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Goat Blower 09-01-2015 02:20 PM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
I think the prevailing thought is to pull from the OFH, and port the relief hole to bleed off high end pressure but keep more oil pressure at idle. Without balance shafts in my car, I started with the normal port work, then really ported it as far as I could go when I was logging over 1 psi/100 rpm above 5000 rpm., brought it down exactly where I wanted it.

In your case, plenty of oil should be getting to the head to feed the turbo, but it's still not as good as the OFH. I know the high-G drag race guys are putting a small baffle on the oil pickup as well.

s1ngletracker 09-01-2015 03:02 PM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
our OFH is ported and our oil pressure is totally reasonable. I'll look into the OFH turbo feed... after I determine actual cause of death in my autopsy!

Speedfreak 09-01-2015 08:05 PM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s1ngletracker (Post 458053)
-It takes maybe a minute and a half to fill the car.
-Either that or belting in the driver, we're unfortunately not as fast as we could be at that.
-Depends on the length of the race, usually tires if its a 24hr
-Cool suit ice, sometimes top off with oil (not our car though). whatever breaks
-Generally yes, if you get the right ones
-180+

You have a lot of questions! I'd highly recommend renting a seat or going to a race to crew to get a feel for what it is like. The team doesnt' need to be near you to do that.

What are the costs involved in renting a seat?

And what type of equipment (to what extent is race atire required etc) required to purchase to be prepared?

asshanson 09-02-2015 03:11 AM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedfreak (Post 458062)
What are the costs involved in renting a seat?

And what type of equipment (to what extent is race atire required etc) required to purchase to be prepared?

I'd also like to know what the cost of renting a seat is (I would assume 300-500 range for a weekend event). I have zero wheel to wheel experience, just HPDE, and I'm not sure they'd want me since I don't think I'm a great driver by any means. I do ok in HPDE events, but mainly because the car is fast. Also, where would I find an ad for driver seats available?

Regarding equipment, assuming I'd need a full suit, I only have an SA2010 helmet right now. But I guess that is just a one time cost.

AJ 09-02-2015 06:01 AM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
When I've looked it was around $400-$500 depending on the amount of racing and likely seat time and opportunity for wear on the car. Other than that it was suit and helmet rental which wasn't bad at all to avoid full purchase outright.

s1ngletracker 09-02-2015 09:25 AM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
Each stint will cost you in that range. 2 stints (one per race on a 2 day race weekend) will be between 800-1200.

you can read WRL rules (www.racewrl.com) to know the equipment requirements. In short: SA rated helmet, multi layer suit or single layer with nomex undies, gloves, shoes, socks, and I highly recommend HNR - Hans device or similar. WRL will require drivers to have them in 2016. You can share with teammates.

Also highly recommended and most teams will require - radio helmet kit, mic and earbuds in your helmet to communicate with pits. Also a cool shirt if the weather is hot.

You can find open seat postings in the forums of any of the series'. HPDE experience should be all that you need, but understand you may have to rent with a slower team to start out, most of the top teams will want friends or someone with significant racing experience.

If you guys are serious and want more detail or help with any of the above, I'd be more than happy to help. Also Paul Johansen and Shane@DB also have been racing a lot and can offer advice.

s1ngletracker 09-02-2015 03:41 PM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
FYI - don't race with your car that low. It borks up the suspension geometry and you get crappy tire wear and suboptimal handling :( But damn it looks good!

s1ngletracker 09-02-2015 06:58 PM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
And some video of my awful driving, as seen by the in-car video of an EG civic with Type R motor:

https://youtu.be/NpvPZ-crUq4

asshanson 09-03-2015 03:16 AM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
Are you saying don't run a dsm as low as you have it?
I have quite a mental battle not lowering my car for looks vs performance. Everyone says they get better lap times at stock height but the couple inches of gap really bothers me. But I don't want to sacrifice performance haha. But it's so easy to lower since it has coilovers stock... Function over looks I suppose.

As for the vid, at least you stayed ahead of him for a long while, not bad at all.

Oh, and damn that video makes me want to start wheel to wheel racing!

s1ngletracker 09-03-2015 08:51 AM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
Yeah I had passed him just before the video started. The civic is really fast and well set up. Apparently I lit a fire under his ass when I passed him.

Yeah, the car is too low. I was actually losing camber under suspension bump, stupid mcphearson suspension. It understeered a bit much and tire wear was not great.

Tachyon 09-03-2015 08:13 PM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
Sounds like you guys are really close with your car, Paul! Bummer about the alternator of all the dorky things.

We're one of the cheaper WRL teams out there with our GP3 Tiburon at $600 a seat all-inclusive (including motel room, tires, race and hauler fuel), as we are trying to make it very accessible rather than outright competing at this stage of things. That being said, you are going to be substantially money ahead renting a seat for your first few races, even at 1k a race to see if you like it vs forking over the cost of developing a car for endurance.

If you have not done wheel to wheel racing before, Chump Car World Series probably makes the most sense as the series caters towards introducing new teams and drivers to endurance racing.

s1ngletracker 09-09-2015 06:07 PM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
This is fun:

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...15&oe=5662B764

turbotalon1g 09-10-2015 09:36 AM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
Poop

s1ngletracker 09-10-2015 10:28 AM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
valuable input, as always

Goat Blower 09-10-2015 10:45 AM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
I don't know if I've ever seen that before. Did the wheel bounce around the housing before it split?

turbotalon1g 09-10-2015 11:36 AM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
Sorry I mean please let me buy your turbo and then lowball you because I got lost.

On topic, you might need a new turbo.

s1ngletracker 09-10-2015 01:09 PM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
I think you've got the wrong guy, Aaron.

Steve: hard to say, the wheels are all banged up but looks like a more instant catastrophic failure than slow grinding of the wheel. The two halves were jammed in there so hard I had to hammer them out.

I'm thinking it is more a function of past abuse than side effects from our car. Thinking it was on a car with excessively high EGTs, which baked the wheel to a point of being very brittle, and the racing stresses were a bit more than it could handle. I really hate having to use old questionable parts, seems to always leave you guessing.

Halon 09-10-2015 01:21 PM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
I'd run it, let r buck.

s1ngletracker 09-10-2015 02:04 PM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
sounds like it had about 40 hp in that state :D

AwdGSX13 09-10-2015 02:09 PM

Re: Just finished my first endurance race in a 1g DSM!
 
That happened to mine, however the nut just came loose on the compressor wheel and yeah without the turbo it had no power


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