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Kracka 07-09-2010 11:05 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by TheBlizzard (Post 348217)
This is what I was thinking as well, but that wouldn't explain why it wouldn't start on an incline.

Maybe the incline had nothing to do with it...just random chance that when he rolled it down to flat ground the engine had enough time to cool down by that point.

Did you try any other warm (not hot) starts on flat ground?

mlomker 07-09-2010 11:10 AM

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scheides: Going back to stock is the last-resort option. I don't see it as anything else.

Kracka/Shawn: I tried pumping the pedal once but not flooring it. The flooding possibility is definitely there given the fuel pressure situation. I wasn't aware that the pressure was so high until I checked the gauge this morning.

Dave, it's a different regulator. It might be possible to buy it and drill different holes in it for mine. I need to call them this morning about that MAF flange anyway (out of stock for two weeks).

Kracka 07-09-2010 11:14 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 348219)
scheides: Going back to stock is the last-resort option. I don't see it as anything else.

I see it as a great option actually. Sell the (no offense) piece of crap dual pump hangar and replace it with a stock hangar and pump setup. If that isn't enough to keep your surge tank/Bosch fed then add a BAP to it. Simple = good and I bet you could make a lot of money back trading your FB/BO hangar for stock + cash.

mlomker 07-09-2010 11:51 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 348220)
I see it as a great option actually

I am stubborn, huh? I get that way about troubleshooting because I also see it as a learning opportunity. I know more about fuel systems than the average Joe at this point. That trait made me pretty sharp in the IT field but it's not always expedient.

Dave, MAP is selling me a bracket for cheap. Hopefully I can affix my regulator to it in some fashion. It should be an easier place to start from, anyway!

Murlo26 07-09-2010 11:56 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 348223)
I am stubborn, huh? I get that way about troubleshooting because I also see it as a learning opportunity. I know more about fuel systems than the average Joe at this point. That trait made me pretty sharp in the IT field but it's not always expedient.

Dave, MAP is selling me a bracket for cheap. Hopefully I can affix my regulator to it in some fashion. It should be an easier place to start from, anyway!

Sweet! Copying me huh ;)

mlomker 07-09-2010 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 348226)
Sweet! Copying me huh ;)

Just taking your advice. Better write the date on your calendar. lol.

Murlo26 07-09-2010 12:11 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 348228)
Just taking your advice. Better write the date on your calendar. lol.

:)

mlomker 07-09-2010 09:04 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
I didn't realize how tiny the afpr that comes with the MAP kit was...the bracket won't be of any use to me. I am going to have to run the thing over to the space under the conical filter, where I currently have a catch can. That catch can should really be relocated somewhere in the back of the engine bay, anyway...there's just not a great spot for it.

Well, I guess I'll get some opinions at the newb mod day tomorrow. I'm sure there's a spot for it somewhere.

mlomker 07-09-2010 10:51 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
I know this will make most of you laugh, but I'm proud that I was able to make a bracket for my afpr tonight. Stuff like this almost never works out for me. Dremel ftw.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...0/bracket1.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...0/bracket2.jpg

Kracka 07-10-2010 09:18 AM

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Good job! If it works, it works! Now just get it powdercoated at Primo and it'll look perfect.

scheides 07-10-2010 12:57 PM

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Nice work man! As long as it's secure, that looks fantastic!

FattyBoomBatty 07-10-2010 10:49 PM

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That's what I'm talking about. Let me see more stuff like that, I'm all about making your own stuff whether it's little brackets or sectioning the shock bodies to lower the car, doing your own fabrication or figuring stuff out makes the car so much more "yours." You'll love it more.

turbotalon1g 07-11-2010 12:40 PM

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X2.

Good job that will probably be one of the parts u poit out most now.

mlomker 07-11-2010 02:41 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Shawn is so McGyver that he found a better location and had stuff lying around to make a bracket. In the end one of the fittings that I had didn't 'fit' so the afpr didn't get installed.

Re-wiring the pumps solved the excess fuel pressure at idle issue. I'm assuming it'll be close enough under boost to be tunable. If so then I'll skip the afpr since this is one piece of complexity that I don't like.

