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CornFed2.4 11-27-2012 08:44 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
I know the ets coolers are nice. But for the money and your plans of running on E85 the Map kit or vrsf FMIC are more than capable of getting to 500hp, for around a 1/3 of the price delivered to your door.

Also, halon is right don't touch the fuel lines unless you have to. They are not a restriction at 500hp.

Yiddie 11-28-2012 11:39 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
I talked to Shane. He's having doubts that it'll hit 500whp with that setup.
Could be looking from 450-550whp, Might be able to hit 550 but that's with E98. He also is the one who suggested the new FIC 1600's By the way.

The new FP Red or PTE 5858DBB?

turbotalon1g 11-29-2012 08:21 AM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
5858 should do 500@DB with the mods you listed.

Yiddie 12-03-2012 05:24 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
What do you guys think of the 6262DBB using the mitsu housing with a fp mani?

Also what do you all recommend for head parts? Using a 2G head
GSC S2 cams?
GSC beehive valve springs w/ Titanium retainer?
Ferrea Copper Alloy exhaust valve guides?
Valves?
Lifters?
Hydraulic adjusters?

Also if I'm gonna go to dsmlink w/sd what IAT, MAP sensor should I go with, GM? AEM? Omni?...

Thanks,

Halon 12-03-2012 05:46 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
I think you'd love a 5858 in a mitsu housing personally.

Head, I personally would keep it simple and affordable.
2G head, leave the head casting stock, or have them just clean up the casting in the ports a little, don't go too crazy.
Springs I'd just stick with a set of Crower springs/retainers as they are cheap and will allow you to rev to 8k as long as you don't run too ridiculous of cams. Cams, I'd think you'd be able to find a set of used HKS 272's for cheap. Proven since the early ages, and very affordable. Stock valves, 3g hla's, and you have yourself a pretty decent head setup on teh cheap.

turbotalon1g 12-03-2012 05:58 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
6262 or bust.

Yiddie 12-05-2012 03:25 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Any opinions with a t3 cast manifold?

goodhart 12-05-2012 11:18 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Turbonetics style or ERL is about all there is.

Yiddie 12-06-2012 10:56 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Just curious if you guys had experience using a t3 adapter plate on a mitsu housing? Or heard good or bad with them?

goodhart 12-06-2012 11:07 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
I had one on my old Hahn 16g setup. Worked ok I guess.

Yiddie 12-11-2012 12:11 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
I'm just gonna get everything else figured out and bought and worry about the turbo setup later lol

What do you all recommend for 2G Head parts? All I have is a core.
I was thinking GSC S2 Cams and GSC beehive valve springs w/ Titanium retainer, No Used parts, All new.. And I'll probably end up getting 9.5:1 Wiseco HD, Since I'll be running e85.

Thanks,

Halon 12-11-2012 12:41 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yiddie (Post 419753)
What do you all recommend for 2G Head parts? All I have is a core.
I was thinking GSC S2 Cams and GSC beehive valve springs w/ Titanium retainer, No Used parts, All new..



Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 419447)
Head, I personally would keep it simple and affordable.
2G head, leave the head casting stock, or have them just clean up the casting in the ports a little, don't go too crazy.
Springs I'd just stick with a set of Crower springs/retainers as they are cheap and will allow you to rev to 8k as long as you don't run too ridiculous of cams. Cams, I'd think you'd be able to find a set of used HKS 272's for cheap. Proven since the early ages, and very affordable. Stock valves, 3g hla's, and you have yourself a pretty decent head setup on teh cheap.


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Yiddie 12-11-2012 01:56 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Yeah that's your suggestion.. Just curious on what others thought also, Not saying yours is bad at any means.

95talonracer 12-11-2012 02:24 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Have you ever driven anything with power? Maybe you should pick a realistic goal and get used to that first. Let me guess, you are going to run a stock tranny too? There is plenty of build threads and reviews that you can use google to find your answers.

Yiddie 12-11-2012 05:04 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Whats your F***ing problem. N yeah I have driven a car with power before.

I've actually been doing a lot of research online, And no it won't be a stock Tranny.. Just like to hear what locals have to say.

If you don't have nothing good to say, Don't say anything at all n Gtfo this thread... Just saying

I'm spending a lot money n asking for suggestions on my build..

95talonracer 12-11-2012 05:27 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
You seem to not take in any suggestions and pretty much all of this stuff has been talked about over and over again and a quick search will land you some very good information. Another good way is to look back on some peoples project threads. This will give you their build and what they got out of it for results in most cases.

Halon 12-11-2012 06:10 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Just being real here, I think people get annoyed that you're asking for advice yet at times being very generic. And when advice is given, it seems like you don't want to hear it and just do whatever you want to do, or just say never mind I'll figure it out later after 90 posts of people trying to help. Which yeah it's fine, do what you want to do. But don't ask for advice then, and don't get mad when people get annoyed with it.

95talonracer built a car similar to what I think you're trying to build years ago, with an FP mani and bolt on turbo.

Alpha D 12-11-2012 06:35 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
I dont even understand why people ...keep posting after the first or second never mind blah bleh blah ill figure it out...if you were why'd you post about it...which reminds me i should update my build thread...and to stay on topic good luck with your build set a dead line to it helps put life in perspective....id shoot for BIR Proving grounds :)

tmosser 12-11-2012 07:14 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yiddie (Post 419773)
Whats your F***ing problem. N yeah I have driven a car with power before.

I've actually been doing a lot of research online, And no it won't be a stock Tranny.. Just like to hear what locals have to say.

If you don't have nothing good to say, Don't say anything at all n Gtfo this thread... Just saying

I'm spending a lot money n asking for suggestions on my build..

