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mlomker 09-07-2010 10:21 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by simulatedwood (Post 356898)
Confimed NAV works great with the tactrix logging.

I think my NAV problem is more complex. It wasn't working tonight with it disconnected, either. I guess that one remains on the mysteries list.

cmspaz 09-07-2010 11:03 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 356869)
I'm going to put a Prosport fuel pressure gauge in that second pod.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...fuelpress2.jpg

Prosport FTW.

Speaking of, I still need to get mine installed.

mlomker 09-08-2010 09:55 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 356915)
I still need to get mine installed.

Fuel pressure or other gauges?

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I threw a couple CELs on the way to work. The 'front o2 slow' that I've seen plenty of lately and rear o2 'no activity'. I've been getting the latter since I had the car tuned. Shot Shane an email to see if the rear was disabled for some reason.

I may need to roll back to the old tune and AMS intake.

After seeing the gooey stuff on the end of my injectors last night, I'm wondering if my hard lines might be obstructed somehow. I don't suppose it'd cost too much to run new lines direct to the engine bay.

asshanson 09-08-2010 11:17 AM

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The gooey stuff is somewhat common for running e85. I ran for over a year once without checking them and one clogged it had so much junk on it. A minute or two in an ounce of gasoline clears it right up.

I'm guessing the rear o2 is disabled since it's only for emissions, but it shouldn't be throwing any rear o2 codes if that is the case.

Good luck figuring things out.

scheides 09-08-2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 356936)
I don't suppose it'd cost too much to run new lines direct to the engine bay.

Or just a bottle of fuel system cleaner? :)

asshanson 09-08-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 356942)
Or just a bottle of fuel system cleaner? :)

AKA a gallon of gasoline mixed in for a bit to flush out the junk.

mlomker 09-08-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 356942)
Or just a bottle of fuel system cleaner? :)

Wasn't sure if that was safe with E85. People also prattle on about E85 keeping everything nice and clean. Umm, no.

The Bosch is moving a lot less fuel than it should be. Running new lines would probably cost the same as two more hours of failed tuning. Of course it's shooting in the dark, like always.

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Originally Posted by asshanson (Post 356943)
AKA a gallon of gasoline mixed in for a bit to flush out the junk.

Pump gas mixed in with the E85? Does it have cleaning agents that E85 doesn't have?

mlomker 09-08-2010 12:23 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by asshanson (Post 356941)
I'm guessing the rear o2 is disabled since it's only for emissions, but it shouldn't be throwing any rear o2 codes if that is the case.

My understanding is that if you disable it and don't physically remove it then it'll get damaged (we didn't remove it). The X will also continue to throw codes unless you wire in a wideband like scheides has done.

asshanson 09-08-2010 12:39 PM

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Alcohol can't dissolve that gooey junk like gasoline does. Soak the tips in 1/2" gasoline in a little cup and the gas will turn black absorbing it all in a couple minutes. There was a big study on this on link awhile back, I can't remember if they determined the source of the black goo that the alcohol can't absorb or not.

Kracka 09-08-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 356949)
My understanding is that if you disable it and don't physically remove it then it'll get damaged (we didn't remove it). The X will also continue to throw codes unless you wire in a wideband like scheides has done.

Mine is disabled and removed from the car completely w/o a wideband and I get no codes.

mlomker 09-08-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 356953)
Mine is disabled and removed from the car completely w/o a wideband and I get no codes.

SSDD. Another unique issue for me.

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Originally Posted by asshanson (Post 356952)
Soak the tips in 1/2" gasoline in a little cup and the gas will turn black absorbing it all in a couple minutes.

I'll do that the next time they are out.

