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Murlo26 06-07-2010 05:41 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
So is Shane tuning this again this week sometime with the double pumper? Or is it just hanging there until he finds free time he doesn't have with a goal of getting it before your next event?

mlomker 06-07-2010 05:54 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 343550)
So is Shane tuning this again this week sometime with the double pumper?

That's the plan. The BlaqOPs kit is enabled and I'm hoping that with a good ground on the pumps and a full tank of fuel that he'll be able to tune the fucker. lol.

I told him to throw in the ID2000's and give me a 28psi/9k rpm tune. I must admit I waffled a bit about just going for 32psi but I want to drive it a while and make sure that everything is sound before I go for a max tune.

Murlo26 06-07-2010 05:57 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
32psi would be so much fun though :waterski:

Murlo26 06-07-2010 05:59 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
One thing I never thought about really for you...is that you are doing road courses...you should really get a surge tank setup with all the fuel starvation issues people have seen.

mlomker 06-07-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 343553)
you should really get a surge tank setup with all the fuel starvation issues people have seen.

I've deferred some decisions until I decide what my 'thing' is. This is my first sports-car and I just haven't had time to figure that out.

It's not a big deal to dump a 5gal can in the tank after each session for now.

mlomker 06-07-2010 11:18 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Now I'm wondering if my oil burning (and dipstick spitting) is related to the catch can setup.

I did some research online but there doesn't seem to be a lot of consensus on how to configure them. I'm thinking that I might need to drill out the stock PCV valve and put an inline check valve on the outlet port of the can. Have to find someone that knows how to set that up right...

goodhart 06-07-2010 11:50 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Kracka vents FTW! Scheides would know how to hook all that up, he had them on his VIII.

t-revzr 06-07-2010 11:51 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 343613)
Now I'm wondering if my oil burning (and dipstick spitting) is related to the catch can setup.

I did some research online but there doesn't seem to be a lot of consensus on how to configure them. I'm thinking that I might need to drill out the stock PCV valve and put an inline check valve on the outlet port of the can. Have to find someone that knows how to set that up right...


We were talking about this when you were on the dyno. I think Scheides said it looked right tho...

scheides 06-08-2010 12:05 AM

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Could def ditch the stock PCV's for some Kracka Vents, these things are magic. I'll look at my car and see what the stock PCV's are like, I'm sure there's a way to circumvent them. If nothing else, you could put the KV's inline with them.

mlomker 06-08-2010 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 343624)
I'll look at my car and see what the stock PCV's are like

Would def appreciate that. The only one that I'm aware of screws into the valve cover (passenger front of it). Unless that Boomba can has a built-in check valve then the intake is probably pressurizing the can right now. I need to check that the next time I'm at DB.

The Kracka vents install inline on one of the hoses? I haven't ordered them yet...want to figure out what I'm going to do first.

mlomker 06-08-2010 08:25 AM

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Shane got my car on the dyno super late last night. He said it's "better" than it was but the progressive pump still allows too much back-flow when compared to a dual GSS342 setup. Said he could only get 200hp without the second pump turned on.

I'm tired of dinking with it. BlaqOPs has a Hobb switch in the mail so I'll just convert to the tried-and-true method. It looks like the progressive pump only works in the stock pump housing because the Y connector that he uses on that setup doesn't produce the back-pressure that the Full Blown housing does.

scheides 06-08-2010 08:54 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 343668)
Would def appreciate that. The only one that I'm aware of screws into the valve cover (passenger front of it). Unless that Boomba can has a built-in check valve then the intake is probably pressurizing the can right now. I need to check that the next time I'm at DB.

The Kracka vents install inline on one of the hoses? I haven't ordered them yet...want to figure out what I'm going to do first.

Yup you'd just put the Kracka Vents between the catch can and IM, to keep pressure in the IM but allow vacuum to suck air from the crank case/valve cover. Talk to kracka before ordering, I bet he can get you them direct at a good price ;)

Checking on the boomba can would be easy, just pull both of the hoses and blow through the one going to the IM. If you can feel *any* air coming out of the VC side, there's no checkvalve in there, and that's bad. The stock PCV can do some, but a beefier setup is def nicer.

Murlo26 06-08-2010 09:44 AM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 343669)
Shane got my car on the dyno super late last night. He said it's "better" than it was but the progressive pump still allows too much back-flow when compared to a dual GSS342 setup. Said he could only get 200hp without the second pump turned on.

