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scheides 12-23-2010 02:14 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
You'll do fine with either, but if I had a choice I'd just go with the Centrics. Call/email MAP for best pricing and def get the coating. I had the rotorpros on my evo8 and they were dandy, but for (what should be) only a few bucks more the centrics are the bomb-diggity.

simulatedwood 12-23-2010 02:16 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
I shopped around for some rotors a couple months ago, give these guys a try: http://www.frozenrotors.com.

People say the cryo treating does nothing, but so far these rotors have worn outstandingly well. I think they can also get you prices on non-cyro rotors as well, brembo blanks or whatever. I did quiz them a bit about the centrics, they said that they have tried them on some vettes with mixed results, they instead recommended using a premium NAPA rotor or a brembo blank instead if going to go for oem replacements for track duty as they seem to hold up to prolonged heat cycling better without warping.

Give em a call, these guys are local, have a tons of track experience, good prices, and great customer service.

t-revzr 12-23-2010 02:22 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Rotorpros sell centrics. You can buy straight from rotorpros and ask for the centrics. I was going to do that but ended up selling me car. They will have the best price.

goodhart 12-23-2010 02:29 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
The Frozen Rotors are $272 for the blanks, I guess I understand the reasoning and all, but meh. It's not like my brakes see a really hard life anyways, so I'm not overly concerned with prolonged heat cycling and all that. I can get those Centric's for $30 less or whatever, then spend that on the blingin coating so they don't rust. I just think the rust looks like poo, I'm not woried about the wheels getting stuck on or anything. From the reveiws I have read, the Centrics do seem to hold up much better than the OEM Brembo blanks.

Trevor, that thread I posted was all about the Rotorpros/Centric discussion. They are no longer the same. For a while they even had the same part #'s and all, but they switched to the C-Tek or whatever, and used the 121 PN#, and then apparently changed it back to #120? IDK, that thread was a mess. lol

Kracka 12-23-2010 04:12 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 369393)
Huh? MAP Doesn't even have Centrics on their site? Though I did see them on tirerack for a great price! hmmm....

Good to hear. I would think the coating would be mainly for keeping rust off of them.

I bought my set through MAP.

The coating is to just keep them looking nice.

goodhart 01-06-2011 02:06 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
So last night I attempted to put in my walbro 255 HP I got last month from MAP. I went to the garage with my tools, got the pump assembly out. (After getting that bitch black ring thing that sits on top)

And brought it upstairs to the apartment for disassembly, popped the old pump out.....just to find out my car already had a Walbro 255Hp :lol:

So, put it all back together, test drove it and all is good now. I took some pictures along the way also.

p.s. Anyone need a Walbro 255HP for an Evo/2g?


Seat and cover off:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5050/...5b3618f3_z.jpg


Ring is bigger than the hole:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5202/...d9372283_z.jpg

Bitch ring:
(found out the trick here is to take out the ring and the pump assembly together)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5002/...6bb19c1c_z.jpg

Assembly out:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5001/...f50ec9c9_z.jpg


Took the pump out......wait a second...does that say wal....its the same one!!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5201/...770ef90d_z.jpg


Then when I was done putting it all back it, I made sure to etch a small "B" on the side of the ring that faces the back, since it can only have one orientation. If you get it wrong, it can be kind of time consuming to squirm it back around so it faces the right direction while also dealing with the 3 rubber hoses and electrical connector that all go to the pump assembly.


Should also note, after unplugging the electrical plug on top of the pump assembly, it wouldn't be a bad idea to start the car and ruin it till it dies MORE THAN ONCE, I followed the directions from EvoM and only did it once. This still resulted in a good amount of gas being spilled while unhooking the high pressure line.

turbotalon1g 01-06-2011 03:22 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Awesome!!! and I bet you could change the pump next time if needed in about 1/2 the time!

Do u guys need to do a fuel pump rewire or is that a last resort to get everything out of a pretty maxed pump?

Murlo26 01-06-2011 03:23 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
The Evo's all come with the "rewire" that DSM's needed I believe.

DoughtCom 01-06-2011 03:27 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Haha I remember when scheides installed my pump in like 10 minutes when I needed my tune, that was so awesome.

goodhart 01-06-2011 03:29 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Yeah, probably took me right around 45 minutes or so to take it out/put it back in. That stupid ring took probably 20 minutes taking it out. Putting it all back in took maybe 5 minutes.