The PLX gauge setup blows chunks at this point. It may be another thing that looks pretty but doesn't work. If I go over 5k rpm the gauges freeze up and misbehave. If I'm just tooling around town then they are fine. Spent a few more hours this morning troubleshooting but nothing makes sense. I'm going to check whether they need a firmware update and starting reading the thicker manual. no big deal...I didn't have gauges before. lol.

The fueling situation seems really good right now--no misfires or knock when beating on it. Need to get the car to Shane sometime this week so he can check it out before the 26th. I want to get some laps in.

mlomker 07-11-2010 09:49 PM

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Did some more tinkering with the gauges. The OBD module had a built-in terminator that defaulted to 'on' and was messing up the bus (the modules are daisy-chained). Turning that off totally solved the issue with that gauge. The secondary display module is still flaky but I'll need to do some more troubleshooting...might need to be sent in for warranty repair.

I also discovered that my boost gauge was only going to 18psi. I'm guessing that the vacuum line on the BOV is limited to wastegate pressure...I moved the tap over to the 3port line and it looks good. It's apparent that Shane taps in at that spot.

It's such a novelty to have a car that runs right! I was on the back-roads near my Dad's house (WI)...doing pulls to test the gauges. I'd almost forgot why I bought the car. :D

scheides 07-11-2010 11:10 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 348471)
It's such a novelty to have a car that runs right! I was on the back-roads near my Dad's house (WI)...doing pulls to test the gauges. I'd almost forgot why I bought the car. :D

Revel in this and remember it when you think about doing big projects :) I LOVE my evo but only when I can drive it whenever I want to! These cars are too much fun to not drive them!

I'm *really* glad you have it in a good spot now man, congrats! Can't wait to see some final dyno plots and pics/vids of this thing tearing up the track!

Murlo26 07-11-2010 11:12 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 348495)
Revel in this and remember it when you think about doing big projects :) I LOVE my evo but only when I can drive it whenever I want to! These cars are too much fun to not drive them!

This should be our creed or something...Too much fun to not drive...I am starting to understand this. I think not driving my car for so long will only make me love it more.

scheides 07-11-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 348496)
This should be our creed or something...Too much fun to not drive...

Should nothing man, this *IS* my creed! Cars were not made to sit on jackstands.

Murlo26 07-11-2010 11:16 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 348499)
Should nothing man, this *IS* my creed! Cars were not made to sit on jackstands.

Yea, you are totally right. I have come to realize this.

I didn't really have a choice in my scenario, but it will make me think twice before doing anything again.

Kracka 07-12-2010 08:45 AM

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Glad you guys are coming around :)

mlomker 07-12-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 348500)
it will make me think twice before doing anything again.

Well, intentions and reality don't always meet up. Remember that I brought my car in for the work to be done in early March! I thought it'd take maybe 3 weeks. I would have left the car the way it was if I'd known how this was going to turn out.

mlomker 07-12-2010 10:21 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Managed to figure out the PLX gauge wiring today. Those guys don't make anything easy. Now I have to figure out how to get them to display what I want. The OBD module also goes out to lunch under heavy load. I need to call them tomorrow and see if there is a firmware update for that one.

I'm going to buy some vacuum line and re-do some of them tomorrow. I kinda butchered them up taping in at various places to see what the vacuum/boost readings are on various lines. Was curious...

mlomker 07-13-2010 09:18 AM

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OMFG. Everything on my car is working. I'm not sure what to do about this.

I'll get it over to Shane to have the tune checked. I have ordered a few small things in the last week: Torque Solutions driveshaft bushings, Beatrush rear diff mounts, and Racingline rear swaybar end links. It's nice to be down to smaller projects!

I'm going to go to the open house for that alignment place near MAP this weekend. I want an appointment for a corner balance.

Murlo26 07-13-2010 10:54 AM

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^knock on wood. :)

Congrats man, i knew you would eventually get it. Intake damn it intake!

Kracka 07-13-2010 10:59 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 348724)
Drive it damn it drive it!

FTFY

Murlo26 07-13-2010 11:02 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 348726)
FTFY

FTFY?

He has my intake to get a prototype made from. It would actually just be another opportunity to drive the car :) Drive to DB, pick up intake from Dave's car, drive to Primo...Primo makes intake...Lomker installs intake at DB on Dyno next week...bam 450+! (conservatively speaking)

mlomker 07-13-2010 11:04 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 348724)
Intake damn it intake!