Shane@DBPerformance 09-08-2010 01:18 PM

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2010 vs 2008. Turning off rear O2 stuff is not as easy with the 2008s.

mlomker 09-08-2010 07:29 PM

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Shane theorized that my oil burning was fouling out the front o2 and causing my problem at cruise. He created a ROM for me that runs in open loop as a test. I went for a short drive and the car ran absolutely awesome. I'll see how it does on tomorrow's commute.

mdost03 09-08-2010 08:50 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 356996)
Shane theorized that my oil burning was fouling out the front o2 and causing my problem at cruise. He created a ROM for me that runs in open loop as a test. I went for a short drive and the car ran absolutely awesome. I'll see how it does on tomorrow's commute.

Awesome, glad you are getting somewhere finally. :woohoo1:

I think 311evo's car had some o2 sensor problems as well and Shane made a tune similar to your's that only ran it in Open Loop and it ran perfectly afterwards and even got better mileage than he was getting when he used the o2 sensors.

mlomker 09-08-2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by totaleclipse_05 (Post 357007)
that only ran it in Open Loop and it ran perfectly afterwards and even got better mileage than he was getting when he used the o2 sensors.

I didn't know that! Thanks for the info.

The important thing to me is that I've eliminated the custom Primo intake as being a problem. It's a huge plus when you can isolate something.

mlomker 09-10-2010 01:27 PM

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I've done a number of pulls in the last day to baseline the AFRs before isntalling the afpr and trying the BAP again over the weekened.

I must say, driving that car is like a drug. The only time the cams really lope is right after a hard run...for a few seconds it sounds like Matt D's car. God, I LOVE THAT.

Hope the car is running well for BIR on the 20th.

mlomker 09-10-2010 07:16 PM

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I received the Prosport fuel pressure gauge, DW1300 injectors, and Magnus master cylinder today. My goals for this weekend are to plumb in the afpr and wire in the gauge. The Magnus will permanently go on the shelf "just in case" and the injectors may be returned or resold pending my next visit to DB.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...10/goodies.jpg

mlomker 09-11-2010 12:54 AM

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Apparently I FAIL at putting connectors on -6an fuel line. It leaked and the line was too short by the time I found a technique to do it correctly. I ordered some more line so I'll give it another try on Monday night. :D

I got lucky and picked a setting that made my cruise AFRs perfect. If it weren't for the leak then I'd be thrilled. The setup was looking very nice other than that.

Rmondoh 09-11-2010 01:10 AM

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Glad to see that things are progressing nicely. :)

Kracka 09-12-2010 01:45 PM

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That Magnus clutch master cylinder is the best one on the market IMO. The SSP sounds like a total pile of junk...plus it's more expensive.

mlomker 09-15-2010 09:43 PM

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Finally finished the fuel pressure gauge install since my first attempt at the wiring (using a multi-conductor, solid-core wire) didn't pan out. The fuel line went fine last night and doesn't leak. It ended up a little tighter than I'd like but the afpr bracket flexes a little so hopefully it will survive...if not then I have a spare hose on-hand.

Looks like Friday morning's trip to factory MOD with the 3/S group is on. I'll take a lot of pics and shoot some video for you guys. :D

scheides 09-15-2010 10:06 PM

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Nice on the magnus CMC! Nice work on the on-the-shelf approach, hopefully you never need it!

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 357210)
I must say, driving that car is like a drug. The only time the cams really lope is right after a hard run...for a few seconds it sounds like Matt D's car. God, I LOVE THAT.

I can see the smile on your face from here :D Glad you're really starting to get some time to enjoy this thing!

mlomker 09-15-2010 10:23 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 357886)
Nice work on the on-the-shelf approach, hopefully you never need it!

That way you can call me if you need one? Yeah, having one around for the local X guys was a part of my reasoning.

Kracka 09-16-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 357881)
Looks like Friday morning's trip to factory MOD with the 3/S group is on. I'll take a lot of pics and shoot some video for you guys. :D

Have fun! You guys should all caravan down for the Dallas MOD next year (we're thinking April/May since people complained July was too hot this year).

mlomker 09-16-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 357930)
You guys should all caravan down for the Dallas MOD next year

Is it hard to drive an Evo in cowboy boots? I have a pair I haven't worn for years...

