despised them like the devil due to their non-linear friction coefficient throughout the temp range. Some day I'd like to try the "new" Kevlar EBC Redstuffs...

Murlo26 02-17-2012 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 400202)
I just replaced my brakes last week with Stoptech Street pads and ATE Super Blue fluid. Skip the SS brake lines, they do nothing but cause problems (fitment, leaks, burting, etc.). I personally had a SS brake line burst on the highway and so did a good friend of mine.

No need to replace your rotors yet, but turning them can't hurt. I personally didn't touch my rotors though.

I HATE brake dust which is why I'll never touch aftermarket Ferodo pads (OEM pads are Ferodo and they dust like crazy, aftermarket Ferodos are even worse). They stop awesome though! I've personally had and liked the Stoptech Streets and RacingBrake ET500's in terms of performance, dust, noise, etc. I've also had Girodisc Junks...I mean Magics...and despised them like the devil due to their non-linear friction coefficient throughout the temp range. Some day I'd like to try the "new" Kevlar EBC Redstuffs...

Well I actually just ordered several things and was going to post here.

Ordered new OEM serpentine belt, ATE super blue fluid and Ferodo 2500's front/rear pads.

Dust doesn't bother me a ton as my wheel color hides it really well. I also don't drive mine every day so the dust won't build up too fast. I rode in Scheides' car when he had these pads and it stopped pretty damn good from what I remember so I figure they are a good choice. Need something to stop all my power.

I did skip the SS lines for now. I did see you replaced your pads Kracka and was going to ask what you did for your rotors. Maybe I will just leave mine, we will see. Seems easy enough to turn them.

I was also planning to add a RSB as it seems like the "best" cheap mod left I haven't done. I was leaning toward the Whiteline 27mm one but was curious about endlinks? Do I need them?

Shane@DBPerformance 02-17-2012 12:10 PM

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We put the Girodisc magic pads on my wife's Evo 8 to try to get rid of squealing and it worked for a couple days and is now squealing worse than ever, we haven't run them at any track events, so I have no idea if they are any good for that, but I doubt it. We had the Stoptech pads on the car at the start of last year, they were an ok street pad, but didn't perform very well on the track. I have been less than happy with the Brembos on my wife's car and some of our customer cars who race with them.

scheides 02-17-2012 12:37 PM

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Whiteline + stock endlinks, this should have been in round one of your mods sir :P

Cool on the brakes, should be a fine setup for ya! I know mine have been great for pure street use.

Murlo26 02-17-2012 02:10 PM

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Well after I get some of the parts I have installed I will probably get the whiteline RSB. That sounds like a good bday present to myself in May. I'll wait until then I think.

Two more questions:

Is 1 can of super blue enough to do a brake flush? And does anyone have a good brake bleeder?

I am thinking about this one:

http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/M...r-Bleeder.html

simulatedwood 02-17-2012 05:58 PM

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1 can of super blue is good for 2 brake flushes. If you need a brake bleeder, I have mlomker's Motive power bleeder that works just awesome, I can loan to you for the job.

Shane,
As far as track pads go the Hawk HP+ pads worked good for tracks use, they didnt fade most of a 20 minute session on the x and are semi decent for street use. They are however the loudest pad you could ever use on the street. They were recommended by the frozen rotor guys (Team Tubby Butterman for chumpers) and so far I have been satisfied. The frozen rotor guys basically said going a more aggressive pad would be a track only use. So after the HP+ are done, the is x is getting a track only setup with Raybestos ST-43 pads next. Also as far as rotors go, very impressed with the wear on the frozen rotors, still like new after 2 track events, with very little grooving or cracking.

Shane@DBPerformance 02-17-2012 06:25 PM

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We have run track only pads on the car at the track. We have had a lot of brake judder issues on my wifes car after a couple sessions even with new rotors, new pads, trying different bed-in techniques, etc.

Kracka 02-18-2012 11:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 400210)
I was also planning to add a RSB as it seems like the "best" cheap mod left I haven't done. I was leaning toward the Whiteline 27mm one but was curious about endlinks? Do I need them?

