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Correct.

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Yea, its right on the slave cylinder. You will likely have to yank your intake off and its right on the front of the trans. Here's mine w/ rosey fork stopper on it. Bleeder is on the right, the slave rod that pushes on the clutch fork is on the left. Push the pedal down and this will move left about an inch. Let the pedal out and it will come back to its resting spot. If it doesn't move more than 1/4" or something then you have a problem.

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Also, what's this talk about tomorrow morning, shit dude go fix it, the night is young! Hell it's still 'afternoon' :D

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The rod was moving more than that for sure.

I am worn out right now...late night last night and the twins are going to be on soon. Otherwise I would. Sounds like Aaron is going to come help out a bit tomorrow morn, so we will see how all that goes. I'll post up results.

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I'm betting with your AMS-style intake you won't even need to remove it. Just snake the hose up through a hole in the undertray.

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I can see the slave pretty easily, I think I should be able to just get it from above, either way it shouldn't be too much work.

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Just make sure whoever is in the car pushing the pedal down uses their hand and holds onto the pedal, just push it SLOWLY. Open the bleeder on the slave after they've started pushing and close it before they have bottomed out. Vocal communication is key. Repeat repeat repeat, flush that air bubble out!

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I sure hope it is just an air bubble...

I picked up some DOT 4 tonight and the clear tube so should be good to go for tomorrow morning.

Lets hope this works!

PS. I HATE THE FUCKING YANKEES!

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Well Aaron (turbotalon1g) and myself carpooled it over to my car...no dice :( We bleed all the brakes (there was a little air in the brakes, nothing crazy) and then we did the clutch a lot...there was some very dirty fluid in the clutch and we used a lot of fluid to really flush the clutch but still no good.

If you try to build pressure at the clutch at all it drops to the floor and you can here what appears to be air leaking from the clutch master cylinder inside the cabin near the clutch pedal...Aaron heard it as well so maybe he can describe it better.

Regardless we both agreed that it is almost undoubtedly the master cylinder after how much bleeding we did and by the sound it was making. So tomorrow I am going to call magnus and see if they will replace mine under warranty, i would hope they would. Also I will call Danny at DB and see if he can maybe look at this sometime this week and hopefully AAA will tow my car there for free as I am a AAA member.

We will see how this all goes down.

Lomker you have PM.

EDIT:

Almost forgot since I am a little pissed the master cylinder is bad...

BIG THANKS to Aaron for the help, much appreciated buddy, beers for you from me on the cruise!

Another EDIT:

This wasn't too terrible of a job at all, sure it took us a few hours but we weren't going for speed. Thanks for the posts for the order and advice to the others too :) Much appreciated.

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Boo! I've never heard a master make an air noise, that's truely odd. What a ghey issue. Sorry dude. Glad you know how to bleed everything now though, its kinda like an oil change, everyone should know how to do it.

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I've heard masters make noises when they're full of air. My IX and SiliconTek's X. The only thing I can think to try anymore is bleeding with a pressurized bleeder or maybe let it gravity bleed for a few hours (slave nipple cracked open and reservoir cap removed while periodically checking to keep the fluid topped off).

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Oh! You're right Kracka, I do remember when we let that air bubble get into your CMC the one time b/c we didn't keep the reservoir overfilled while bleeding. I don't remember how we fixed it though, just lots and lots and lots of bleeding? I remember yelling 'up!' 'up!' 'down!' 'down!' at each other till we were blue in the face.

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Tons of bleeding, hours of gravity bleeding, line disassembly, etc.

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^Ugggghhhh...this week sucks, I can't work on the car at all, I am going to be in Seattle for work :(

I am going to talk things over with Danny tomorrow still and see if he thinks it makes sense to tow it to DB.

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I do have one of the Motive power bleeders if you ever need it. I haven't used it yet...it's a part of the brake upgrade pile that I have here. I figure I'll get to that in the Spring.

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I'll let you know lomker, thanks for the offer.

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if you want help man, I'm pretty open all week, especially during the day, and I have a full toolbox. Grab a bleeder, and let's go to town on that bitch!

