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Done and done!

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Even the dems are beginning to turn on Obama!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...on-suit-toxic/

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Between Obies Health Insurance Care, the economy, the war, and the border problem, they should be shaking in their boots right now. Many Dems aren't even going to get past their primaries.

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It's so nice to see that our current government has absolutely zero care what the American people think:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/15...t-arizona-law/

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Which has been proven in the recent town hall meetings where law makers literally laugh in the faces of their constituents. I'm hoping some incumbent knocks on my door so I can grill them.

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:flamethrower:

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What a piece of shit joke our judicial system has turned into: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...n-law-dispute/

THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SUPPORT THIS LAW! Democrat heads are going to roll come November meanwhile so many Republicans are being wishy-washy because they're afraid of the fucking latino vote. It won't be long now before we're entirely overrun. God forbid a state try and protect itself while our worthless federal government does nothing but enable harm.

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THANK GOD the judge stopped this. And im really surprized that the media has been covering the whole having to show papers when lawfully stopped, rather than the fact that the law allowed police to search any house WITHOUT a warrant suspected of having illegals in it. Sounds a lot like what the Nazi SS did when looking for jews.
and No chris. The majority does not support this. Just the people who yell and scream "there takin 'r jobs" every time someone crosses the border.
Its not the states job to take care of foriegn relations, its the federal government job to do so. And states like AZ need to STFU and know their roll.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...oll_shows.html
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...izona_governor
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...30-503544.html

I think it's fair to say that you're wrong. :)

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When the Fed govt fails to take care of it's foreign relations, who will take care of it? Obviously Arizona said enough is enough and took the reins themselves.

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Excuse me? Not all of us just bend over and take it (except when drunk on evil Stroh rum). Even though it is the police's job to protect us, I'm still going to do what I can to protect myself, my wife, and my property.

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The states representatives, Senators and governors need to go through the ranks of the fed government to get them changed and push for it, not pass laws like they are a sovereign nation.
Example: In a corporation, if the mailroom clerk decided it was in the best interest of the company to close 10 branch offices, there would be no way in hell that the CEO would not fire his ass.
AZ is essentially doing the same thing that illegal immigrants are doing, by not following the rules and laws that we have in place to get what they want.

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The way I see it, AZ is implementing laws that better uphold federal law and actually enforce it since the federal government does not. The system is broken, Tom, action needs to be taken in order for it to get fixed. Sitting idly by while our nation is overrun by illegals, some of whom are rapists, thieves, and murderers, just waiting for someone else to come to our rescue is not going to work.

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If a state has a problem enforcing laws and keeping itself safe then it has the right to act on its own just as the rest of us do if police aren't helping. Arizona is doing what they need to do to shore up the border because the federal government sure is not doing anything at all.

Louisiana didn't wait for Obama and company to help them out, they went right to work on their beaches and enabled fishermen to use their boats to help with containment and cleanup. Had they waited for the feds to step in they would have been up to their neck in oil and in an even worse situation than they already were.

Tom, your mindset is that of we should look up to the federal government and let them do what they want because they know what's best. You would rather wait for a handout and hope things don't get worse rather than take matters into your own hands. If where you live was being threatened by lawlessness would you not want your state to act if the federal government wasn't doing anything about it?

This isn't about politics. This is about retaining our sovereignty, securing our country and potentially saving American lives on our very own soil.

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prevention > reaction

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They didn't take my job and I want the fucking illegals out of here. If YOU are legal, WELCOME TO AMERICA, GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE, now learn English motherfucker.

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Parts of the law were held up because "it would put too big of a burden on the federal government". Good, the federal government fucked up, they should clean up.

Here's some facts:

What did Hoover, Truman, and Eisenhower have in common?

Here is something that should be of great interest for you to pass around.
I didn't know of this until it was pointed out to me.

Back during The Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the
deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American
citizens that desperately needed work..

Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal's after WWII to create jobs
for returning veterans.

And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million
Mexican Nationals! The program was called 'Operation Wetback'. It was
done so WWII and Korean Veterans would have a better chance at jobs.
It took 2 Years, but they deported them!

Now....if they could deport the illegal's back then - they could sure do it today..

lf you have doubts about the veracity of this information, enter Operation
Wetback into your favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself. (I did it)

Reminder: Don't forget to pay your taxes...
26 million Illegal Aliens are depending on you!

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The way the founders originally set it up and the way it's been pretty much till this day is state law trumps federal law.

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I'm mexican and I'm 50/50 with this law.
We all know that drugs come from Mexico, so by being able to check peoples status at the border state they might be able to stop more contraband from comng up north.