Stock end-links are fine with the Whiteline and most others; Scheides, Rmondoh, myself, and many others still use them. The only guys that seem to break them are the ones running the ridiculous 32mm Hotchkis.

Murlo26 02-22-2012 10:06 AM

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I bought the whiteline swaybar too now. It's too inexpensive to not have such a great mod (from what I hear anyway).

And Shawn, I will prolly take you up on that brake bleeder. Maybe I will pick it up when we screw around with my serpentine belt fix.

cmspaz 02-25-2012 06:31 PM

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I decided to measure the brake lathe here at work today, and from the centerline of the shaft to the furthest the bits travel is 7 3/4". I'd say that would comfortably cut a 14" rotor.

Murlo26 02-25-2012 06:48 PM

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I talked with my buddy who works at an Infiniti dealer (to see if he could do the rotors for me) and he spoke with a brembo rep and you aren't supposed to turn the brembo rotors.

He asked because on their cars you aren't supposed to either. So I am just going to do pads and fluid I think.

Thanks for checking though bud.

93gtpeater 02-25-2012 07:55 PM

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If you dont turn them I would at less take some fine sand paper and rough them up a bit. Thats what I do works great.

Murlo26 02-25-2012 08:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 93gtpeater (Post 400666)
If you dont turn them I would at less take some fine sand paper and rough them up a bit. Thats what I do works great.

That's what my buddy said to do, I was probably going to do it.

Thanks.

TkrPerformance 02-25-2012 08:51 PM

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I turned the Evo brembos and the slotted dba's for the brembos up at orillys

cmspaz 02-25-2012 10:13 PM

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Just because Brembo won't release specs for them and tells you to buy new ones (a brilliant business model, btw) doesn't mean you can't, it just means you shouldn't be stupid about it when you do. I wouldn't turn them more than once, and would refrain from turning them at all if highly abrasive metallic pads were used and will be used again.

Murlo26 02-25-2012 10:34 PM

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Used stock pads before, this is my first brake change. Switching to Ferodos.

No idea what is best honestly. Kracka didn't do anything to his.

Kracka 02-26-2012 08:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 400673)
Kracka didn't do anything to his.

Neither did Armando, no issues for either of us. The stock rotors on the WRX are on their 3rd set of brake pads and they've never been resurfaced or even sanded.

Speedfreak 02-26-2012 11:33 AM

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In general, if the rotor isn't warped, I don't turn them ever. If they are groved from aggresive pads, great, the pad will wear to that shape and I have that much more contact area.

Murlo26 03-03-2012 08:10 PM

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Just gathered everything I need to install soon! Who's in? :)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/58893412.jpg

goodhart 03-04-2012 01:58 PM

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No moar monster truck!

Kracka 03-05-2012 08:28 AM

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Nice combo of parts!

scheides 03-05-2012 09:09 AM

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Hah, didn't even notice the springs!

I'm up for a big install once it warms up a bit :)

simulatedwood 03-05-2012 09:25 AM

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Man nice pile of upgrades you have there! When you bring the car down for the belt investigation, bring down the rest, most of that stuff should be an easy install.

Shawn

Murlo26 03-05-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 401118)
Hah, didn't even notice the springs!

I'm up for a big install once it warms up a bit :)

Thanks bud, I am sure I will hit you up for some help on a few things :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by simulatedwood (Post 401121)
Man nice pile of upgrades you have there! When you bring the car down for the belt investigation, bring down the rest, most of that stuff should be an easy install.

Shawn

Will do Shawn, I am guessing towards the end of March I'll be calling you to set something up!

I can't wait to get all this stuff installed. So many little things I have neglected...time to do them.

Murlo26 03-11-2012 09:45 PM

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Spent about 30 mins yesterday unraveling serp belt from one of my pulley's. Then I grabbed my battery off the tender, threw it in the car and it fired right up! Yay.

It's ready to go to Shawns place this Saturday to figure out WTF is up with the pulley's and put a new belt on.