I just ordered the silicone connectors, filter, etc. When the MAF flange shows in a few weeks then I'll get Primo working on it.

I'm hoping for a final tune in August. The car is burning oil (presumably the turbo) but it makes power. <shrug>

Kracka 07-13-2010 11:08 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 348727)
FTFY?

fixed that for you

Murlo26 07-13-2010 11:20 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 348728)
I just ordered the silicone connectors, filter, etc. When the MAF flange shows in a few weeks then I'll get Primo working on it.

I'm hoping for a final tune in August. The car is burning oil (presumably the turbo) but it makes power. <shrug>

Ah, right, forgot the MAF flange's were an issue.

mlomker 07-14-2010 09:42 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
This guy has the same afpr that I do. If do have to install it, I'll make a bracket to mount it in the same spot...the way he used some loops off of the fuel rail looks nice.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...2010/afpr3.jpg

mlomker 07-15-2010 08:19 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Here is a pic of the AMI A-pillar (stock pillar w/fiberglass) and the PLX gauges.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...010/amipod.jpg

Kracka 07-15-2010 08:37 AM

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Looks nice, I'll have to check those out if you're around next week during my b-day dinner, tune, or Friday evening events at JJ's Clubhouse.

mlomker 07-15-2010 09:13 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 349093)
Looks nice, I'll have to check those out if you're around next week

What day is your tune? Next week is tough for me...have a paper due for school on Friday night.

Kracka 07-15-2010 09:26 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Friday @ 2pm

Murlo26 07-15-2010 09:26 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Those look pretty good, I want to get that pillar, but visibility already sucks with the X, does this make it worse? If not I will have to pick one up. My gauge on the steering wheel blocks a lot of the speedo and when I get a wideband would block a lot of the tach.

Kracka 07-15-2010 09:28 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 349100)
visibility already sucks with the X

Yes it really does!

Murlo26 07-15-2010 09:32 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 349101)
Yes it really does!

I look around so much before I turn or switch lanes in the car...too many close calls just trying to use mirrors etc. Parking was even a challenge at first til i got used to the car because the visibility is so bad on the sides.

But easy when you get a feel for it. I am thinking about doing something to try and help it if possible, not sure what can be done though.

mlomker 07-15-2010 10:02 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 349100)
does this make it worse? If not I will have to pick one up.

No, it's pretty much out of the way. If you're up to DB in the next few days then check it out.

This AMI pillar is spendy because it's a factory pillar with pods fiberglassed in by hand (I have a spare core if someone wants it). Rexpeed now sells a 'cover' that you glue over your own pillar and just drill holes in it for the wires. Shawn just bought one of those. It's a shiny plastic and I think he's going to look for some spray paint that matches and fix it that way.

Murlo26 07-15-2010 10:07 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 349112)
No, it's pretty much out of the way. If you're up to DB in the next few days then check it out.

This AMI pillar is spendy because it's your factory pillar with pods fiberglassed in by hand (I have a spare core if someone wants it). Rexpeed now sells a 'cover' that you glue over your own pillar and just drill holes in it for the wires. Shawn just bought one of those. It's a shiny plastic and I think he's going to look for some spray paint that matches and fix it that way.

I've run out of excuses to go up to DB...no reason to stop there unless I have parts. I do need to grab my motor mount insert from MAP and bring it to them. But I will wait to up to DB until my V2 SSP MC comes in next week.

How much is expensive? 2-300? PM me if you want.

simulatedwood 07-15-2010 10:08 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 349112)
No, it's pretty much out of the way. If you're up to DB in the next few days then check it out.

This AMI pillar is spendy because it's your factory pillar with pods fiberglassed in (I have a spare core if someone wants it). Rexpeed now sells a 'cover' that you glue over your own pillar and just drill holes in it for the wires. Shawn just bought one of those. It's a shiny plastic and I think he's going to look for some spray paint that matches and fix it that way. The Rexpeed is a ton less expensive.

Doah, I so want your "core" cover, just in case I decide to go back to stock. Yep the Rexpeed cover is what I have, the plastic is way to shiny to just put in, (Read glare from the sun, yuck!) I am planning on getting some matte finish paint so it matches the other a pillar (May paint them both so they match exactly).

That guage setup is so cool, major blingage! :biggrin:


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