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Murlo26 06-24-2011 09:45 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I always backed up DW in threads and said some people just suck at tuning and others are just quick to blame the injectors etc etc.

But I couldn't help but wonder when my motor went.

Wanted a 3rd party to check em first and I am sending them back to DW soon for their own evaluation and also hopefully a refund since they were giving so many p0300's.

Murlo26 06-30-2011 09:24 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Ok, so maybe I am being paranoid here but I want to check with some other people to make sure.

I seem to always get screwed in deals involving used parts, cars and just generally scams.

So this guy, seems decent enough from EvoM just paid me $1800 for my FPblack, its in my paypal account now.

Should I just get it back to my bank account and ship it and be done? The reason I ask is he told me not to send it to his paypal account's address as he was moving and I need to send it to a friends.

For some reason last minute changes like this scare me. I mean I guess I could just get the money and ship it and yay for me I sold it, but for some reason I am a little nervous.

Do I have a reason to be? It's $1800 so that worries me, on other stuff I've sold its a few hundred, not the end of the world if it doesn't work out but this is different.

Are there any paypal scams or anything I should be concerned about? I am questioning him now via PM.

help my noob ass.

mdost03 06-30-2011 09:49 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Hmm, that is kinda fishy. If you deposit the money into your bank account, it should be good to go right? They can't take it back once it's out of the paypal account?

Murlo26 06-30-2011 09:51 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I am confirmed on paypal so they have my bank account number so not sure.

It seems as though he gifted it so I don't think paypal can do anything if this guy disputes it but I am not sure.

Tephra told me to have the guy update his paypal.

mdost03 06-30-2011 09:52 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 387372)
I am confirmed on paypal so they have my bank account number so not sure.

It seems as though he gifted it so I don't think paypal can do anything if this guy disputes it but I am not sure.

Tephra told me to have the guy update his paypal.

If it was gifted to you, I believe you are in the clear. I am kind of a paypal n00b though as well, but people always say never to gift money to someone for a part because if they never send it, you are screwed.

Kracka 06-30-2011 09:53 PM

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Transfer to bank and verify with Paypal that the account hasn't been hacked. Also make sure the Paypal address matches the email address registered with the forum. Is it a newb? Feedback rating? Verified Paypal account?

Murlo26 06-30-2011 10:03 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
It says non Us Verified.

He is Grif on EvoM, I googled his real name, he had a facebook with evo X's which made me feel better and he has been around on EvoM for a while, as in like 2-3 years, but only 22 posts.

Kracka can you PM me his forum email?

he had two itrader postive reviews on EvoM as well.

scheides 06-30-2011 10:03 PM

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Have him do some extra work to prove the address, letterhead, pics of his old address and new address, something creative that he can't fuk up and that will let you know he is who he says he is. If you have the money, who cares.

Murlo26 06-30-2011 10:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 387377)
Have him do some extra work to prove the address, letterhead, pics of his old address and new address, something creative that he can't fuk up and that will let you know he is who he says he is. If you have the money, who cares.

See that is basically how I feel now, I can transfer to my account and ship it and whatever, done.

As I said before, I believe he gifted it, so paypal doesn't get involved really right? anyone?

It just seems fishy to me, maybe its cause I have had a few drinks tonight or maybe because I seem to find myself getting scammed for trusting people too easily, not sure. My evo 8 I was scammed on by a dealer and it cost me 2 years of having an evo I couldn't drive and a lot of money and arbitration, so that is why I am paranoid now.

Murlo26 06-30-2011 10:18 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Here's the PM response:

Oh, yes I am actually moving. All my stuff is in the garage at my new house, but they are doing renovations so I can't actually move into the house yet, that's why I didn't mention I was moving because I thought I would be in the house by now. I decided to buy the turbo right away because you said you had another person looking to buy it, and it's a really good deal. I'm staying at my grandmas house believe it or not lol, so I didn't really want to ship it there as she lives in a seniors home. If you like I can send you pictures of my stuff in the garage as proof lol.

If you like you can wait until you get the money in your bank. I have no problems with that. And yes I gifted the money, just so there wouldn't be paypal fees. When I bought my tires off evom, the seller wouldn't ship them because fees took 40 bucks from the price. So I thought I would avoid that by sending it as a gift. Sorry, guess I should have asked first.

I have only purchased two other things off evom. I bought my rims, which were $2800 from a member called Tantrum X and my tires which were $850 from a member called l888apex. You could probably ask them if you like.

I actually wasn't even planning to buy another turbo as I had an fp red ready to go in my car, but I thought about it and decided to buy something bigger. My friend who I'm Shipping the turbo to is actually the guy who bought my red. He's my beat friend lol.

So hopefully that answers your questions. If you have any more just let me know. I'm not trying to scam you or anything, sorry if it seemed that way.

Mike


I also just go off the phone with paypal. They said the only thing he can do is dispute it with his credit card company as it was a gift, but she said I basically have nothing to worry about.

