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Yep, was thinking Cletus on this one haha.

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Hahaha didnt see those posts.

Getting closer... hard balancing summer activities, other projects and also had to order parts here and there.

Got the oil cooler installed last night, along with the starter wiring I had trouble figuring out, since the car came with the starter removed.

Whats left? Thursday I plan to get the supercharger and intake in. Finally received a new AC tensioner. Had to order a revised one, as the old one wasnt adjustable and was grinding into a bracket slightly. Not much left after that... cooling system, fuel rail/injectors, power steering pump. Brakes and clutch need bleeding, then I need to drain the gas and prime the motor before I start it up.

We'll see how busy the weekend gets with 4th activities. I'm hoping I can fire it up within a few days, getting antsy.

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Looking good

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Very cool!

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woot!!

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Got quite a bit done the past few days but will have to continue next week. So close to firing it up, just too dang busy. Putting it back together is taking a lot longer than pulling it all off, to be expected though.

Whats left:
Finish heat wrapping some things - electrical and oil cooler lines
Bleed brakes and clutch
Trans and diff fluid flush
Connect plugs and coils
Drain fuel
Prime motor

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Very nice! She's getting really close! That's a nice intake manifold too.

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woot!! so close!

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Got the car done and on the dyno last week.

Still a few things to work out and fix but nothing too major.
-Speedo doesnt register- taking it to Chevy this week to diagnose
-Modify fender lining to have airflow for the oil cooler
-Wrap headers near oil cooler lines
-Eventually reroute one oil cooler line that is too close to the header

Car made 504whp and 488wtq. Talking to the builder and researching a few things on my end makes me realize why this motor is making less power than the previous. It used to make 5.5psi and around 580whp, now it tops out at 4 and goes down to 3.5 near redline. They didnt log boost on the graph but it makes 4psi right away.


This engine is the same size but I lowered compression from 11.5:1 to 9.5:1 and installed a different SC cam, which is more efficient than the old NA cam.

Notes below that I found, which were interesting and make sense. The engine is fresh as well and not fully broken in yet, so that could cause a little less pressure until the rings are fully seated.

"Improved engine efficiency (HP) means it flows more air. Highly efficient cams should, therefore, lower boost. Expect a 1psi drop from a large enough cam.

Compression ratio affects boost because a lower compression has more cylinder volume for the supercharger to fill. So boost is lower with low compression and greater with higher compression ratios."

More good info:
http://www.kennebell.net/KBWebsite/C...esAndCures.pdf

I plan to do a boost leak test just to be sure the BOV or intake isn't leaking. The way to increase boost is to bore out the restrictor plate in the intake, or remove it entirely, but I think 500whp is enough for now lol..

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Exhaust Clip:

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A lot of that makes sense, kinda like we were texting about. A setup that flows better wil flow the same amount of air, but with less resistance will end up being a lower pressure (psi).

The whole compression ratio thing, that really seems like such a tiny change that I wouldn't have imagined it would have done anything like dropping a whole psi. Doesn't seem like that much "bigger" of a chamber with lower compression pistons. The cam makes a lot of sense I think, but for some reason I was under the impression that your new supercharger cam was less aggressive than your NA one was. Also makes sense your motor is still new and fresh, might take a little bit to break in / wear in. All just speculation as I'm hardly an expert on any of this by any means, lol.

EIther way, as long as you aren't finding anything 'wrong' then hey that's all great news. Who cares if it makes a PSI less, and a few HP less (hell that could just be a difference in the dyno itself). That's a solid number, on a fairly light weight car. Enjoy that beast!!!

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Don't forget to put in the ducting by the intake to see if that helps direct air to your radiator cause you said it was running a tad warm.

Could just be LS motors run on the hotter side when not moving much air though?

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For sure Brandon, well see if i have any boost leak tests, but that compression ratio change is quite large in drop. Stock is around 10.5:1 I think on a stock 6.2 liter. This engine is a 7 liter.

Yea I tried putting that in last night but have to redrill the holes since i braced the radiator better and it moved it a little forward.

Also ordering the lower air dam peices that create vacuum under the engine to pulll hot air out. Previous owner must have scraped them off, they are made to be replaceable and scrape. Im also relocating the license plate as it blocks flow to the intercoooler and radiator. Removed that last night, wish I could just leave it off...

New motor probably runs a tad hotter because more friction, plus this oil is break in oil. But after some researching, 226 is fairly normal on a hot day.

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Time to bust out the Dawn water wetter :)

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I removed the lower air dam for Eric when he bought the car, his driveway was stupid steep and would have destroyed it within a month. He probably tossed it. That should help lower temps too (in addition to the upper air shield from ECS).

Regarding the boost, if it makes 4psi right away in lower rpm range, it shouldn't taper at all. Normally centrifugal blowers make more and more boost all the way to redline. The restrictor should reduce the boost creep and keep it flat, but I wouldn't imagine the boost actually drops. Boost leak or belt slipping are the two most likely candidates, or possibly the crank pulley slipping on the crank if they didn't pin it again.

Good luck figuring it out and the speedo thing.

Edit: That's a fatass torque curve. How is driveability at slow speeds on city streets with the SC cam? Surge/buck at all with really low throttle?

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Ordering some water wetter now haha, yea that should help a few degrees.

I talked to Chris at ESC and hes going to look over the dyno graph and see what he thinks might be going on. He did say boost of 4psi seems normal with a bigger motor and lower compression. If the belt was slipping or the crank, I wouldnt think the power graph would be so smooth, it would be jumpy and erratic but power just tapers after 6k.

