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mlomker 10-13-2010 11:21 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 361662)
I was providing more info incase you were worried about any fluctuation.

Yeah, I believe that.

mlomker 10-14-2010 10:37 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Given my budget, I decided to try putting in some wiring that I had on hand. I ran an 8ga wire from the engine bay and a different ground for the Bosch. I'll test that out tomorrow. It started and ran, anyway.

I plan to order a proper 4ga setup but that'll take another week since I need to drill the firewall and will have to go to Dad's for that. I should buy a battery-powered drill one of these days.

badinblack 10-14-2010 09:36 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
I feel the end is nearing, there isn't much left. good luck agin man.

mlomker 10-15-2010 07:28 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by badinblack (Post 361870)
I feel the end is nearing, there isn't much left. good luck agin man.

Thanks man. I ordered the 4ga wiring kit today and I'm sure I'll find an opportunity on the cruise to do a pull and test the current configuration. :D

I gained 1-2psi at idle just from the wiring change and that's probably a good sign.

mlomker 10-18-2010 07:52 PM

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The 8ga from the engine bay didn't change anything so I assume a 4ga wouldn't either.

I have one of those Jay Racing 044's on the way--should arrive Wed. I'll still do power distribution blocks in the trunk (that should arrive Tues) since I don't like how messy it looks right now.

turbotalon1g 10-18-2010 07:54 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
power distribution blocks are awesome, i love mine.

mlomker 10-20-2010 06:36 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Here's the Jay Racing 044. The brand-name on it is Protec. They bench test every pump prior to shipment so swapping this in tonight should answer that question.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...yracing044.jpg

TheBlizzard 10-20-2010 06:38 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Good luck man, if it doesn't work burn it. :)

mlomker 10-20-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlizzard (Post 362684)
if it doesn't work burn it. :)

haha. You have no idea how stubborn I am. Capricorn ftw.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...omker/fire.jpg

mlomker 10-20-2010 10:39 PM

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Ever done something that you knew was a bad idea because it would "only be a few minutes" or something like that?

I figured I'd be fine using an un-fused lead to prime my fuel pumps and I was reminded how powerful electricity is when messed with. Don't worry, the battery is fine.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...omker/hand.jpg

scheides 10-20-2010 11:56 PM

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Whoah kidding about the burning I thought!

I've had a burn like this before, almost lost my brother's beautiful blue 1G to it....someone ran an unfused power lead *around* a gromet in the firewall. Grrrrrr! I had holes in my fingers but not quite as bad as yours. Of course my forearm was all red and black from the flames though :(

goodhart 10-21-2010 12:14 AM

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LOL Ouch!!

mlomker 10-21-2010 08:09 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 362718)
I had holes in my fingers but not quite as bad as yours. Of course my forearm was all red and black from the flames though :(

I plugged in one end of that lead, saw smoke, and my unconscious reaction was to grab the wire and yank it to disconnect it. It's not too bad but it was one of those "stop and reflect about life" moments. lol.

Matt D. 10-21-2010 09:19 AM

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Wow, that's nuts. I'm surprised the wire didn't just melt. A guy I raced RC with long ago wired his batteries with the male connector on the battery. I warned him a few times about it (I was in high school, what did I know?) but he proclaimed he had always done it that way. Long story short is one day one of the leads touched and welded themselves to his gold wedding ring. His ring finger ended up looking about like yours.

Murlo26 10-21-2010 09:33 AM

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So did you get the pump in though?

Oh...and ouch!

A//// Guy 10-21-2010 09:44 AM

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Haha ouch! Ive melted one wire like that while wiring up a switch in my old 1g, I flipped the switch and the wire melted the plastic right off, so I turned it back off. No injuries haha.

mlomker 10-21-2010 10:03 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 362734)
So did you get the pump in though?

I did. I'll find a time/place for a pull in the next day or two to test it. I'll drive it to work for a couple days to make sure nothing leaks, etc. The Bosch made a lot of weird sucking sounds and the Jay Racing 044 sounds nice and steady, like a 255. If nothing else then it's less annoying.

Tachyon 10-21-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 362737)
I did. I'll find a time/place for a pull in the next day or two to test it. I'll drive it to work for a couple days to make sure nothing leaks, etc. The Bosch made a lot of weird sucking sounds and the Jay Racing 044 sounds nice and steady, like a 255. If nothing else then it's less annoying.

Good deal! So when will we know if the car is healed?

311evo 10-21-2010 02:21 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tachyon (Post 362739)
Good deal! So when will we know if the car is healed?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 362737)
I did. I'll find a time/place for a pull in the next day or two to test it.


badinblack 10-21-2010 09:38 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
ouch i saw i guy burn craftsman in his palm by arcing a wrench between terminals on a batt. That is when i learned to never set tools on a batt.

mlomker 10-22-2010 07:10 PM

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Saturday I'll test the fueling situation and change the oil. I have low expectations.

Sunday I'll swap on the snow tires. Not having a TPMS light will be a treat.

mlomker 10-25-2010 09:23 PM

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I made a couple quick pulls today and the fuel pressure behavior didn't look too bad.

I've decided to make an appointment with Ron @RS for an hour of dyno time. We'll test it out and I'll get the opinion of another guru if it doesn't look right. I'm going to see if I can get away from work on Friday afternoon for that.

FattyBoomBatty 10-25-2010 11:11 PM

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Is the hand healed? I imagine there'd be no "personal time" for at least a week with that type of injury, lol.

mlomker 10-26-2010 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty (Post 363373)
Is the hand healed? I imagine there'd be no "personal time" for at least a week with that type of injury, lol.

haha! Yesterday was the first full day without bandages. It looks bad but it didn't prevent me from typing (work) so nbd.

