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311evo 05-08-2008 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!! (Post 240228)
To be fair didnt i read that you dyno'd in fwd and not awd?

Yeah he only did FWD

dark_vr4 05-08-2008 09:53 AM

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maybe i should've came

Kracka 05-08-2008 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dark_vr4 (Post 240236)
maybe i should've came

Everyone should come because its always a great time!

mdost03 05-12-2008 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 240237)
Everyone should come because its always a great time!

X2. I didn't think I was going to go until about 2 weeks before when I said screw it and took off work for the day.

scheides 05-14-2008 10:46 AM

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Nothing wrong with just showing up the day of, either! We had several walk-ups that got on the dyno!

Swifty1638 05-14-2008 12:55 PM

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um....using a SAFC as a display? that would classify as rice in my book..there's many other things you could spend your money on for display purposes that would give you that kinda info..sell the safc if you won't even ever use it. Put the money to good use.

As for the sidemount issue..try going with a supra sidemount.they are slightly thicker and bigger. Also, ducting some air straight into the sidemount will allow for the air to be a bit cooler..I've even seen a few people but a 4-6" fan on the sidemounts to pull air through them..not sure if it really helps, but i don't see how it could hurt it.

-A. Swift

scheides 05-14-2008 02:22 PM

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Swifty, you talk like you were there with a running car putting down top numbers! Where is the love man! :D

jrohner 05-15-2008 02:40 PM

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Put the money to good use.
Um...have you seen my car? Did you see the other cars there? Pretty sure a 98 GSX with like $5000 in it beating those cars is putting money to good use. The only reason I even have that much in the car is cause a bearing went out in the tranny and destroyed it a couple years ago. I have yet to even put cams in the car.

I don't think I wasted money.

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um....using a SAFC as a display? that would classify as rice in my book..there's many other things you could spend your money on for display purposes that would give you that kinda info..sell the safc if you won't even ever use it.
I guess I haven't seen a display that shows a bunch of stuff like an AFC does for cheap -- tach recall, etc and even knock. Plus I already have the AFC cause I used it to tune at first -- If you know of something better that I can come out ahead on money wise after selling the AFC let me know.

jrohner 05-15-2008 02:43 PM

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As for the sidemount issue..try going with a supra sidemount.they are slightly thicker and bigger. Also, ducting some air straight into the sidemount will allow for the air to be a bit cooler..I've even seen a few people but a 4-6" fan on the sidemounts to pull air through them..not sure if it really helps, but i don't see how it could hurt it.
I never said the sidemount was an issue. I'm keeping it. I never have had a problem with it even when it's hot out. Actually I ran most of the summer a couple years ago with no intercooler at all (just to see how it worked) at 20PSI with 95 degree temperatures outside with no problems.

Kracka 05-15-2008 02:56 PM

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Swifty just got owned.

Halon 05-15-2008 02:57 PM

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The knock display on your SAFC is about useless.

scheides 05-15-2008 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jrohner (Post 241037)
I never said the sidemount was an issue. I'm keeping it. I never have had a problem with it even when it's hot out. Actually I ran most of the summer a couple years ago with no intercooler at all (just to see how it worked) at 20PSI with 95 degree temperatures outside with no problems.

Didn't have a problem or didn't know how bad your intake temps actually got :D

jrohner 05-15-2008 03:15 PM

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Didn't have a problem or didn't know how bad your intake temps actually got :D
Didn't knock, but yeah you couldn't even touch the piping from the turbo to the TB. No knock is no knock and nothing ever happened to my engine. E85 is awesome.

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The knock display on your SAFC is about useless.
I know that the actual number shown doesn't correlate to anything, but from what I've seen if the number doesn't go up more when going higher on timing, leaner AFR, more boost, or higher outside temperatures -- you should be good knock wise. Especially since OBD2 logging sucks so much.

Super Bleeder!! 05-15-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jrohner (Post 241036)
Pretty sure a 98 GSX with like $5000 in it beating those cars is putting money to good use.

To be fair you did dyno in fwd which means you cant really compare your numbers to the awd cars. I would imagine you would be right in with the rest of the pack in awd mode, around 300awhp.