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I guess if you want to go to my dads shop in New Brighton you can give it a try, lol.

I am gone Tuesday thru thursday though for work so I won't be able to do anything with it.

I honestly don't think bleeding will help it anymore at this point. Danny at DB has bleed it 3 times now, once for a few hours and Aaron and myself did it also for quite a while, it just didn't want to go anywhere. I could see maybe a power bleeder doing something, but pressure bleeding ain't going to do shit.

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Get the power bleeder and try it before you leave. Worth a try and you only need one person to use it (IIRC).

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One and the same :)

Give it a try, at this point anything is worth a shot before paying DB to rip it all apart again.

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Interesting, I was wondering how/where that gets installed.

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Well I was simply assuming the power bleeder deal had more force or something to bleed it better.

I don't think bleeding will help, we spent a few hours bleeding it yesterday. And this is after DB did it like 3 times already for hours...I just don't see it being a bleeding issue.

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Isn't there something with the SSP V2/3 where it won't properly bleed unless done with a power (pressurized) bleeder? I wonder if that statement is valid, and if so, if it could also apply to the Magnus?

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Maybe, that was what I was thinking that the pressurized bleeder could somehow get the air bubble out of the MC if that is the cause, but I don't know enough about it.

I think I need to talk with Danny about this before I do anything.

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Beg lomker to come over tonight with his :D

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I wasn't planning on doing a whole lot tonight with the Vikings being and the fact I need to do laundry and pack.

But maybe I will try one last time.

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The two of us working on a car would be hilarious. If Dave wasn't out of town most of the week I'd suggest getting Swifty to supervise trying the Motive.

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Car is on the way to DB now...AAA discount as its a haul from New Brighton to DB so its not free, but $80 isn't terrible. I hate to spend money on towing but driving the car there wasn't going to happen, it was too risky imo.

So i guess we will see what they find.

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I'd get taht power bleeder dropped off to DB then. Some cars do require power bleeders because of the way their systems are plumbed. Just like some vehicles need to be bleed with the car running..which, you might also wanna try. It's been a little while since I've done one this way, but I remember the last SUV I did this way, it wouldn't really bleed at all off, but once it was running it would shoot that fluid out, along with bubbles...

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^I was wondering the same thing.

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Well I am guessing DB will try those things quick for me before they do the harder stuff like removing the master cylinder.

I guess we will see.

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DB got a hold of Marco today at Magnus and its final, Magnus is sending me a new master cylinder...I am the lucky guy to get a failed one:(

Marco said he thinks I have one with a failed internal seal...Marco said he has seen this once ever so I am just that lucky. I am going to try and get my car running this Friday for the cruise this weekend, but we will see.

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Shitty. Good luck!

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Thanks man.

I should've said DB is going to try and get my car running not me, lol :)

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Awesome, I hope this is the issue. I was reading and about to post that you should let me know when this comes in, but then I got to the last post. lol

Well hopefully magnus can get it here.

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He's picking up mine tomorrow night. It's just a matter of if DB has any issues getting it installed on Friday.

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oh awesomeness then.

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Just got back home after a long day of flying then driving from plymouth (work) to Lomker's in St. Paul to DB to drop off the MC lomker gave me.

I pray DB gets this in tomorrow, Danny said he would try his best, all I can ask.

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is that MC hard to get at? you could always do it yourself. Idk how easy/hard it is on a 10.

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Kinda yea, its buried really far behind the ECU bracket and shit tucked way up in the fender area. I can show you sometime.

I could maybe do it, but seeing as how I am having problems, I just want it done right.

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Some good news I guess, minus the fact I need to spend more money.

They are wrapping up my car now and bleeding it again with the new MC in there. Magnus basically told Danny to order a new MC from Mitsu (evo 9 one) and they would reimburse him.

They took apart my evo 9 one and found the inner seal was ripped as Marco at Magnus said, which he has seen once ever, twice now I guess :(

So good news is the MC was the problem, so some relief that it won't happen again with the new one, or should I say odds are low.

And more good news the car will be ready for this weekend :)