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Perkul8r 05-05-2013 07:36 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Now I just gotta pay attention to everything you do lol.

LingLing 05-05-2013 08:28 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Perkul8r (Post 429401)
Now I just gotta pay attention to everything you do lol.

You might want to reconsider that. :lol:


I've decided to give the big F-you to my VF37 and go bigger right away. If I can afford it, I'll go FP Black (They call it the 82HTA for Subaru's for some reason). I'm also considering a few PTE units. The shortblock is begging to be built, and I'm already planning on GSC S2's. So, I feel it would be a waste of engine not to. Tentatively, I'm thinking 98mm 8.5:1 JE's, and possibly Manley T/T rods.

Decisions, decisions..

19TsiAwd90 05-05-2013 08:54 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
dont cheap out on rods, manley t/t's are good for just about anything you can throw at them and priced fairly well, and as for pistons i would do cp pistons, you mind as well go rotated turbo setup too =) there are better options for a fp black sized turbo if you go rotated, and it makes working on the car SOOOOOOO much easier!!
P.S. i'll just leave this right here =)
http://mnsubaru.com/threads/fs-ft-rotated-kit.42388/
i bet he would trade you with some cash on top

LingLing 05-05-2013 08:57 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 19TsiAwd90 (Post 429410)
dont cheap out on rods, manley t/t's are good for just about anything you can throw at them and priced fairly well, and as for pistons i would do cp pistons, you mind as well go rotated turbo setup too =) there are better options for a fp black sized turbo if you go rotated, and it makes working on the car SOOOOOOO much easier!!
P.S. i'll just leave this right here =)
http://mnsubaru.com/threads/fs-ft-rotated-kit.42388/
i bet he would trade you with some cash on top

I was thinking FP Black because I could run an OEM up-pipe and use my existing downpipe. But if I can work a good trade that rotated kit might be the way to go.

19TsiAwd90 05-05-2013 09:01 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
i sware it's like im helping build this car! =) we gonna race!

LingLing 05-05-2013 09:11 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 19TsiAwd90 (Post 429414)
i sware it's like im helping build this car! =) we gonna race!

I should have just bought your WRX before you parted it. lmao

Oh we definitely gonna race!

19TsiAwd90 05-05-2013 09:19 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
with going to a 6262, your gonna need a 6speed =) a 5speed wont hold that kinda power for long!

LingLing 05-05-2013 09:24 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 19TsiAwd90 (Post 429416)
with going to a 6262, your gonna need a 6speed =) a 5speed wont hold that kinda power for long!

Bah, I know. lol Too bad you sold your 6-speed swap already!

I'll probably just upgrade to an '08+ 5-Speed. Those seem to hold higher power better than the older ones.

4seasons69 05-06-2013 12:28 AM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Soooo I can get in on this race too right? ;-)

Looking good!

LingLing 05-06-2013 12:30 AM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4seasons69 (Post 429436)
Soooo I can get in on this race too right? ;-)

Looking good!

Yes, but I get a 5 car lead!

4seasons69 05-06-2013 12:34 AM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
With the tires that are on my car right now you probably won't need any car lengths lol

19TsiAwd90 05-11-2013 09:14 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
http://mnsubaru.com/threads/2004-sti-6-speed.42910/ hop on it!!!

LingLing 05-12-2013 11:33 AM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
You bastard!

If I had $3K sitting around I'd hop on it, dry hump it, and make it my bitch.

LingLing 05-12-2013 06:50 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
I got a little work done on the Slowbaru today. I got all of the interior wiring out of the WRX, and only have to pull the front harness with the headlight wiring out.

Yesterday I picked up my slightly larger turbo. It's a Turbo Lab 20g. It has no shaft play and has the wastegate flapper welded shut, so I can use the EWG up-pipe I'm getting from Ryan. It only has to get me through this season!
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...ning/TL20g.jpg

Today I went to pick some parts up from Phill @ Grimmspeed, and ended up buying a never used protoype Grimmspeed 3" catless downpipe. The only thing I will have to do is change the 2-bolt flange to a 3" v-band and take a few inch section out to get the length right.
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...Sdownpipe2.jpg
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...GSdownpipe.jpg
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...Sdownpipe3.jpg

I ALSO, got my hands on a true JDM Legacy rear window, which includes a rear wiper. Since I have wiring from a wagon, the steering column and controls are all ready for me to add it on. Evidently these are extremely rare and people pay upwards of $350 for them. It'll look like this.
http://jdmvip.com/jdmcarpictures/199...-Rims/rear.jpg

I'll have my heads back from the machine shop by next weekend and at that point will be able to get the motor back in the car. Ryan is holding the rest of my FMIC piping and will only have to switch BOV flanges for my Tial.