Drives really nicely even at low rpm. Almost stalled it a couple times but it came right back. Clutch feels great, really grabby but smooth engagement. No bucking either, a little hesitation or something when cruising I noticed around 2k rpm. Motor is super noisy compared to what im used to.. lol parts and pushrods be tappin. Also its super rich under 4k rpm just by looking at the dyno graph.

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Maybe that's just the free tune, lol. Maybe next year you could head somewhere to get another tune with a little more attention to detail, and you can be present for it?

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Yea once I look everything over and make sure all is well, ill take it to CJtunes and have him get things double checked, possibly on the dyno, he does a lot of street tuning.

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If nothing is wrong and it's just how it is, would you think about running a smaller pulley?

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That's a sexy car, looks so much better than the new ones.

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Not sure if I would do that but possibly if all checks out next year, or I could have it tuned without the restrictor or get a different sized restrictor to open up boost a couple psi.

Got the front plate remounted and started working on the fender vents, will have to refine that later on with something sturdier than window screen.

Hopefully will drop it off to get the speedo checked out tomorrow.

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Before going the pulley down route, look into either removing the restrictor, or getting a different sized one, since that would free up some efficiency in the setup. The fact your boost is tapering off, with a centrifugal, tells me right away that you have too large of an intake restriction.

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Exactly what Im thinking too on such a large motor, that is probably why the SC doesnt make power to redline, if there are no boost leaks or belt slips. Still havent heard back from East Coast supercharging yet on their thoughts but ill update when I get more info! They did state that this supercharger should be able to support 1k hp, so not really sure if my theory is correct.

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I should probably update this. Getting a bit of spring fever coming on, since its already February!

Ended up detailing the car in the fall and made it to the last Cars and Coffee in October, looked a lot better than before.

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In late October I finally had CJ Tunes in St. Paul tune the car and dyno it on 93 pump with the restrictor removed It made 9PSI vs. 4PSI and a slipping belt when it was broken in on the dyno at DRM (504whp). CJ's tune was far superior, car ran like butter on the way home and he fixed various issues he found. Results from CJ: 715whp/669wtq. Amazing!

Unfortunately the alternator died while on the dyno and I ended up just limping it home after picking it up from him. Waited 2 weeks for a new alternator and it came damaged, so I had to reorder. By the time I received another one, it was the end of November and the car was in storage mode with the alternator removed.

Plans for spring:
Replace alternator and keep putting break in miles on it.
Replace the crappy invo rear tires with something a bit stickier.
Possibly get a front lip and side skirts
Detail it once again

Cant wait to start it back up again. It was a beast with 500whp... cant wait to feel the difference.

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WOW! Why the short pull 008? Just a power pull after it cooled down?

Powerband is flat, I bet it is a handful and a hoot to drive when you get to this spring!

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fuuuccccc that's some sick power.

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Nice! Good timing too, I'm watching a Novi supercharged C6ZO6 on Smoking Tire right now. I better go work on my car a bit before I start thinking about Vettes again. :D

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YeAaa! Just imagine maxing out that little Paxton on some good fuel... but I'm sure you'll have enough traction problems now even with drag radials haha. Very nice comeback for this vette!

Oh and das noble wants a race. Some day. You will guarantee take off after 100mph

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:pc::pc::pc::pc::pc::pc::pc::cheer::cheer:

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He ended up tuning on the dyno because he couldn't get the car to hook on street under 100mph. So he did a few pulls on the dyno, the #2 run was basically a baseline. Im not sure why he didnt make a full pull, and I really wish he logged boost and AF. Maybe I can contant MAP where he had it done and see if they saved the full logs.

I dont plan to do anything else, more than content with the outcome of this project haha. Just a couple visual mods and cruisin time!

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For some reason I didn't realize you had hit those numbers on pump. That's incredible man, very cool! Good spring plans too, not too overwhelming so you should be able to enjoy it!

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Sounds like Knoxville's experience with Carl on his G8. Had driveability issues and especially tranny nonsense but took it to Carl and got it straightened out and it drove awesome afterwards. Seems like Carl knows his shit on GM's.

Very nice results bud, looks like a beast!

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Should be a fun drive.

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That is an incredible amount of power on pump gas for a street car! Very impressive. That is going to be mean beast this spring when you get it out.

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Thanks guys! Carl also fixed the Speedometer which wasnt working after I got the car running. There was a wiring issue he traced from the ECM to the dash. Great guy to work with, very experienced and communicates really well.

Forgot about a couple other things I did. Ricer in me had to promote the new engine haha. It wont be getting any other stickers though.

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Also got a ProSport Boost gauge and vent pod installed. Fitment was pretty crappy so I had to file it down a lot before install. Looks good enough though.

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I really like the C6's gauge setup; exactly as a sports cars should be with all the essentials laid out nicely.

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I really like the layout as well, simple, clean and exactly what is needed! Stereo in this car could use some work but thats not a big deal haha.

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At least it has the optional navi already! Corvette stereos always have, and always will, suck. The Bose systems are just garbage in them which is odd because the Bose in the Volt is pretty decent. The Bose in the GTR is mediocre at best.

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Great numbers on pump gas. Get some sticky tires and put a hurting on some mustangs.

Why did you use the stroker crank?

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Yea the Bose in my Terrain sounds pretty good, same in my old audi. Bose are hit are miss for sure. I think they just slap a badge on and call it good lol.

Stroker motor came with the car because it used to be NA. I was hoping to salvage most of the old engine but the block was badly damaged and I didnt want to attempt to resleeve and fix it. I was looking at different cranks so I could stick with a 6.2 liter. That would have tacked on another grand to the motor build when the stroker crank ended up polishing out and being okay.

I still have to post up the old block, cam and clutch/flywheel on craigslist and get rid of that stuff. Anyone want it for a project? lol