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Let's see, maf is 36% bigger so drop maf scaling by about that much, injectors are double, so 2x scaling + the new injector latency fix and use the supplied (?) latencies, then put in psi-boost hack w/ zero CF, fire up the car, cross fingers and go baby go!

Just kidding, it's a little more involved than that. I will be very interested to see how the psi-based boost control works out for ya on the street!

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That's so damn easy, why bother with Shane? :D

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Blasphemy! The man is filled with bad, bad ideas to make every car faster/better :)

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30-32...sigh...lomker you wuss.

Have I taught you nothing..you need at least 34 psi to make the torque of a 4g63, you don't want to look stupid do you :)

Ps. I am excited to see what this setup has in it finally...

After months of waiting we will know if the BBX has motor breaking potential in it :)

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What do you mean by PSI based boost control? That doesn't make sense to me as PSI = boost. Do you mean RPM boost control? Sorry I'm a newb I guess.

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I'm not an ECU geek, that's just what Tephra calls it. By default the X uses load targets and you can't actually tell it to hit a particular psi target. Every dyno you run the car on will hit a different peak boost because it loads the car differently.

The best analogy I've heard is that it will behave like an ECU-adjusted MBC afterward.

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...893#post522893

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^Once properly setup that's the idea! Load-based systems work, but they are error prone and thus inconsistent. The biggest saving grace on the X is that it has a low gear range and high gear range have separate base wasgtegate duty cycle (WGDC) tables, which in helps a LOT in the real world.

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Gotcha, now it makes more sense.

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English major? I don't know where you got 36% from.

1000cc * 2 != 2200cc. And nothing works right with the huge injectors as far as just doing simple scaling for the size.

Done. PSI base still isn't perfect since it's based on absolute pressure instead of gauge pressure, which most people talk about and absolute will change from day to day based on the barometric pressure, but that's fairly minor.

Well, back to work. The intake scaled fairly decent. Now on to switching the injectors and trying to get the 2200s to behave.

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Sweet, now you will have some MAF scalings for my car :)

Let us know how the injectors work out :)

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Dave's DW1300's are 1400 and my ID2000's are 2240. The injector companies take a horseshoe approach...

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Updates?? Are you at work still Lomker or at DB for the tune...if I get no answer I assume you are at DB :)

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My Dad helped me drop it off last night. I want to save my vacation days for car events.

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Fair enough, you picking it up later then I assume?

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If it is done today then I'll get it over lunch tomorrow. I want to install the APR splitter next weekend, otherwise I don't care much.

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My fueling problems continue. 20psi drop in pressure at 7k rpms. Shane is going to check the voltage to the Bosch and I suppose the inline fuel filter should be checked.

The Mitsu gods don't love me.

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Geez...why do they hate you so???? Did you anger them? Are you sure you aren't running out of pump, no idea how much that one is supposed to flow.

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If he is running out of pump with 3 fuel pumps total, then i would just say fuck it and reutrn to stock :KANE:

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If I wasn't so deep into this car it'd be getting parted out next week. I'll wait to hear from Shane about what voltages the pump was getting since that'll dictate where to go from here.

I may just have to live with this power level until next year. I could save over the Winter for a fuel cell and just take another step toward hard core.

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DO it.

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Have you replaced the stock black fuel pump relay with an updated blue one?

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He has the green one, at least he did, maybe he got the blue ones now like I did though :)

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One local down here had a green fail too.

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Only 1 of the pumps actually does anything motor fueling wise.

I swapped fuel pump relays around multiple times with no change.

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I had the green relays and then swapped them all for blue. Nothing is that simple for me.

Full Blown left the second in-tank pump in there but it doesn't need to be with this setup.

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obviously i dont know, but what about a 255 feeding a 044 inline or 255 inline?

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Pretty sure he has two 255's feeding one 044. Right?

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That's basically what I have. Dual 255's filling a surge tank and the motor being fed by the Bosch 044. The first 255 is always on, the second comes on under boost (Hobbs), and the Bosch runs off of the car's relay. The Bosch would over-run the stock fpr if it was run always-on.

Technically only one of the in-tanks should be needed to fill the surge tank but it was installed so I just left it there.

I don't have the funds to do very much right now. I have an afpr that needs a fitting or two for installation. I would be willing to try a BAP on the Bosch if that had any chance of helping.

The problem is that if the pump isn't getting fuel then making it run faster or doing the afpr won't fix it.

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Thats what I was just thinking

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DB discovered that my fuel filter was dirty. Holiday E85 ftw. I had gone from a gigantic UR filter that was noisy to the small Jegs/Russell inline filter that BlaqOPs provides. I should probably find a better middle ground.

Could I get that lucky? We'll find out later today.

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Sooo, updates, did it work?

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Shane hasn't worked his 14 hour day just yet. I did order a Golan fuel filter, tho.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...2010/golan.jpg
http://www.jayracing.com/index.php?m...roducts_id=263

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Jesus Christ.

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Nice Shane quote! lol.

I just started reading that WRX vs Evo book.

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Sooo, no word on the car I assume, try again tomorrow? :)

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I figure no news is bad news these days.

The irony is that fuel cells aren't all that expensive. For the money that I have into the Full Blown setup I could have had one and ditched the stock tank altogether.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a.../ATL171110.jpg
http://atlfuelcells.carshopinc.com/p...d/96189/171110

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Sweet! I just picked up the same one for my 1g

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Cleaning the fuel filter helped a little but not enough to matter. I guess the next round of shooting in the dark will be afpr, BAP, and a larger fuel filter.

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God, i hope i don't have these fueling issues, I don't think i will, but who knows.

Sucks man, i feel for ya.

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^Get in your own thread.