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Speedfreak 04-10-2009 11:59 AM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JET (Post 285515)
That isn't that bad of luck! I was waiting to hear that you blew it up on the dyno! My car started spitting molten aluminum and started the firewall on fire, THAT is bad luck :D

EXACTLY^^!!

I didn't read the whole thread.. but get over yourself. That isn't that bad of luck, that is CARS in general. We all have our own issues with them, and they all suck just the same. Boo fricken who.

santa 04-10-2009 11:59 AM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
Check your compression yet??

Swifty1638 04-10-2009 12:00 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
could be the size of the turbo/mani runners, the 3" ic pipe, the q45, the jmf mani, etc. I dunno. I'm also on a 2.0l, not your fancy shmancy stroker..lol

jhaan_dude 04-10-2009 12:09 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
could it be your cam angle sensor (or position sensor)?

Swifty1638 04-10-2009 12:14 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
tried swapping those..I don't think i've tried a black top, but I can't see how that would really effect it much (between the two)

jhaan_dude 04-10-2009 12:18 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
to me it seem like something is not gettting enough signal at 8k, try a black top....just my 2 cents

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 04-10-2009 12:24 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
just throw a 100 shot direct into it, maybe it might just sputter past 7500! If that doesn't work, try a 200 shot!

niterydr 04-10-2009 12:25 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jhaan_dude (Post 285593)
to me it seem like something is not gettting enough signal at 8k, try a black top....just my 2 cents

It is at 8k under load, so it is the load issue at that rpm point, not the rpm in itself AFAIK.

jhaan_dude 04-10-2009 12:25 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
if you do that, make sure you get it on video!!!

Swifty1638 04-10-2009 12:25 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by At-Least-It's-An-Evo (Post 285597)
just throw a 100 shot direct into it, maybe it might just sputter past 7500! If that doesn't work, try a 200 shot!

on your car maybe, but not mine.

jhaan_dude 04-10-2009 12:31 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
whats the duty cycle you are running your injectors to?

Swifty1638 04-10-2009 12:36 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
about 70%. We think the filter is starting to clog up, as pressure is dropping up top. I can't imagine I'm running out of fuel with my "overkill fuel pump setup".

-A. Swift

jhaan_dude 04-10-2009 12:54 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
i wouldnt think so either, and thanks nite i forgot about the free rev thing.....how many grounds do you have? and where?

Halon 04-10-2009 12:55 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
What filter are you using?

I'm using a Golan, and am keeping a close eye on it because I've heard of them failing under high boost.

Shane@DBPerformance 04-10-2009 12:58 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 285537)
1600s are fine, the only complaint I have with them is when you are cruising they will have an occasional "miss" to them, but from what I have found that is common.

1600s with an AEM are horrible. The stock Mitsu ECUs can run them 100x easier than an AEM. 1600s should not be used as a primary injector with an AEM EMS. You can play with dead time and injector phasing for hours and still have to run the A/Fs in the 12s at light throttle to get it not to misfire and buck. They are fine at higher load or on a drag only car. I won't run 1600s as my primary injectors on my car with an AEM and I have all the time I want to spend on trying to get it to run smooth. I run 1600s on my wife's car with a factory ECU and it's easy cheesy.

The car has an almost stutterbox sounding cut out that always hits at 7850-7900 RPMs. When it does it, the car loads up on fuel and runs like shit for a while until all the fuel clears out. Very weird. It isn't a plug or gap issue. It's too bad since the car was flawless on the dyno mechanically. No oil sprarying all over, no coolant blowing out, rock solid coolant temps, no I/C pipes blowing off.

His car seemed to move out pretty quick on the freeway though, it would walk away from me until he hit revlimiter or the cut out problem.

DSMLink with a stock ignition setup would make things a lot easier. I don't think anyone should run an AEM EMS on these cars, unless they need to run 8 injectors. And if stock igntion can make 1000whp, then why put on a COP system that don't work right 75% of the time.

Swifty1638 04-10-2009 01:01 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
I sorta wanna test a black top and a stock ignition setup, just to compare. I know that COP works though, it's been proven, and on paper should be better..so why does this shit suck? use all 4 channels on the msd? I dunno.

Sorry for "swerving" a bit shane..the car is rather loose under boost. As I'm sure you heard..the car doesn't like to downshift to 3rd..and sit there at a higher rpm..it bucks sputters etc..then you floor it and it does the same..THEN cleans up and goes..it kinda sucks..

-A. Swift

Swifty1638 04-10-2009 01:02 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
BTW, I can't thank enough to everyone that's helped me. Shane, Josh, John..etc. You guys have helped it get to the point it's at today..if that means anything.

-A. Swift

Halon 04-10-2009 01:06 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
I would let you borrow my Link setup and stock ignition setup for a day if it helped you troubleshoot your issues Swifty. But I think you're on SD which it really won't support.

I am jealous that you don't have coolant issues :( I keep a cup in the car now for emptying out my overflow, and refilling the system.

A//// Guy 04-10-2009 01:07 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
Do what Shane and others have said, ditch COP and maybe AEM. Link should be a lot easier to work with too. Also smaller turbo and bam, problems fixed?

Shane@DBPerformance 04-10-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?
 
The COP systems you usually see on DSMs are cheap junk is the problem. You need good coils and a real CDI behind it like an M&W box. And why do COP if it's still going to run wasted spark. Every DSM COP setup I have had here at the shop has had very sketchy wires running to the coils also. Look at Curt Brown's last adventure to th dyno with a COP on the car.


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