Can't wait to start having fun with it again.

Murlo26 03-12-2012 11:37 PM

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So I have been eyeing a gopro hero2 big time lately. But instead landing on this:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/2a0fe873.jpg

God, spending over $100 on center caps...ugh.

FattyBoomBatty 03-12-2012 11:42 PM

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Don't wheels come with hub caps? You should have gone to the junkyard and gotten some ones that fit off an old car.

CornFed2.4 03-13-2012 12:07 AM

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Pretty sure you won't find RPF-1 "hub caps" in a junkyard.

simulatedwood 03-13-2012 07:10 AM

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Dave,

Those look really nice. Are those caps alloy or plastic? Looking for some replacement caps for the rota's since the plastic rota caps melted and fell off the last time at the track. Whoops!

C3L1CA 03-13-2012 08:26 AM

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$100 on center caps ftl, I'm not looking forward to buying some.

They'll look nice though!

Murlo26 03-13-2012 09:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by simulatedwood (Post 401610)
Dave,

Those look really nice. Are those caps alloy or plastic? Looking for some replacement caps for the rota's since the plastic rota caps melted and fell off the last time at the track. Whoops!

You are like the 4th person I have talked to that has had their rota caps melt off haha.

As for mine, I am quite certain they are metal of some kind. I looked at them for about two seconds last night when I got home. I am going to throw them on today after work so I will confirm then. I'll have them on when I come over this weekend, so you can see if you like them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 401616)
$100 on center caps ftl, I'm not looking forward to buying some.

They'll look nice though!

Yea I held off for almost 2 years because I couldn't stand the idea of spending that much on them, but tax return money was a solid this year so I figured what the hell, I want the clean look.

goodhart 03-13-2012 09:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty (Post 401596)
Don't wheels come with hub caps? You should have gone to the junkyard and gotten some ones that fit off an old car.

Cause people totally want center caps off some ratty old POS on their $35k car...

turbotalon1g 03-14-2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 401664)
Cause people totally want center caps off some ratty old POS on their $35k car...

I don't even like having steelies and hub caps on my $5k car. :scsa:

Murlo26 03-14-2012 09:24 AM

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Shawn, looks like these are metal. They are so light I am guessing aluminum? Shit if I know haha :)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/0a918edc.jpg

Anyway, put insurance back on the car yesterday...gonna go cruising tonight after bowling. Probably just around the block as I don't want to rape the serp belt any more than needed so I can drive it to Shawns this weekend.

turbotalon1g 03-14-2012 09:36 AM

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Sounds like a blower car with all this talk of belt trouble.

Murlo26 03-14-2012 09:38 AM

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it went through two belts in like 300-400 miles :( It's lame. Stupid problem, but if that is my worst problem I am alright with it. Damn DSM's I tell ya.

turbotalon1g 03-14-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 401701)
it went through two belts in like 300-400 miles :( It's lame. Stupid problem, but if that is my worst problem I am alright with it. Damn DSM's I tell ya.

Doesn't sound like a DSM, didn't you change from stock pulleys?

Murlo26 03-14-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 401703)
Doesn't sound like a DSM, didn't you change from stock pulleys?

Yes as other people seem to be running them without issues. They are metal vs. plastic. The plastic OEM ones are known to wear out in 30k miles or so and break off bits and snap belts.

I tried being proactive and changing them while the motor was out...it backfired.

DSM's don't have problems? I know my car does.

turbotalon1g 03-14-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 401706)
Yes as other people seem to be running them without issues. They are metal vs. plastic. The plastic OEM ones are known to wear out in 30k miles or so and break off bits and snap belts.

I tried being proactive and changing them while the motor was out...it backfired.

DSM's don't have problems? I know my car does.

All cars can have problems, esp. if a person is changing something on them. Usually the risk of problems can usually go up.
Its just annoying people can't do things correctly and blame it on the car.

That's nuts they use plastic OEM, where do you get metal ones? some company made them? are they lightweight or overdrive?

Good thing being proactive, it could save you from being stuck on teh side of the road. :drive1:


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