Looks like I'll just ship it out after the payment clears to my bank.

mike55112 06-30-2011 10:51 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 387379)
Here's the PM response:

Oh, yes I am actually moving. All my stuff is in the garage at my new house, but they are doing renovations so I can't actually move into the house yet, that's why I didn't mention I was moving because I thought I would be in the house by now. I decided to buy the turbo right away because you said you had another person looking to buy it, and it's a really good deal. I'm staying at my grandmas house believe it or not lol, so I didn't really want to ship it there as she lives in a seniors home. If you like I can send you pictures of my stuff in the garage as proof lol.

If you like you can wait until you get the money in your bank. I have no problems with that. And yes I gifted the money, just so there wouldn't be paypal fees. When I bought my tires off evom, the seller wouldn't ship them because fees took 40 bucks from the price. So I thought I would avoid that by sending it as a gift. Sorry, guess I should have asked first.

I have only purchased two other things off evom. I bought my rims, which were $2800 from a member called Tantrum X and my tires which were $850 from a member called l888apex. You could probably ask them if you like.

I actually wasn't even planning to buy another turbo as I had an fp red ready to go in my car, but I thought about it and decided to buy something bigger. My friend who I'm Shipping the turbo to is actually the guy who bought my red. He's my beat friend lol.

So hopefully that answers your questions. If you have any more just let me know. I'm not trying to scam you or anything, sorry if it seemed that way.

Mike


I also just go off the phone with paypal. They said the only thing he can do is dispute it with his credit card company as it was a gift, but she said I basically have nothing to worry about.

Looks like I'll just ship it out after the payment clears to my bank.


That seems pretty legit.I can see why you are worried though.

Murlo26 06-30-2011 10:53 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I asked him to take pictures of the garage with his stuff and also pictures of mail to himself with his paypal address on it.

We will see where this goes.

In the meantime I called my bank too to see their opinion. I am going all out to ask as many people as I can about this.

Speedfreak 07-01-2011 10:41 AM

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You are never completely safe with Paypal. If he disputes it with his CC company, the money will be held(even if it's left your paypal account.. your account will go negative and paypal and CC will come after you for it) and you will possibly lose the money.

Things you have to do to prove your case when it's disputed:

Copies of all correspondance with buyer.

Tracking info for shipment.

Ship it insured

Ship it with signiture required

Generally they say it has to ship to the billing address or else you are screwed case wise.

Hope this helps.

Murlo26 07-01-2011 10:49 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Right and the whole shipping it to a friends house worries me, that's the only thing.

I am half tempted to close my paypal account now as then they can't do shit I wouldn't think, once I get the money.

Regardless, I spoke with 2 people on evoM that dealt with him and they said their transactions went fine with him.

I am quite sure paypal is out of it at this point as he gifted it. Maybe the CC company will come after me but I guess I don't care. If that is the case then shit happens and I will deal with it. i don't know what else to do as he supposedly doesn't have a billing address.

he also said he didn't use a CC, he used his bank account so I should really be fine (assuming he isn't a scammer of course). That actually corresponds with him saying he had to wait for his paypal to link to his bank account as he waited a few days before sending it.

Murlo26 07-13-2011 09:20 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
The whole FPblack thing worked out fine, I was just being paranoid but it did seem fishy.

My MAP EF4 is being built now, they said 2 weeks but it will be a bit longer I guess because Bob is out so porting is delayed.

Here is my flow sheet from RC just for reference on my old injectors.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...jectorflow.jpg

scheides 07-13-2011 10:06 AM

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So...it says 'after cleaning' did they clean them before testing them, or just throw them in the tester as-is?

Murlo26 07-13-2011 10:11 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I wondered that myself, and honestly I am not sure. I don't think I paid for them to clean them but maybe they did. They were pretty clean when I sent them, as in no gunk or anything.

If anything the cleaning might of just helped get them all closer and what not, I doubt it would seriously affect the results but I could be wrong.

311evo 07-13-2011 02:25 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
If something was gumming up the injector it could make a big difference for that cylinder I would think.

But with how old they were, and you running ethanol, I doubt that would be the case.

Shane@DBPerformance 07-13-2011 02:38 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
You never know, but you would think maybe they would have said something if one was way out of wack. We had one customer switch to E85 and he couldn't even make it here on the base tune we gave him because some of his injectors clogged right away. He got them cleaned and they were all back to normal, but the before number on one of them was down to 30cc. I have had older Supra and Mustang guys have to clean their fuel filters 2 or 3 times during a single dyno session because they were pulling so much crap out of their old ass gas tanks.

311evo 07-13-2011 02:42 PM

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^ ahhh yes, I forgot about the infamous black gunk.

Murlo26 07-13-2011 03:41 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I checked with RC, they did not clean them as their tech inspected them and they were clean. Cleaning would've been additional money.

Murlo26 07-14-2011 11:44 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Bought Eibach Springs today! YAY. They are at MAP waiting :)

Good bye monster truck ride height. Time for more fender rolling and modifying the inner lining up front. Might have to adjust my exhaust too.