I've lived here most of my life, went to school here, never been to jail, or court, I have moving violations just like every other natural US citizen, I DONT go to hearing when I get one, I pay it in full. I've been filing my taxes since I got my first job when I turned 18, later got married and have never received ANY assistance from state.

It's very easy to say " come here legally" when I came here it wasn't my choice, my dad wanted me here not with my mom back in Mexico so ok whatever I walked my ass over here for like 3 days.
Fast forward to after I got married, wife being a US citizen we hired a lawyer to help us on this process, it's a long process, pictures, 5-6 page letter from friends and familly, fees here, fees there, I have paid 3 times for visa, which was ~$520 and which I haven't gotten yet.
Ive been on this process longer than I can remember, sometimes I just wanna cancel this and "live in the shadows" again. I got my SSN which can be traced back to me, INS, ICE and any other agency that deals with immigrants k os this, they have my info, know where I live and work. But they are taking their time at getting shit done.I just wanna get my permanent resident card.
So my point is, yes people come here ilegally because the wait is too long. And some never start a process because it takes too long and too expensive. ( so far I spent over $5k and that number still going up) they need to please hurry up and come up with something where all the people who never been in trouble, pay taxes and don't receive anything from state can stay here.

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Here comes Obama's hit squad: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/02...sheriffs-head/

Gotta pay for all these handouts some how :D

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Heard that yesterday. That's some fucked up shit. And Obama Inc. wil not do a thing about it.

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http://investigates.i2i.org/2010/08/...ment-of-labor/

The investigative arm of Colorado’s Independence Institute is reporting that officials at the state’s labor agency defied the law by disabling computer software and thereby allowing “unqualified citizens and illegal aliens” to receive unemployment insurance since early 2009.

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ICE Director has unanimous vote of "no confidence" against him from his own agents.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4303324

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Florida taking a turn at batt: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...eled-arizonas/

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Sweet

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Why don't be just open the flood gates and be done with it?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...est=latestnews

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It's all politics.

Let's see, Obama wants amnesty, that's why the illegals get set free.

Obama hates business, so he fines and arrest the company managers and owners, bet they don't get off scott free like the illegals.

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In case people weren't paying attention, there were 72 bodies found in Mexico this week in northeast Mexico. The preliminary investigation indicates the victims were illegal immigrants from Honduras, El Salvador, Brazil and Ecuador.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/25/...ies/index.html

Now, the people sent to investigate this incident are missing themselves with conflicting reports of one or both of them already found dead.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/27...ico-disappear/

So how about securing our borders now? Violence is on our doorstep and our current administration would rather open the floodgates rather than nip this entire problem in the bud.

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Obama Inc won't do anything, but if they do anything at all, it won't be until after the November elections.

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Stray bullets from Mexico hit a college in El Paso. What's it going to take for our government to actually do something?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqL0cG-saCU&feature=player_embedded&hd=1

This guy makes me want to lol but he has some good points on the AZ bill near the end of the video. (around 2:30)

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are you suggesting we start a war with Mexico? all three statements you made happened in mexico? And its likely due to the drug war going on.
End the Demand for drugs and the drug lords will look elsewhere.

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There you go putting words in my mouth again. Starting a war with Mexico? Really, did you just say that?? :lol:

The incidents happened all near the border, and are clearly related to illegal immigration. Secure our borders and then drugs and illegal immigrants won't be able to come here. I don't see what is so hard to understand about that.

Did you even watch the video 1QUICK4 posted? Why don't you go comment on that with something worthwhile for once.

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Mexico is already at war against the drug cartels. If anything, America would join Mexico in that battle. I can't possibly see how you came to the conclusion that Matt wants to go to war against Mexico.

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Clearly related.... Just because they happened near the border doesnt mean its clearly related unless some hick decided to take border policy into his own hands. If it happened on our side of the border then you would have a point.
No i havent watched the video because im at work. I was putting together an assumption based on your words. You said we need to go in and end this, which would mean we would send troops in to mexico and run their country?.
And why dont you stop attacking users of this site as it is in violation of the policies of this site.

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Tom was too busy worshiping at the Alter of Obama to watch the video.

Was that tom I just saw running naked through the streets yelling, "The Obamanator is coming, the Obamanator is coming to save the day!!!"???

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Ummm, last time I checked, there was/is violence on our side of the border, or did you choose to forget that happens here?

Basically the video talks about the sign in Arizona that say "Stay the fuck away for your own safety, we, the Federal Government can't protect your asses or the border."