Perhaps Shane can chime in.

turbotalon1g 05-15-2008 04:16 PM

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You wouldn't beat me Jrohner, and i only $4k into my car.
lol

Kracka 05-15-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 241046)
You wouldn't beat me Jrohner, and i only $4k into my car.
lol

You didn't dyno and I'm pretty sure your car is in pieces right now; no need to start bench racing wars :D

scheides 05-15-2008 04:23 PM

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I think we need to bring back the call-out thread....

Halon 05-15-2008 04:25 PM

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The Saab calls out the WRX ;) But I think 2 people have to be in the WRX to be the "handicap".

Kracka 05-15-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Halon (Post 241049)
The Saab calls out the WRX ;) But I think 2 people have to be in the WRX to be the "handicap".

LOL I'm sure Janelle would give it a try! She raced xfactor trying to gain some, as she called it, "street cred" :)

jrohner 05-15-2008 04:40 PM

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You wouldn't beat me Jrohner, and i only $4k into my car.
If you have a 1G, like your name suggests, it shouldn't be too hard to have $4000 in it. My 1G I have like less than $1000 in.

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To be fair you did dyno in fwd which means you cant really compare your numbers to the awd cars. I would imagine you would be right in with the rest of the pack in awd mode, around 300awhp.
For some reason, people thought that SRT4 was so great though -- that's fwd. It showed almost identical torque as my car, but to me it looked like it could've been just from a boost spike, because the torque dropped a lot right away, and I think that was before the tire blew.

I think only 7 of us broke 300hp actually. I would like to know about how much mine would be in awhp -- it can't hardly have more than twice as much power loss to awd as fwd can it? Also I wouldnt have spun the tires if i was in awd -- so that wouldve helped some (also wouldve then turned up the boost a little more). When i turned up the boost, my hp curve dropped like a rock after 5-5500 because of wheel spin -- I actually showed less power above 6 grand with 24psi than with 21. It was very obvious watching the car that it was spinning -- not the clutch slipping or knock. I was happy with 380lbs of torque, but was hoping for 365hp (but with more boost than I ran). I don't know if it matters much or not but, my downpipe is only 1 3/4" at the front, and my manifold & o2 housing are untouched also.

scheides 05-15-2008 04:52 PM

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http://jj.am/gallery/d/48879-1/chaps.jpg

Why do dyno day threads erupt like the week or two after the event with drama?

http://jj.am/gallery/d/33247-1/dramacat.jpg

TkrPerformance 05-15-2008 05:25 PM

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because it is fun.
I sould have just brought craig's car and we would not be having this arugment.
just have to say craigs car 418awhp on 2 spun rod barrings

311evo 05-15-2008 05:28 PM

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So why dont the people who are bickering go "test and compare?"
sounds like it would pretty much end the shenadigens.

TkrPerformance 05-15-2008 05:30 PM

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hell ya. that will put a stop to it really fast

HiImBrian 05-15-2008 05:30 PM

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Holy sandy vaginas. What is with all these newbs actin like they own the place?

Hey newbie what did you spend $5000 on? All I saw was a less than $1000 turbo setup and e85. Please fill me in.

And yes, you can't go around wavin your dick around to the awd guys imo. Why didn't you dyno awd anyways?

Speedfreak 05-15-2008 05:40 PM

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I have a 1g and have a lot more the 5k into it. From the newb comments, I would guess he doesn't approve. Maybe a friendly run would show where the money went. :P

And to be honest, nobody with real HP even dyno'd that day. It's funny when a bunch of new guys believe their shit doesn't stink. Stick around a while and take a look around at what others here have, then talk shit.

turbotalon1g 05-15-2008 05:59 PM

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lol, this thread is awesome.

Kracka 05-15-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 311evo (Post 241058)
So why dont the people who are bickering go "test and compare?"
sounds like it would pretty much end the shenadigens.

Because most people can't back their shit up :D If you think you're faster than someone then go meet up and prove it, but don't sit here and bicker about it when the weather is perfect for some testing and comparing.

Shane@DBPerformance 05-15-2008 06:10 PM

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What are you guys even fighting about?

Shane@DBPerformance 05-15-2008 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jrohner (Post 241042)
Didn't knock, but yeah you couldn't even touch the piping from the turbo to the TB. No knock is no knock and nothing ever happened to my engine. E85 is awesome.