Shane@DBPerformance 01-06-2011 03:33 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
A rewire can help a little but, they do have some voltage drop to the pump, but it's not as bad as a DSM or Civic. It's a bit more complicated to do on an Evo though because they run a dual voltage system to the pump. The dual voltage system actually works well with a KB boost-a-pump, it all still works correctly and you end up with a triple voltage system.

goodhart 02-22-2011 08:35 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Got the correct sensor for my boost gauge from AEM last week, so I finally have a working boost gauge. Also got rid of the electronic boost controller for a good old MBC.

I think we found out why my wipers weren't working:
Jungy fixed that for me last night. Thanks again dude!!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5057/...4e807644_z.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5017/...ba876c00_z.jpg

scheides 02-22-2011 08:56 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
GAAAAAAHHHHH!!!! This is my sad face :( :( :( :( :(

Did you end up cleaning it out or just cutting it out/re-wiring??

goodhart 02-22-2011 09:01 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Cut out and rewire. At least my shit works again though!!

Jungy 02-24-2011 07:51 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
No problem man. That shit was so badly corroded. The connector was a PITA to get apart because of the short the connectors were melted together. Cut the connectors out and soldered all the wires back together.

goodhart 03-16-2011 02:08 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Time for a little update. Since my no season tires that came on the car were worn down so badly, I decided to put the summer wheels on a little earlier than I had expected/wanted. Oh well, some tread on summer tires has got to be better than bald ass all seasons right? I also have to get some of my parts installed that I have been waiting to put on, this senior thesis has just been kicking my ass though. :(

Here are the pics, I hadn't had a chance to wash her up yet so the white residue is still on the tires from mounting.

17x8 RPF1's with Hankook Ventus V12 Evo K110 tires, I think they will do dandy for daily driving this summer with maybe a couple track days somewhere if time/money permits :D

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5095/...4b03c6b6_z.jpg

New lugs and faded/flaking brembos (Gorilla neo-chrome/Prizm):
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5096/...f80a6936_z.jpg

turbotalon1g 03-16-2011 03:11 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Yum.

goodhart 03-18-2011 02:44 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Getting an alignment with Jeff the Alignment Guy next Tuesday. Also scheduled a tune with Shane just now for April 22nd. That will give me time to install a few of the parts I have waiting:

• Coated Megan O2 housing
• Nisei lower intercooler pipe
• Jack_Of_Trades alternate map switch for ECU map switching (So I can run 92 and E85 by the flip of a switch)
• Buschur TB Shaft seals (I think he just goes through MIL.SPEC???)
• Torque Solutions driveshaft bushings
• Synapse Synchronic recirculating BOV
• BLOX front motor mount


I'd still like some rear diff bushings and a new shift knob, and replace all the drivetrain fluids soon too, other than that I plan on leaving the car alone for the summer.

goodhart 03-23-2011 07:14 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Got my alignment yesterday, all went well.

Final specs are:
Front: -1.5, 0 Toe
Rear: -1.0, 0 Toe
Brought Jeff a Mt. Dew and a bearclaw and he talked my ear off all morning. :D Nice guy.



Then also yesterday, my Tactrix 2.0 cable showed up. Came with all the connectors and even the Subaru plugs for $130 shipped. $200 worth of shit and it's been used twice :D Standalone logging? yus plz.

scheides 03-23-2011 07:50 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 377676)
Standalone logging? yus plz.

Pretty sure that only works on CAN-BUS cars, sorry dude :( I'd love to give it a try though!

goodhart 03-23-2011 07:56 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
I was just reading something on EvoM the other day about being able to do it on the CT9A, let me see if I can find it.

goodhart 03-23-2011 08:01 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Booyah.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/ecuflas...ogcfg-txt.html

scheides 03-23-2011 08:03 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Badass! Give it a try!

goodhart 03-23-2011 08:05 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Yea, I'll be working on that and the 47638739 other things I have to do haha. Gonna focus on installing my parts for now, once I get a good place and time to work up here. Now with the snow, I may try this logging sooner rather than later if Troy has time to fart around with it. I still don't have my laptop back. grr.

goodhart 03-23-2011 10:52 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Looked a little further into this. Looks like I will have to the following to do standalone logging on the 8/9:

• Install the "Mode23" that you X guys use for logging??
• Download the Beta ECUFlash 1.43.3150,
• Format my micro SD card as FAT16 or FAT 32
• Install the logcfg.txt file onto micro SD card.

I *think* that should make everything work, still waiting for some of my questions to be answered on EvoM by guys who claim they have this working already. If I can figure it out, I'll try to write a how-to for it. This code stuff is waaay out of my realm though, so it may take a little while.