Scheides after my car gets running again I'll have to take you up on the offer of helping with them :) I shall provide beer and food of choice.

Anyone have a fender roller and has done it before to help me do it?

scheides 07-14-2011 12:12 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Sounds good man :) I don't have a fender roller and have never done it--keen to learn though!

tpunx99GSX 07-14-2011 12:13 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 388104)
Sounds good man :) I don't have a fender roller and have never done it--keen to learn though!

Just use a hammer!

cmspaz 07-14-2011 12:13 PM

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Baseball bat!

Kracka 07-14-2011 12:20 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 388106)
Baseball bat!

Only if the food choice is PB&J.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ing_banana.gif

Murlo26 07-14-2011 12:36 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 388104)
Sounds good man :) I don't have a fender roller and have never done it--keen to learn though!

Well maybe I will borrow one and we can try it out on my car before we do the springs. We will see, it won't be for a while anyway.

No baseball bats, but yes to PBJ's.

Oh good news, the shortblock is done and shipping today :) YAY!

PlanoEvo 07-14-2011 09:18 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 388109)
Well maybe I will borrow one and we can try it out on my car before we do the springs. We will see, it won't be for a while anyway.

No baseball bats, but yes to PBJ's.

Oh good news, the shortblock is done and shipping today :) YAY!

PBJ's rule with extra crunchy PB!

BriK 07-18-2011 08:39 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
If you can't find anyone that owns a fender roller, Further Performance in Minneapolis rents one out for $100/week.

Murlo26 07-18-2011 09:41 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BriK (Post 388350)
If you can't find anyone that owns a fender roller, Further Performance in Minneapolis rents one out for $100/week.

Thanks for the heads up. I know Jeff (alignment guy) also has one he rents.

This is far down on my list of things to do for my car, I need to worry about getting it running first and tuned. Then whatever time/money is left get the stance fixed.

Murlo26 07-24-2011 01:46 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Smaller update:

I stopped by DB friday afternoon, saw Kracka there too (sorry for not making the bday, I had other stuff planned that didn't fall through :() and spoke with Danny for a bit.

My shortblock is there now all finished up and sexy looking with 2.2L goodness. My head is cleaned and done now, it was all good. They decked it too and pressure tested it and everything is solid now. Danny said he was going to start this week on assembling the longblock, so we are moving now. They have everything except my new turbo which MAP said will be done Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday area and they are going to drop it off at DB. We are moving now :)

Edit: I just realized I called this a small update yet this is prolly more info pertaining to the car then I normally give haha.

cmspaz 07-24-2011 10:18 AM

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Awesome update!

In for seeing it at the Cookout this year!

Murlo26 07-24-2011 10:30 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 388742)
Awesome update!

In for seeing it at the Cookout this year!

My goal is to make the cookout, same as last year. Hopefully this year it comes true.

scheides 07-24-2011 10:32 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
That is huge! Now beings the piddly details, I wasted another 3 weeks putting my car together at this stage....good luck man! LMK if you need anything!

Murlo26 07-25-2011 08:27 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 388765)
That is huge! Now beings the piddly details, I wasted another 3 weeks putting my car together at this stage....good luck man! LMK if you need anything!

Thank you sir, if anything is needed I'll let you know.

Murlo26 08-03-2011 09:30 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Never updated here, but I bought some beatrush rear diff spacers, torque solutions drive shaft carrier bushings and some AMS gate selector bushings. I have had the AMS shifter bushings for in the engine bay for a while to install too.

So all that and my eibach springs to install when I get the car...time to tighten it up :)

Murlo26 08-06-2011 05:48 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Looks like my oil pan is toast again, so Danny ordered a new one for me, it will be here Wednesday it looks like. I asked if it could be saved and he said this...

"I have hot tanked the Oil pan 3 times now and blasted 6 or 7 cans of brake clean through the seams on that internal baffle as well as about 400 gallons of compressed air!! I still can see debris stuck down in the seam. I think we just need to get a new oil pan and move forward. "

I thought about getting a Jun baffled oil pan to make sure I always have a good oil pickup point, but it didn't seem worth it at 2.5x the cost of the OEM, not to mention I am sure it would've taken weeks to get.

Danny also said he would've had the engine done Thursday if he had my head dowel pins that ERL forgot to send back, which are en route now. So getting damn close it looks like, I hope I make the cookout, thats my goal.

turbotalon1g 08-06-2011 10:42 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Good luck.

scheides 08-06-2011 10:47 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Ghey. Hopefully they can keep rockin and rollin on it!

Murlo26 08-06-2011 10:50 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
^Not until the head dowel pins get back. ERL said they sent them last Monday so not sure why they aren't at DB yet. I am sure they showed up Friday. Danny said he has everything done that he can until he can put the head back on so waiting on the dowel pins. Not sure if that means he put it in the car at all or not.


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