I ran in to a set of FiveO Motorsports 2000cc top feed injectors and will be sending them to Raven Works for cleaning and testing. I'm also almost done piecing together my top feed rails, -an fittings and braided hose, and will be picking up Grimmspeed 8mm phenolic intake manifold spacers as well. I'll probably get a DeatschWerks DW300 fuel pump to back everything up.

The last big purchase I have to make is my Accessport unit, but I think I've gotten the worst of it bought already! I'm getting antsy!

turbotalon1g 05-12-2013 08:19 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Sounds like it's getting close

LingLing 05-12-2013 08:38 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 429840)
Sounds like it's getting close

So close I can smell the burnt ethanol.

blageo23 05-12-2013 08:39 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Just an FYI I think there is a Walbro 255 in there. After the pump went out for the 2nd time Im pretty sure I swapped one in... Sad that I dont remember.
The car is looking really good! Cant wait to see it up and running again

blageo23 05-12-2013 08:41 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Also, last I talked to Shane he said a modded 255 flows more then a DW300.

Jason@DB 05-12-2013 08:42 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blageo23 (Post 429844)
Just an FYI I think there is a Walbro 255 in there. After the pump went out for the 2nd time Im pretty sure I swapped one in... Sad that I dont remember.

Well I'll be. I think I have a 255HP in the WRX too. Good to know either way I'll have a few spare 255's. lol

LingLing 05-12-2013 08:44 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blageo23 (Post 429846)
Also, last I talked to Shane he said a modded 255 flows more then a DW300.

This is true.

Well shit, since I have two 255's now, I'll definitely skip the DW300.

goodhart 05-12-2013 10:40 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Why the Accessport?

LingLing 05-12-2013 11:42 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 429857)
Why the Accessport?

I'll be going speed density and the AP's program is much better suited for this rather than RomRaider.

19TsiAwd90 05-14-2013 08:13 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LingLing (Post 429865)
I'll be going speed density and the AP's program is much better suited for this rather than RomRaider.

and it makes it easy to switch between pump tune and e85 tune without needing a laptop =)

goodhart 05-15-2013 01:11 AM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
I understand the speed density part, but the map switching part is the lamest excuse ever to blow 600 bucks on an AP when you can do it for like $6 yourself, or free by using the tps map switch.

LingLing 05-15-2013 07:37 AM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 430020)
I understand the speed density part, but the map switching part is the lamest excuse ever to blow 600 bucks on an AP when you can do it for like $6 yourself, or free by using the tps map switch.

Originally I was planning on using a merged Legacy harness, the stock WRX MAF and do an opensource tune. But now, since the car is running 100% WRX wiring I want to take advantage of the better EMS options.

Other than Opensource and AP there really aren't any other reasonably priced programs. Haltech Pro is right around $1,900 and I feel is WAY overkill. I'll have the ability to make all the power I want on the AP and for the price, I can't justify using anything else.

goodhart 05-15-2013 11:14 AM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Really no need to use anything else if you're using the WRX ECU. People have been making huge power for years using opensource.

LingLing 05-15-2013 12:05 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 430056)
Really no need to use anything else if you're using the WRX ECU. People have been making huge power for years using opensource.

This is true, BUT.

Shane has never done SD with opensource on a Subaru. And unlike AP, OS doesn't feature live data logging, which makes Shane's life harder (Remember, he is my boss). He is more familiar tuning SD with an Accessport, and since he'll be tuning my car it makes sense for me to run it.

4seasons69 05-15-2013 12:33 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
What??? You're not going to nuke&fuji for a tune!?!? Lol

Jason@DB 05-15-2013 12:49 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4seasons69 (Post 430060)
What??? You're not going to nuke&fuji for a tune!?!? Lol


:lol:

I've had people tell me to get tuned by them, even while wearing my DB shirt. It's like, uhhhh really guy? Look at what my shirt says.

