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One solid piece, no welds.

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That transition coupler is really nice, I like it! No mounting brackets on the UICP though?

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Hah don't expect anything crazy, I don't plan on pushing it...I'll be running my usual 30psi as my fuel system is at its limit anyways.

Dunno, it was just in the box.

Yup it's a nice piece! I'm actually not even using it on my car yet b/c my car came with a modified turbo outlet pipe that transitions to 2.5" on its own. It's not very smooth but it doesn't appear to be holding me back yet :D I'll probably sell it with my (soon to be) fixed old UICP.

No brackets, that would just add cost I guess and I don't really think they are necessary. I kinda like not having them actually, lets the pipe move more when the engine rocks. It would definitely 100% eliminate blown I/C pipes but other than last night (forgot to fully tighten t-bolt on intercooler) it has never ever been a problem for me on this car.

That being said, this car drives *amazingly well* with a blown I/C pipe. On a DSM/CT9A maf-based evo you would be hard pressed to make it anywhere...I actually drove several miles back to my house and just fixed the car in the garage, no issue...just light throttle.



Oh, and in other news, my LTFT's decided to start working again! Checked this morning, right at 1.5% :D

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Is the car SD?

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Partially...sorta.

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lol, well i guess that explains it.

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The ECU uses both an SD and MAF calculation and depending on conditions, makes fueling adjustments based on both.

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You coulda borrowed mine! :D

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LOL! I'd love to see how they're routed on your car actually, mine is just redonk....8.5' belt!

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New pipe looks nice. I always use hump couplers at the very ends now a days as well to allow for some flex.

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Well, the car is missing about 25-30whp IMHO but that's how my luck rolls with cars :) I'm fairly certain I have gunk on my intake valves again, need to run some pump gas/injector cleaner through this thing and see if it improves...should have done it before yesterday but meh, life's busy.

MitsuStyle.com spring dyno day yesterday! We were a little down on car count so we put my car on last and Shane @ DB Performance tweaked it a bit since it's been a year since it's been really dyno tuned. First pull was 467whp, final pull was 499.7:

This is a 1.0CF Dyno Dynamics dyno.

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/...dyno.sized.jpg

Walbro 400 + BAP + boomba rail + FIC 1680's are doing their job pretty well!
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/..._afr.sized.jpg

Still some taper, but we had some odd fueling issues so just left boost like so:
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/...oost.sized.jpg

and dynojet/shootout numbers:
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/...tout.sized.jpg


Got it on the road and afrs went a little leaner....so I realized last night that I need to really finish/re-engineer my air filter heat shield situation. I have a small shield that I made temporarily out of my stock exhaust manifold shield :) but the stock snorkel bypasses this and blows right on the filter....I have the primo intake and the maf sensor is placed right by the air filter, at the end of the pipe...I haven't looked at other manufacturers, but IMHO they should be moving the sensor back a good 6-10" from the filter inlet to avoid what I'm seeing.

I love having fresh air blow right to the intake but I guess it's causing problems. On the dyno afrs are rock-steady in the 11's, but I hit 13's on the street. Last night I had a eureka moment with all of this and I temporarily blocked the snorkel with my temporary shield and AFRs instantly dropped to where they were on the dyno.

So I ordered one of these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370609679924

We'll see how well it fits and how functional it is...if it's all good then I will get it and my new UICP powdercoated wrinkle black.

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^^ nice.. plus engine bling blang!! :)

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Looking very solid there, great numbers bud! Congrats.

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Good idea on the air filter heat shield. Let me know if it works out. I need to do something similar, as I had the same kind of AFR situation from dyno to street a while back on the silver car.

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Nice numbers! Car was looking good on Saturday too!

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Great numbers for a killer street setup, and still kick some ass at the track. Must be a blast to drive.

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Thanks guys!

Got the shield in tonight, $30 shipped from summit via ebay, hell yea! I tried a few different clamping techniques but ended up clamping it under the clamp for the air filter itself....the lip to clamp it down onto is really NOT very wide so I HOPE it doesn't rattle off...we'll see tomorrow I guess!