I've been single for 4-5 years now so I'm pretty resourceful. :D

mlomker 10-29-2010 06:27 PM

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Haz fuel? Ron did a half-dozen pulls on his dyno this afternoon and the new pump looked good to him. He added some fuel up-top and the AFRs responded as they should.

He is suggesting that my motor is burning oil because my catch can arrangement doesn't breath well enough (the motor is tight or needs more airflow). I'm going to try changing that up as he suggested.

I'll go back in a couple weeks and we'll try to turn up the wick. 437/366 on his dyno as it sits.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...010/rsdyno.jpg

Speedfreak 10-29-2010 07:33 PM

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So we had chatted about power source and/or grounding issues(quick/easy/cheap option). Or the pump as the next to check. If this fixed it.. Congrats!

mlomker 10-29-2010 09:39 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Speedfreak (Post 363882)
So we had chatted about power source and/or grounding issues(quick/easy/cheap option). Or the pump as the next to check. If this fixed it.. Congrats!

Yeah, I experimented for a week with ground locations and I ran a wire from the engine bay and it didn't seem to help. As soon as I dropped this Jay Racing 044 in, fuel pressure looked well behaved--I was able to hit 68psi on a couple pulls on the trip to Rock Falls last weekend.

I guess the real test will be when we try to add power.

Thanks for your help!

turbotalon1g 10-30-2010 08:05 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
So it leaning towards the pump as the problem?

scheides 10-30-2010 09:48 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
437whp at ....less than 23psi? Holy eff that is awesome!

Time for more boost and see if you can put all this fuel system bs behind you! Good luck!

mlomker 10-30-2010 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 363903)
So it leaning towards the pump as the problem?

This Jay's 044 has behaved better from the start. The original 044 wouldn't reach full psi half of the time, it'd go to 62 instead of 68+ psi.

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 363906)
437whp at ....less than 23psi? Holy eff that is awesome!

Yeah, it spiked to 25.4. I normally wouldn't be happy with how that boost curve looks but the car hasn't really been tuned. Spool is sad but mivec hasn't been touched for the cams.

mlomker 10-31-2010 04:41 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
I'm such a wimp these days...I'm winded from lugging my tires back and forth to the garage. Finally got the winters on. Need to go buy a 21mm socket so I can torque the wheels.

I ordered a new driver's axle for the Plymouth. The boot has been torn for a year (according to Dad) and I'd rather not get stranded because of something I know about. $50. Just need to learn how to install it. :)

scheides 10-31-2010 06:53 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 331151)
I spoke to MAP and they'd like the opportunity to do a stage 5 head for an Evo X. They did some milder work on their shop Evo X MR but would like to go all the way and see how it flows. They are going to check on obtaining a core and call me back with a time estimate.

Having the first stage 5 head from MAP could be fun!

Slight necro here--you got me thinking. Do you have all the info on the head? Did it end up being a full stage5? What size/brand valves did you go with?

mlomker 10-31-2010 07:17 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 364011)
Did it end up being a full stage5? What size/brand valves did you go with?

They ended up replacing all of my tappets, of course. lol.

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turbotalon1g 10-31-2010 09:59 PM

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If u are in the blaine area, feel free to stop by and use my 21mm socket.
Glad to hear its doing a lot better, you waiting for the snow to fall before you put it away?

mlomker 10-31-2010 10:10 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 364024)
If u are in the blaine area, feel free to stop by and use my 21mm socket. Glad to hear its doing a lot better, you waiting for the snow to fall before you put it away?

I ended up getting a 3/8 drive to 1/2 adapter to solve that issue. Sometimes it's nice having Sears just a few blocks away.

I'm not sure how much I'll drive the Evo this Winter. I want to try to get everything fixed on it. I figure I'll take it out on nice days or if the beater breaks down.

mlomker 11-02-2010 07:06 PM

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Got a brand new jack from Northern Tool today. That's the first time an extended warranty paid off for me.

I dropped Grimmspeed a line about their air/oil separator setup for Subarus. I'm going to see if I can test one on my Evo. It seems more elegant than catch cans.

turbotalon1g 11-02-2010 07:48 PM

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Awesome, sears is 15mins from me.

Check out JCSautomation.com he sells catch cans and can make them custom sizes or join 2 cans into one block, they work amazing.

simulatedwood 11-03-2010 08:56 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 364259)
Got a brand new jack from Northern Tool today. That's the first time an extended warranty paid off for me.

I dropped Grimmspeed a line about their air/oil separator setup for Subarus. I'm going to see if I can test one on my Evo. It seems more elegant than catch cans.

Mike, Take this for what it is worth, avoid that grimspeed setup like the plague, ask "Solid" over on mnautox.com how he feels about this separator setup.(It did not end good for his engine.) If I were you Id be all over a kracka's vent setup with some catch cans..

Matt D. 11-03-2010 09:06 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simulatedwood (Post 364315)
Mike, Take this for what it is worth, avoid that grimspeed setup like the plague, ask "Solid" over on mnautox.com how he feels about this separator setup.(It did not end good for his engine.) If I were you Id be all over a kracka's vent setup with some catch cans..

To be fair he had it plumbed all wrong, there was no way for the crankcase pressure to be relieved, regardless if he was at fault or if that's how Grimmspeed told him to install it. The guy that designed it had one on his Evo 8/9 and showed it to Scheides and myself at the spring dyno day, I'm fairly confident that he had one hose off it plumbed into a catch can with a breather. It is an excellent idea for easily adding a catch can setup when applied correctly.

goodhart 11-03-2010 09:23 AM

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Shane and Mara have one of those Grimmspeed oil-air seperator/oil caps on thier Evo. Just see how he has his plumbed, they look great in concept.


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