4seasons69 05-15-2013 12:51 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Haha! Making good progress! It will be nice to see this thing up and running!

goodhart 05-15-2013 01:04 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Nuke is a good shit, but no reason to go anywhere than Shane since you work for him. haha

Jason@DB 05-15-2013 01:06 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4seasons69 (Post 430063)
Haha! Making good progress! It will be nice to see this thing up and running!

Thanks dude!

I'm REALLY getting the itch to finish this thing! Once I get my heads back at least I can get the engine assembled and all the engine wiring hooked up.

I found an amazing deal on a full WRX 5-Speed swap, but I should be able to get it all swapped over with a full day of work.

Shane@DBPerformance 05-15-2013 01:53 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LingLing (Post 430058)
This is true, BUT.

Shane has never done SD with opensource on a Subaru. And unlike AP, OS doesn't feature live data logging, which makes Shane's life harder (Remember, he is my boss). He is more familiar tuning SD with an Accessport, and since he'll be tuning my car it makes sense for me to run it.

I would tune yours with opensource on SD.

Most of our more modified Subaru customers have no trouble affording an Accessport and would rather have a quick and easy way to read codes and switch tunes instead of dealing with the opensource stuff. I prefer the Accessport since it offers realtime tuning and it's all contained in 1 program. When I tune opensource on the Subarus, I use 4-5 programs and every change requires turning the car off and doing a reflash, which can make SD tuning take a while. It's probably 50/50 for opensource versus Acessport tuning on the Subaru's I do, versus 95% opensource on the Evos. It's funny how few people use opensource on the DSMs. But DSMLink is very good and it's SD implementation is extremely good (better than any opensource and better than the SD on the AEM EMS), except it's VERY slow to update.

LingLing 05-26-2013 12:57 AM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Do you think there will be a difference in the quality of driveability between opensource and AP with the 2000cc injectors I'm planning on using?

LingLing 05-26-2013 01:22 AM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
This morning I picked up a WRX transmission, driveshaft, rear end and subframe assembly from Andy at Grimmspeed. I can now convert my clutch to hydraulic, make use of the entire WRX pedal box, and can use any clutch and short shifter for a 5-speed WRX.

http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...nsmission2.jpg

I'm unsure of what driveshaft I'll have to use, but I'll be dropping that tomorrow.


I haven't taken a look at the rear until now. It's not too bad, but the rust makes it look like shit. Once I get it taken apart, I'll go through, sand out as much rust as possible and paint it black.

I also plan to disassemble the WRX subframe, replace all the hardware, and clean up the rusty parts as well. [I want to get rid of those stupid plastic end links too.]

http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...ySubframe1.jpg

http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...ySubframe2.jpg


Decided to get the front mount installed as well. The existing bumper beam holes almost lined up. I could have probably made it work, but one of the bolts would have been crooked. Wasn't really feeling that.

Before
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...g/NoBumper.jpg

Holes drilled, checked for alignment.
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...MICBracket.jpg

Installed with fresh hardware
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...ICBracket2.jpg

Done!
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...Installed1.jpg

Here's a shot from inside the engine bay.
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...Installed2.jpg

Lines up nicely with the bumper cover support
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...Installed4.jpg

And one more.
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...Installed3.jpg
I'm really happy how it turned out. I should have plenty of clearance for piping, and I got it pretty much dead center without having to modify the intercooler bracket at all.

LingLing 05-26-2013 12:37 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Bumper trimmed and half installed

http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/.../NewFront1.jpg

19TsiAwd90 05-26-2013 01:40 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
the clutch i sold you will not work with a wrx trans. wrx tranny's use pull type clutch just a heads up incase you were still planning on using it

LingLing 05-26-2013 02:11 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 19TsiAwd90 (Post 430721)
the clutch i sold you will not work with a wrx trans. wrx tranny's use pull type clutch just a heads up incase you were still planning on using it

I'll be getting a new clutch for it. I do have a few good used ones, but they won't hold since they're the "Stage 0" Exedy's.

19TsiAwd90 05-26-2013 02:20 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
you would be surprised i ran that forster tranny and the clutch i sold you for a while on my 20g with corn

LingLing 05-26-2013 02:26 PM

Re: Project Slowbaru
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 19TsiAwd90 (Post 430723)
you would be surprised i ran that forster tranny and the clutch i sold you for a while on my 20g with corn

Not bad!

I'll probably just do a sprung 4 or 6 puck.


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