Some links for future use:

Beta ECUFlash:

http://www.tactrix.com/index.php?opt...d=44&Itemid=65

Mode23 installation for X:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-e...lustrated.html
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22140

Like I said, still waiting for some questions to be answered, so I'll have to wait and see if the same Mode23 code will work for 8/9's.

goodhart 03-25-2011 10:21 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
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Ok, I've been talking to tephra and Aaron at English Racing as well as a few others. It sounds like a few guys have this working, and a few guys have it working, but with issues. Here is what I have learned in the past day.

• "Mode23" is not needed/does not exist for the CT9A (Evo 8/9)


What you do need is the following:
• Tactrix 2.0 openport
• SD card inserted into said 2.0 openport
• Have SD card already formatted as FAT16 or FAT 32
• Install the logcfg.txt file into root directory of micro SD card. (attached to this post)
• If you want to lof AFR's, follow this how-to


It sounds as if this is working flawlessly on at least one car that I know of. He has confirmed it is working on the 88580714 and 88840016 roms so far. I am not sure how or if it will work on the 88590015 rom that I currently have with Tephra v5.10 installed.

The thing that really makes this tougher is that the guys who are using this are all from either Europe or Australia so far it seems.

goodhart 03-26-2011 11:37 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Got the O2 housing, driveshaft bushings, Nisei LICP, and Synapse BOV installed tonight. Also relocated the MBC.

Only took a few cell pics quick

Had to trim about 1" off the recirc tube:
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...0_150852_n.jpg

Think this will flow a lil better? haha Injen on top, Nisei on bottom
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._1533587_n.jpg

Kracka 03-26-2011 11:41 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
HAHA Injen = crap!

goodhart 03-26-2011 11:49 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
haha yea. now I just need to get rid of the UICP and intake! I'll save that for later this summer or fall though, it works fine for now. I was just really sick of the LICP popping off. The drive shaft bushings made a very noticeable difference during shifting. Feels soooo much more solid. Now for some rear diff bushings. :D I'll look into getting some of those once I sell the Injen LICP, should be able to break even or even make a few bucks there.

bramagedained 03-27-2011 12:02 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
rpf1's... do want.

I really should change my front motor mount too after watching how much it moved when getting dyno'd.

LingLing 03-27-2011 12:09 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Very nice Mike! You're definitely taking the smart route with your modifications. Can't wait to see this thing rip this year!

scheides 03-27-2011 12:23 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Sweet man! Did you yank the radiator or the turbine housing? Just curious which route you ended up taking :D

goodhart 03-27-2011 11:51 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
haha, neither. I was going to do the turbine housing route, but the clamp that holds the turbo together was in THE WRONG position to be able to do that (nut on clamp was facing the block). Didn't have any coolant and it was getting late to make a run to the store, so I just did the knuckle busting method and took it out the bottom. Thank god I had a lift to work on it, Dan with the Blue mk3 Supra let me use his shop to do the work which was kick ass. He's a really cool old guy

turbotalon1g 03-27-2011 12:06 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Nice, lift FTW!

scheides 03-27-2011 03:20 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Wow. Even with a lift I don't know how its possible, so mad props goodhart!

goodhart 03-27-2011 03:50 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Well, the heat shields stayed off, the only one still on is the manifold heat shield. I unplugged the front o2 sensor from on top of the valve cover, then took that out on the bench. I just trimmed some of the heat shield off where there is just a hole for the o2 sensor and made it a notch so if I ever do put the shield back on I don't have to remove the o2.

The o2 sensor was an absolute twat to get out also. Used a TON of PB blaster, heat, etc and it still did not want to come out. The vice I had it in was welded to the table it was on and I actually broke the welds before the o2 came out! Got the vice clamped back down, got 2 people to hold onto it while another cranked and it finally came out. I actually had to un-pin the connector on it so we could slide a box end wrench over the wire to get on there, the o2 socket I was using was looking like it was going to break. So other than the hour spent on that, it went decently smooth :)

cmspaz 03-27-2011 11:38 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
LOL, ask Scheides or Rosey about getting the sensor out of the housing on my old Talon... We ended up giving up.

Matt D. 03-28-2011 12:34 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
I think I'm the only one around here who had the O2 sensor come out of the stock housing with very little effort.

goodhart 03-28-2011 07:45 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Yea, there was a short while where I wanted to give up, then the $376.70 price of a new front o2 sensor crossed my mind O_o

LingLing 03-28-2011 07:46 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 378320)
Yea, there was a short while where I wanted to give up, then the $376.70 price of a new front o2 sensor crossed my mind O_o

The cost of replacing parts is always a good motivator. lol


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