I'm tired of dinking with it. BlaqOPs has a Hobb switch in the mail so I'll just convert to the tried-and-true method. It looks like the progressive pump only works in the stock pump housing because the Y connector that he uses on that setup doesn't produce the back-pressure that the Full Blow housing does.

Well that sucks man...hopefully you get this sorted out. I think i heard your car on the dyno when Danny called me at like 8 pm, haha.

Those guys are going to need a vacation soon big time.

mlomker 06-08-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 343672)
Talk to kracka before ordering, I bet he can get you them direct at a good price

I have exchanged a couple PMs with him. I decided to go with another brand since I found some shiny, bling ones. I found some pictures of how they get installed and that couldn't be easier.

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Checking on the boomba can would be easy, just pull both of the hoses and blow through the one going to the IM.
That was the plan! I'm not going to rely on it but I'm curious now because 'Hollywood' on EvoXforums was complaining about his Boomba can blowing up and not getting replaced under warranty. If they are getting pressurized then that would explain it but they have in/out ports on them so there might be a valve there.

mlomker 06-08-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 343681)
Those guys are going to need a vacation soon big time.

The email was at 11:30pm. When it's a two-guy shop then I imagine that vacations are difficult to take...

Kracka 06-08-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 343684)
I have exchanged a couple PMs with him. I decided to go with another brand since I found some shiny, bling ones.

LOL I had the set on my IX powdercoated gloss black.

asshanson 06-08-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 343681)
I think i heard your car on the dyno when Danny called me at like 8 pm, haha.

Same here, I heard a car on the dyno around 8:30, I was really surprised to get a call that late.

Good luck figuring out the fuel pump issues, I hate when stupid issues cause such large setbacks like this.

mlomker 06-08-2010 08:45 PM

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I got the new wiring harness (a Hobbs switch & relay) from BlaqOPs and I got half-way to DB when I remembered something....BlaqOPs had cut off the standard Walbro power connector in the second pump position because their progressive unit uses spades for the power connection.

Damn. I drove back home and just sent an email to Full Blown. I hope LJ can hook me up.

mlomker 06-08-2010 09:34 PM

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LJ has what I need. I'll go to DB after work tomorrow to swap in the new setup.

FullBlown 06-08-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 343867)
I got the new wiring harness (a Hobbs switch & relay) from BlaqOPs and I got half-way to DB when I remembered something....BlaqOPs had cut off the standard Walbro power connector in the second pump position because their progressive unit uses spades for the power connection.

Damn. I drove back home and just sent an email to Full Blown. I hope LJ can hook me up.

We stock a bunch of them. Swing by anytime Mike.

mlomker 06-09-2010 10:39 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Got the dual GSS342 and a Hobbs into the car tonight. We'll see what Shane thinks this time.

Murlo26 06-09-2010 10:52 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
So u got rid of the second pump that Chris at blaqops gave you, the 270 whatever he calls it?

How come?

mlomker 06-09-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 344161)
So u got rid of the second pump that Chris at blaqops gave you, the 270 whatever he calls it? How come?

I can only get 200whp from the first pump due to the amount of fuel that back-flows through the second pump if it isn't running. My car needs more than that before enough boost is there to turn the second pump on. Don't you read my posts on here? haha.

The theory is that the Full Blown hanger produces more backward flow through the progressive pump than you would get from the same setup in a stock hanger (like yours).

Murlo26 06-09-2010 11:08 PM

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I see...gotcha

mlomker 06-11-2010 12:47 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
At the risk of being optimistic, I just leased a second parking spot in my building. lol.

Murlo26 06-11-2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 344414)
At the risk of being optimistic, I just leased a second parking spot in my building. lol.

LOL, good luck ;)

You supposed to be back on the dyno today? Time/day?

mlomker 06-11-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 344415)
You supposed to be back on the dyno today? Time/day?

Whenever he has the time. Last time we talked he was going to do a quick tune on the DW1000's and have me drive it for a week to see if the fueling situation is solid.

If everything is cool then I'll bring it back for the ID2000 tune. Now that Tephra is out I'd like two tunes with a hotter one in the alt map. I'm sure Shane won't have time for that until after the MAP proving grounds event...he's buried over there.

Probably won't need that parking spot for a month but $80/mo is a good rate in my building so I had to snag it.

mlomker 06-14-2010 06:53 PM

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I didn't have much luck with the Rays (dur)aluminum lugs--the first keyed one that I tried to torque down bent and lodged itself in the special socket. These are the more expensive Formula lugs...they use a seven-sided hex key on every lug, so in theory they are more secure and hopefully they can at least be torqued without breaking.