Did a couple pulls this morning and AFRs are 11.7 ... works for me.

Murlo26 09-16-2010 12:07 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 357959)
Is it hard to drive an Evo in cowboy boots? I have a pair I haven't worn for years...

Did a couple pulls this morning and AFRs are 11.7 ... works for me.

Does that mean your issues are solved, I can't even remember what your current fueling issues are, lol.

You need more shane time :) Haven't you racked up enough Shane Frequent flyer miles yet for a free one!?

Kracka 09-16-2010 12:10 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 357959)
Is it hard to drive an Evo in cowboy boots? I have a pair I haven't worn for years...

Not sure about an Evo, but Janelle's fine in her WRX with boots!

mlomker 09-16-2010 12:36 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 357960)
Haven't you racked up enough Shane Frequent flyer miles yet for a free one!?

Haha. The last issue was a fuel pressure drop in high rpms. It'd get to 70 and then drop to 50. I only care that the car looks safe...will be putting on a lot of miles and hitting the track over this 4-day weekend.

Next week I'm going to rewire the Bosch to run off the battery (instead of the stock fuel pump relay) and upgrade the wiring to the BAP. If the stock return line can handle the flow at idle then the setup will be ready to test again.

Kracka 09-16-2010 01:06 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 357960)
Haven't you racked up enough Shane Frequent flyer miles yet for a free one!?

DB needs a rewards card.

Murlo26 09-16-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 357967)
DB needs a rewards card.

I concur!

scheides 09-17-2010 12:13 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 357890)
That way you can call me if you need one? Yeah, having one around for the local X guys was a part of my reasoning.

Not gonna lie, it makes me feel slightly better knowing that there's one locally but extra good knowing that someone will be putting this through the paces. IDK though, I have nearly 3k on my act 6-puck now, no issues yet (knock knock).

mlomker 09-17-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 358060)
I have nearly 3k on my act 6-puck now, no issues yet (knock knock).

I'm nearing 5k. murlo picked it up last night so that part is out of stock at the Lomker warehouse. lol.

Murlo26 09-17-2010 09:32 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 358060)
Not gonna lie, it makes me feel slightly better knowing that there's one locally but extra good knowing that someone will be putting this through the paces. IDK though, I have nearly 3k on my act 6-puck now, no issues yet (knock knock).

I regret replacing my MC ever...so far it has been a money pit.

Kracka 09-17-2010 09:50 AM

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SSP CMC = FAIL (all 3 versions)

Murlo26 09-17-2010 10:04 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 358114)
SSP CMC = FAIL (all 3 versions)

I guess I can't really argue that..it looks pretty though :)

Thanks to Lomkerwarehouse, I have gone to the Magnus camp though. I will be restocking Lomker's shelves shortly too.

mlomker 09-21-2010 02:12 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
The car burned 1.25qts of oil yesterday at the track. I was hitting it harder than I ever have before, but that's not so great.

My plans for tonight are to wash the car (brake dust madness) and see if I have everything that I need for the BAP/pump rewire.

scheides 09-21-2010 02:25 PM

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Hey, at least you are mindful enough to keep an eye on the oil level! Just stay on top of it and it'll be no big deal.

A//// Guy 09-21-2010 02:57 PM

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Wow thats crazy..

mlomker 09-21-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 358531)
Wow thats crazy..

At least it has been predictable so far...it burns under boost and doesn't seem to lose any with regular driving. I'll have DB pull the turbo over the Winter and hope it's just an imperfect seal.

mlomker 09-22-2010 09:42 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Swapped the wiring for the two pumps tonight. I had a bizarre bit of luck, too. I had ordered a couple Bosch relays figuring that I might want to wire the in-tank pump to be at battery voltage and for $2 it's worth having a spare on hand. I went to start the car and nada. After a bit of troubleshooting I decided to swap a new relay in...started right up. I have NO idea what could have happened to it.


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