I know that the actual number shown doesn't correlate to anything, but from what I've seen if the number doesn't go up more when going higher on timing, leaner AFR, more boost, or higher outside temperatures -- you should be good knock wise. Especially since OBD2 logging sucks so much.

The stock ECU will normally retard timing from extremely faint knock before add-on knock devices can even pick anything up, 4G63's do not knock all that loud compared to some other motors. You can log knock on 2Gs nowdays. E85 can be so knock resistant though that you can reach a point where you don't gain power from leaner or more timing, yet it might not be knocking.

craig 05-15-2008 06:32 PM

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+1 for bringing back the call out thread

311evo 05-15-2008 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by craig (Post 241077)
+1 for bringing back the call out thread

Not sure what this is (im a newb) but it sounds promising!

jrohner 05-15-2008 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedfreak (Post 241062)
I have a 1g and have a lot more the 5k into it. From the newb comments, I would guess he doesn't approve. Maybe a friendly run would show where the money went. :P

I meant no disrespect saying 4-5 grand or more is quite a bit in a car that old. Its just 1G vs 2G. 1G's are easier to find (for me anyways) and since they're older they're a lot cheaper to buy. In my opinion, it would be excessive to have 5 grand in a 1G and not get over 300AWHP. I realize many people put money into paintjobs and other parts that are for the looks not just power, and I see nothing wrong with that.

I do think, however, a 1G is a nicer and better built car than a 2G, so it's maybe not that bad to put money in a 1G.

Why does it seem like almost thread that gets long ends up with people arguing. It would be awesome for everyone to TRY to get along. I like good information better than arguing, bashing, and fighting.

Good day to you all

craig 05-15-2008 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 311evo (Post 241080)
Not sure what this is (im a newb) but it sounds promising!

to politely ask someone to a test and compare.

craig 05-15-2008 08:41 PM

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5k is nothing to put into a car built engine and good turbo setup is going to cost more than that.

HiImBrian 05-15-2008 09:06 PM

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jrohner-
I really appreciate the concerning pm. And instead of dick/punk/kid you can just call me Brian. :)

btw, just to clear anything up, jrohner spend $5000 including the purchase price of the car.

123abc 05-15-2008 09:49 PM

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It would be interesting to find out how much drivetrain loss there really is between awd and fwd dsm's, 1g's and 2's. I think there'd be a lot of suprises.

BTW: Who the hell cares how much money is into a car?

jrohner 05-15-2008 11:52 PM

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Is there a plan for a fall dyno day? I'd love to go there and do a dyno with awd. My cousin was saying i should get mine awd again for this dyno day, but I didn't really wanna mess with it at the time -- kinda wanted to relax some before the dyno day -- plus I didn't want to potentially have a bunch of trouble and miss it. It was such a fun day. I was really hoping to see some powerful cars -- like 700+ HP or so.

The reason I wasn't AWD is because I think the tranny I put in my car must've had a locked viscous or something and 95-96 front differential gearing. Meaning my car was boiling the rearend grease out of it! I kinda got ripped on a tranny off ebay i guess. I would just make mine RWD and leave it that way probably but for some reason mine doesn't have an LSD rear -- that sucks.

---------------------------

Mr.98GSX - well I appreciate you calling me jrohner (jeff or rohner is alright too) instead this time instead of newb dick waiver. I had no intention of coming off like -- my car is so much cheaper than yours yet so much better too. A couple people said my car was impressive for what it is and I'm like yeah I'm happy with it.

I wasn't trying be any part of starting an argument, sorry if it seemed like it. Sometimes it is hard to know HOW a person is saying something when you just see the words and don't hear how they are being said, that's probably why there are so many arguments in forums.

We should all get back to talking about the fun day or helpful/interesting info instead of wasting forum space arguing. A fun day should be fun to talk about afterwards.

later

Jeff

scheides 05-16-2008 12:04 AM

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Fall dyno day is not set, but plan for October-ish, i.e. the fall :) Switch it to AWD, fwd sux!

Don't make me get out the broom for your sandy vaginas now....

turbotalon1g 05-16-2008 12:12 AM

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too much noobathon going on in here. looks like style is getting some balls again. nice


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