Someones butthurt.

goodhart 12-11-2012 09:33 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
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Yiddie 12-11-2012 10:34 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Oh I have been taking what you all been giving for advice.. And it's helped a lot actually.. And I've been trying to figure it all out, Some of you are saying things that others say are pointless and also the other way around.

So stop thinking that I'm just saying yeah oh whatever never mind bullshit.. Cause I'm not. Just trying to figure things out.. So stop bashing on somebody new to all this shit and is trying to piece together a build. Some questions may seem similar, It's just because I'm hearing others say good n bad about it. You guys ain't the ones putting a lot of money into this build, So yeah I'm gonna ask questions and make damn sure it's perfect.

Alpha D 12-11-2012 11:02 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Man I Call Troll! lol jk man dude i say keep up the project and prove everyone WRONG!

1999Gst 12-12-2012 12:58 AM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 419781)


HAHA :score007:

Yiddie 12-31-2012 03:25 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Update on engine build:
Pistons: Custom Wiseco 1400HD 9.5:1
Connecting Rods: MAP Ultimate Duty Billet Steel; 7/16" ARP2000 Series Fasteners, 22MM Wrist Pins.
85.5MM bore
Side Skirt Coating
ACL Race Series
ACL Race Series Mains
OEM 6 Bolt 2.0 Crankshaft
Kiggly Racing 6 Bolt Main Girdle
ARP Main Studs
Balance Shaft Elimination
OEM Oil Pump Driven Gear
OEM Oil Pump Drive Gear
OEM Oil Pump Front Case

GsXtUrBo98 12-31-2012 08:04 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Sounds like an expensive short block

Yiddie 01-02-2013 05:10 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Finally got the head build done w00t w00t!
GSC S2 Camshafts (274/274)
GSC Single Beehive Valve Springs with Titanium Retainers
Kiggly HLA Pressure Regulator
MAP Stage 1 Cylinder Head Preparation
Valves: MAP High Performance Black Nitrided Standard
Valve Seals: Supertech
Valve Guides: Ferrea Guides
Revised Lifters

Halon 01-02-2013 05:42 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Nice motor and head setup, but holy geebus $$$$$ !!!

C3L1CA 01-02-2013 05:53 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Holy balls, map sold you a ton of stuff you didn't need to hit your goal but you got some baller ass parts!

goodhart 01-02-2013 09:07 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
14b + 300 shot of nawwwz

Sparky2211 01-02-2013 09:43 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
I make just over 600awhp on MAPs dyno with a stock flanged turbo and I am more than content. I wouldn't hesitate to drive the car daily if I wanted. Good luck with your build. Sounds like you want some massive power on that thing.

Yiddie 01-03-2013 02:03 AM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
I know I went overkill lol but reason I did that is because I'll probably never have to worry about the engine again nor pull it out, I can put it in and leave it alone and then be able to just add to it.

URV8SUX 01-03-2013 09:18 AM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yiddie (Post 420638)
I know I went overkill lol but reason I did that is because I'll probably never have to worry about the engine again nor pull it out, I can put it in and leave it alone and then be able to just add to it.

You know it a DSM right?

Lots of spendy parts are you street diving this or mostly racing it?

Yiddie 01-03-2013 10:06 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Mostly street but it'll see many events also.

turbotalon1g 01-04-2013 08:17 AM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
oh snap street racerer!!!

URV8SUX 01-05-2013 08:48 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Awww shit STREET RACER!!!!!

Wouldn't 11.0:1 with a 58mm and E85 make your goal and have a big powerband for your street racing?

turbotalon1g 01-05-2013 09:05 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
even 9.0:1 would work, i know its enough to take down a low 10 sec transam and thats without good cams or SMIM.

Yiddie 01-06-2013 02:16 AM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Oh what a dick! lol:bengals:

Yiddie 01-23-2013 10:51 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Update on build..
Shortblock n head currently still being assembled

List of parts I'm planning on getting soon, Any suggestions would be great.

Mishimoto Radiator
Mishimoto Fan Shroud
JM Fab Race Intake
Fidanza Adjustable Cam Gears
FuelLab 828Series In-Line Filter
Aeromotive AFPR Or MAP AFPR Kit
Tial Bov.. Which one I'm not sure yet

I might be stuck using my 16G for a few months with this current setup.. Sadly, But doubt I'll be able to afford a new turbo setup after all this right away, Which if so I'll probably wait to setup SD as well.. I bought dsmlink v3 couple weeks ago also.

Would a 2g fuel rail work for a 1g head? If not I'll probably just buy an aftermarket one.

goodhart 01-23-2013 11:18 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Pretty sure the fuel rails are all compatible. If not a 1g one is like $10. No reason to buy an aftermarket one, the stockers are good for buttloads of power.

Nothing wrong with sticking with the 16g a little longer, the last 5 years turbos have been like cell phones, a new flavor every other month and if it's 6 months old its outdated. See what the new technology is once you can afford it and go with that.

Yiddie 02-05-2013 03:03 PM

Re: My New 98 gsx build
 
Update on build:

MAP AFPR Installation Kit
Fuelab 515 Series Fuel Pressure Regulator
Mishimoto Radiator
Mishimoto Fan Shroud Kit
JM Fab Race intake manifold
1G n/t TB
TiAL Bov
Fidanza Cam Gear
Prothane Motor Mount Inserts

Pretty much got everything bought now for the GSX, besides some maintenance items. realizing how close I am, I'm getting real excited. This is huge for me, I'm gonna be speechless when it's all installed and ready to go, That first start up and hearing it idle.. Probably gonna bring tears to my eyes and that first cruise will be the happiest moment of my life...


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