Fits nicely but not perfectly around the 3.5" inlet filter:
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/...eld1.sized.jpg

Blocks air from a/c fan as well as snorkel:
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/...eld2.sized.jpg

But still lets the snorkel dump fresh air into the engine bay, I like that!
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/...ld3.sized.jpeg


Fingers crossed, seems to fit nicely!
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/...eld4.sized.jpg

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Not a bad garage-rigged solution! You could probably cut it down a bit to allow some of the fresh snorkel air to the filter, but while still blocking the A/C fan air.

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Not a bad solution, I need to cover my filters as well, link?

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wow, those numbers are hella killer! haha. looks good with all that bling lol ;)

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Look good for how a nice ebay find! Are you going to get it PC'd to match?

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That's the thing, the issue I'm seeing now is that air from the snorkel itself is affecting my AFRs on the street. The faster the car is going, the more turbulence is hitting the MAF, and unfortunately its causing my AFRs to go lean :(

The way I figure, this shield will block that direct blast of air but still let the snorkel's fresh air still fill all the area around the filter.

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Well, initial test is a success! AFRs are right where I want them...no shield over the snorkel I was in the high 12's. This is crazy.

http://scheides.com/misc/pics/evox/e...ld-afrtest.jpg


I think there's a link up a few posts, but I happen to have the tab open still. They make a few different sizes, this is the one I got (Spectre 8130 Air Filter Heat Shield):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370609679924

Yea, I just want to make sure the way I have it mounted is a good long-term solution. Both UICP and shield will be visiting PowderKeg here shortly! I almost want to re-do my intake too so it all matches nicely, but that may not be possible due to timeline.

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Awesome proof that the stock snorkel is actually effective!

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Yea, I think if the sensor was back further in the pipe this would be less of a problem, but then it'd probably buck when the BOV went off, so who knows.

I'm happy for now, maybe I'll just take a sharpee to the pipes to get them black and call it a day? :)

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Looking good!

Wow, 36psi on the streets, must be ripping :) DO a VD run now, just curious...

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I need to run a tank or two of pump gas through it first, car is down a bit on power. Torque is in good shape though :D

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REAL dyno charts aren't good enough for ya? :lol:

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Nope :)

One thing I have learned, regardless of dyno, the car will always run different on the street. At least mine does.

He is running a few lbs more of boost on the street compared to where he was on Shane's dyno.

I don't care for numbers much anymore, more so comparison. So same cars same dyno, same car same dyno/street :) I was just curious how his car runs on the street at this level and tuned compared to before when he was hitting 640ish on VD.

Comparisons I enjoy, not so much bigger/smaller numbers is all I am saying.

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Isn't this just more air needing more fuel? Are u out of fuel?

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His fueling issues are speed-based, not RPM based.

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ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. That's weird.
How good/what whp are the stock MAFs good for?

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Depends how large of a pipe you have it in. Once you max out the MAF (5.0v) in the stock 2.75" MAF-housing you can step up to a 3 or 3.5". The downside of doing that is less resolution meaning idle and low-speed drivability can suffer. My car is pretty much at the limit for the stock housing, I max it out during long 5th gear pulls into the higher RPM's.

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Hotwire MAFs, like the Evo X has are very prone to being messed up by air blowing at them from things like radiator fans or the intake snorkle in Chris's case.

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oh god, you said hotwire maf.

That made my stomach turn a bit, i messed with one back in the day with the PMS system on a dsm. :(

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Yea..again, the the issue is that on the street, the car goes leaner than on the dyno. On the dyno the car is tuned to mid-11's and on the street AFRs jumped to high 12's/low 13's. Adding this shield seems to have fixed this, I'm super happy!

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Picked up my emergency CMC backup kit from MAP today!

OEM CMC, AMS reinforcement ring, and brake fluid. This will go on the shelf to be swapped in whenever the time comes :)

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/evox_CMC.sized.jpg

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Hopefully never...

When the time comes, I can come help. I have that install down now :)

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This should be a lot quicker than what you went through though...if I'm reading the manual right, I don't have to remove the brake cylinder or anything, the stocker just twists into place. I hope it's just that easy (albeit a massively cramped place).

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I wouldn't believe that at all. Look at your car today, lol. They do twist in but I have no idea how you would get your hand back there at all. Seems almost impossible, but part of the issue I had was the hard line and banjo bolt so close to the brake booster.

Who knows, maybe it can be done, I'll believe it when I see it haha.