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Murlo26 06-07-2010 05:41 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
So is Shane tuning this again this week sometime with the double pumper? Or is it just hanging there until he finds free time he doesn't have with a goal of getting it before your next event?

mlomker 06-07-2010 05:54 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 343550)
So is Shane tuning this again this week sometime with the double pumper?

That's the plan. The BlaqOPs kit is enabled and I'm hoping that with a good ground on the pumps and a full tank of fuel that he'll be able to tune the fucker. lol.

I told him to throw in the ID2000's and give me a 28psi/9k rpm tune. I must admit I waffled a bit about just going for 32psi but I want to drive it a while and make sure that everything is sound before I go for a max tune.

Murlo26 06-07-2010 05:57 PM

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32psi would be so much fun though :waterski:

Murlo26 06-07-2010 05:59 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
One thing I never thought about really for you...is that you are doing road courses...you should really get a surge tank setup with all the fuel starvation issues people have seen.

mlomker 06-07-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 343553)
you should really get a surge tank setup with all the fuel starvation issues people have seen.

I've deferred some decisions until I decide what my 'thing' is. This is my first sports-car and I just haven't had time to figure that out.

It's not a big deal to dump a 5gal can in the tank after each session for now.

mlomker 06-07-2010 11:18 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Now I'm wondering if my oil burning (and dipstick spitting) is related to the catch can setup.

I did some research online but there doesn't seem to be a lot of consensus on how to configure them. I'm thinking that I might need to drill out the stock PCV valve and put an inline check valve on the outlet port of the can. Have to find someone that knows how to set that up right...

goodhart 06-07-2010 11:50 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Kracka vents FTW! Scheides would know how to hook all that up, he had them on his VIII.

t-revzr 06-07-2010 11:51 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 343613)
Now I'm wondering if my oil burning (and dipstick spitting) is related to the catch can setup.

I did some research online but there doesn't seem to be a lot of consensus on how to configure them. I'm thinking that I might need to drill out the stock PCV valve and put an inline check valve on the outlet port of the can. Have to find someone that knows how to set that up right...


We were talking about this when you were on the dyno. I think Scheides said it looked right tho...

scheides 06-08-2010 12:05 AM

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Could def ditch the stock PCV's for some Kracka Vents, these things are magic. I'll look at my car and see what the stock PCV's are like, I'm sure there's a way to circumvent them. If nothing else, you could put the KV's inline with them.

mlomker 06-08-2010 08:22 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 343624)
I'll look at my car and see what the stock PCV's are like

Would def appreciate that. The only one that I'm aware of screws into the valve cover (passenger front of it). Unless that Boomba can has a built-in check valve then the intake is probably pressurizing the can right now. I need to check that the next time I'm at DB.

The Kracka vents install inline on one of the hoses? I haven't ordered them yet...want to figure out what I'm going to do first.

mlomker 06-08-2010 08:25 AM

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Shane got my car on the dyno super late last night. He said it's "better" than it was but the progressive pump still allows too much back-flow when compared to a dual GSS342 setup. Said he could only get 200hp without the second pump turned on.

I'm tired of dinking with it. BlaqOPs has a Hobb switch in the mail so I'll just convert to the tried-and-true method. It looks like the progressive pump only works in the stock pump housing because the Y connector that he uses on that setup doesn't produce the back-pressure that the Full Blown housing does.

scheides 06-08-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 343668)
Would def appreciate that. The only one that I'm aware of screws into the valve cover (passenger front of it). Unless that Boomba can has a built-in check valve then the intake is probably pressurizing the can right now. I need to check that the next time I'm at DB.

The Kracka vents install inline on one of the hoses? I haven't ordered them yet...want to figure out what I'm going to do first.

Yup you'd just put the Kracka Vents between the catch can and IM, to keep pressure in the IM but allow vacuum to suck air from the crank case/valve cover. Talk to kracka before ordering, I bet he can get you them direct at a good price ;)

Checking on the boomba can would be easy, just pull both of the hoses and blow through the one going to the IM. If you can feel *any* air coming out of the VC side, there's no checkvalve in there, and that's bad. The stock PCV can do some, but a beefier setup is def nicer.

Murlo26 06-08-2010 09:44 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 343669)
Shane got my car on the dyno super late last night. He said it's "better" than it was but the progressive pump still allows too much back-flow when compared to a dual GSS342 setup. Said he could only get 200hp without the second pump turned on.

I'm tired of dinking with it. BlaqOPs has a Hobb switch in the mail so I'll just convert to the tried-and-true method. It looks like the progressive pump only works in the stock pump housing because the Y connector that he uses on that setup doesn't produce the back-pressure that the Full Blow housing does.

Well that sucks man...hopefully you get this sorted out. I think i heard your car on the dyno when Danny called me at like 8 pm, haha.

Those guys are going to need a vacation soon big time.

mlomker 06-08-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 343672)
Talk to kracka before ordering, I bet he can get you them direct at a good price

I have exchanged a couple PMs with him. I decided to go with another brand since I found some shiny, bling ones. I found some pictures of how they get installed and that couldn't be easier.

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Checking on the boomba can would be easy, just pull both of the hoses and blow through the one going to the IM.
That was the plan! I'm not going to rely on it but I'm curious now because 'Hollywood' on EvoXforums was complaining about his Boomba can blowing up and not getting replaced under warranty. If they are getting pressurized then that would explain it but they have in/out ports on them so there might be a valve there.

mlomker 06-08-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 343681)
Those guys are going to need a vacation soon big time.

The email was at 11:30pm. When it's a two-guy shop then I imagine that vacations are difficult to take...

Kracka 06-08-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 343684)
I have exchanged a couple PMs with him. I decided to go with another brand since I found some shiny, bling ones.

LOL I had the set on my IX powdercoated gloss black.

asshanson 06-08-2010 02:00 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 343681)
I think i heard your car on the dyno when Danny called me at like 8 pm, haha.

Same here, I heard a car on the dyno around 8:30, I was really surprised to get a call that late.

Good luck figuring out the fuel pump issues, I hate when stupid issues cause such large setbacks like this.

mlomker 06-08-2010 08:45 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
I got the new wiring harness (a Hobbs switch & relay) from BlaqOPs and I got half-way to DB when I remembered something....BlaqOPs had cut off the standard Walbro power connector in the second pump position because their progressive unit uses spades for the power connection.

Damn. I drove back home and just sent an email to Full Blown. I hope LJ can hook me up.

mlomker 06-08-2010 09:34 PM

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LJ has what I need. I'll go to DB after work tomorrow to swap in the new setup.

FullBlown 06-08-2010 09:38 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 343867)
I got the new wiring harness (a Hobbs switch & relay) from BlaqOPs and I got half-way to DB when I remembered something....BlaqOPs had cut off the standard Walbro power connector in the second pump position because their progressive unit uses spades for the power connection.

Damn. I drove back home and just sent an email to Full Blown. I hope LJ can hook me up.

We stock a bunch of them. Swing by anytime Mike.


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