I have some more Rexpeed carbon bits on the way (hood and wheel vents).

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...ormulalugs.jpg

Kracka 06-14-2010 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 344775)
I have some more Rexpeed carbon bits on the way (hood and wheel vents).

A guy down here has the whole array of carbon fiber hood/fender vents, along with the front bumper trim cover thing and it all looks really nice.

mlomker 06-14-2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 344776)
A guy down here has the whole array of carbon fiber hood/fender vents, along with the front bumper trim cover thing and it all looks really nice.

I think Rexpeed is good bang for the buck. I'm waffling a bit about installing the APR splitter vs just buying the black plastic piece (since I have the aero/SSS front end) that I'd need for installing an aftermarket lip.

I've already bought the splitter so I think I'll give it a go but if it ends up being a pita then I'm going to change it out...perhaps order a Varis lip over the Winter months and have it ready to go for the Spring.

mlomker 06-15-2010 01:37 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
My beater just overheated. I suppose it's most likely the water pump but in the past when that was the issue the belt would break...it didn't in this case. After work I'll check the fluid level then maybe try pulling the thermostat? Of course I don't keep SAE tools in the car.

It just figures...

Kracka 06-15-2010 01:44 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Are any of us X guys driving our cars right now? LOL Yours is down, Murlo's is down, Scheides' is in his garage missing body panels, and mine is in today for warranty work...

simulatedwood 06-15-2010 02:11 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 344927)
Are any of us X guys driving our cars right now? LOL Yours is down, Murlo's is down, Scheides' is in his garage missing body panels, and mine is in today for warranty work...

LOL, Mine is being driven..but the having a new Baby in the fam, has restricted it's driving duties to getting groceries, and baby things. It will be resuming it normal flogging on the 24th when I start going back to work. Ha!

Murlo26 06-15-2010 02:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 344927)
Are any of us X guys driving our cars right now? LOL Yours is down, Murlo's is down, Scheides' is in his garage missing body panels, and mine is in today for warranty work...

Sigh, tell me about it, X's are newer but are down more than the 8/9's right now it seems, lol.

mlomker 06-15-2010 02:49 PM

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After some reflection, I realize that I started hearing pulley noise under the hood a good week ago. I figured it was A/C (that I know doesn't work) so I ignored it. Same sort of thing happened with my BMW a few years ago...ignored that sound and it got me.

I'm going to try to limp it a mile to a garage in Eagan. More money that I didn't need to be spending. Ugh. I own two cars but I'm calling around for a rental. Somewhat amusing, but only a little bit.

Murlo26 06-15-2010 02:52 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
As soon as i get my evo running correctly and "reliably" and recoup the costs of the motor build...I am buying a good DD, something relatively new, 2000 and up at least.

Sure my car was just fully overhauled and is working great...but it is still old, so it is a matter of time before something else goes.

Your luck continues, just like mine ;) At least your neck doesn't hurt.

mlomker 06-15-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 344946)
At least your neck doesn't hurt.

What sucks is that water pumps are like $29 (on Internet parts sites). The problem is that I don't know how to replace one and even if I did I probably couldn't do it in some random parking lot here.

It should cost a lot less to fix an American car anyway. It ended up being $800 on the BMW for a water pump, belt, and fluids.

FattyBoomBatty 06-15-2010 10:52 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Just do it yourself and learn how as you go. That's how I learned. Keep it up and pretty soon you'll have a low paying physical labor job like me too!

mlomker 06-16-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty (Post 345037)
Just do it yourself and learn how as you go. That's how I learned.

This would be the perfect car to learn on, too. If I had a garage (or even a driveway), a second car to run for parts in, and a way to trailer it home then I would. The reality is that I'm stranded at home right now and don't have the other two things.

I just got the $800 estimate. Holy shit. Between this bill and the stereo I've doubled the price of the car.

Murlo26 06-16-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 345126)
This would be the perfect car to learn on, too. If I had a garage (or even a driveway), a second car to run for parts in, and a way to trailer it home then I would. The reality is that I'm stranded at home right now and don't have the other two things.

I just got the $800 estimate. Holy shit. Between this bill and the stereo I've doubled the price of the car.

This is the shitty part about owning a cheap car...things are just waiting to break.

i hope i luck out on mine...the body damage from the accident is ghetto fixed and i spent 400 on parts to fix all the maintenance stuff.

Why is it so much to fix? Seems awfully high. Just labor?


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