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And electric blow off whistles.
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I have a somewhat choppy copy of the news story if anyone wants it. IM me.
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LOL, nice one,
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So did they show coverage of the Cop slamming the but end of his Gun into one of the Racers while he was face down in the Ground? (knocked the kid out and the side of his skull is mushy now?
It was one of the guys over on mnracing. He was sitting crosslegged on the ground and a cop was yelling at him from across the street to lay face down.... but he didn't hear it until the cop was walking up towards him... as he was turning to face the ground the cop was tapping him in the side of his head yelling at him for not going face down faster. Then he hit him with the butt end of his gun. and knocked him out.. His friend that was laying next to him was like WTF, 4 other people saw it and all of them were trying to get the guys Badge number but, he wouldn't give it and another cop came over and told the officer to walk away, etc. I bet that never made it to the air either! |
that's whack..
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Personally, I have no problems with police. My brother is a cop in Lakeville and I am friends with several cops. But for every good cop, there are 2 asshole cops. Some police officers just look for shit to hit you with. All we ever hear about is how bad we are... but what about the police brutality cases? Why do so little of those make the air? Hmmm....
Is it because the media has probably been "influenced". No in a bad way but def. indluenced. The public does not want to hear about cases of police brutality because they want to feel at ease with our men in blue. But all they want to hear about is how bad we are and what the popos are doing to stop it. Yes, if you race, thats your problem. Don't whine when you get caught. No shit. But when they give you stupid, meaningless tickets to meet their quota... thats when shit goes bad. Cops aren't all good. Kiel... I'm sure you know some dickhead cops yourself... so don't say there aren't any. |
The whole media coverage was pathetic... I was however very surprised to hear the car count of 400... jeez... can I say "Fast & Furious". What a waste of tax-payer money. Oh and the thing about the cop hitting the guy, that's a regular thing. Just never reported or caught on tape, here in MN. Peace.
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If anyone got wrongfully struck then they should file a lawsuit and hopefully things will get sorted out properly by the system. I am sure they don't a lot of the time, but you might as well try. You can always start writing lots of letterers and editorials to officials and newspapers.
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word, i take responsiblities for my actions. holla
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"Sure it sucks to get tickets, but it sure is nice when one is there when you're in need of help"
Ok, so if your in dire need of help and the police are sitting there giving stupid tickets for no front plates, speeding, and other pointless traffic violations then i guess your not gonna get much help. The Orange County Sheriffs Department in california here has stated that they are telling the police officers to not pull as many people over anymore because there are many more uses for this cops that are spending more and more time pulling kids over and searching cars. Why cant MN do this? ive met maybe 4 good cops in my life, the rest are assholes, including JDM (jk). ive seen people getting beaten by cops, ive been yelled at for just buying gas at the mobile station (which i could bet that it was the same cop that hit the kid with the butt of his gun, because he wouldnt give me his badge number either). Honestly the majority of minnesota dont know shit and are on a power trip, do you know why you dont ever hear, wow there are a lot of good cops stopping people out here today, its because the good cops are the ones that help people, not put them in shitty situations over money and insurence, they hand out a ticket any chance they get and not realise what it does to the citizens they are supposed to protect. I will NEVER respect any traffic cop, they are the lowest forms of life on this planet. ok i know that being a little harsh but i think MN cops are the worst police ive ever seen. |
i know the flagger in the jersey with the seR vs. civic race.
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so i know i have met my fare share of pigs in my day, but my buddy just got pulled over for illegal tint today it was like 1% over the limit so he has to get it all taken out of his car he has had it in his car for like 2 weeks, and he was just bitchin about everything. i still think that one of the funniest thing i have ever heard was when my buddy got pulled over for illegal paint!! LMFAO it was the funniest thing i had ever heard any way damn that is funny. any way i have to say cops are allways on an ego trip!!!! allways... cops suck no offence to anyone on this site!!! and they always will!!!
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A couple buddies and I were walking thought CUB foods to get his mom some Cough Syrup and we're laughing and joking around with eachother and then the next thing I see is my buddy Mike pinned up against the freezer by some cop. He has him by the shirt just SCREAMING at him for stealing (which he didn't) and wounldnt let go of him. He is talking to him respectfully-- "I'm sorry officer, I don't know what you're talkign about, I did'nt steal anything! Honest! I'll even unload my pockets..." "Don't you get fucking smart with me! I know you did... I saw you." He finally let lossened his grip and Mike unloaded all of his pockts on the floor and showed him he didnt steal the DVD. "Where'd you throw it then?" At this point the store manager comes up and askes what the commotion is about and directs all of us into the AP room. We watch the video tapes of us walking into the store and grabbing the cough meds and walkign around. We came no wehre near the movies. The damn cop didn't even apologize and walked out. WTF???
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Thats what I hate most about cops. They think they have all the authority. I've seen plenty of them use their flashy lights just to get pass traffic. Then there are those who are mean as f*** to you when you're trying to be on their good side. I had this lady pull me over for turning on an orange (after I flicked off some tow truch guy who flicked me off also)...I was really nice to her and all I got back was "WHY DID YOU FLICK THAT GUY OFF?" and yadee this and yadee that. Then I told her that I had the right of way still and she was like "YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS TO COURT, I"D BE HAPPY TO. I GET PAID TIME AND A HALF." At that point I was just like...screw this, if I keep hearing her yell at me I'm going to do something I'll regret. And sure enough I was on the verge of driving all through town to find her car and smash the crap out of it....but I got over it soon enough..haha. And They always have their excuse "I'm just doing my job." You dont kill people for just sticking their hands in their pocket to grab some i.d. or anything unharmful. Like that black kid who got killed when he was unarmed. The cops always get away with murder or breaking laws...wtf.
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Let's just drop everything that is off the subject of the new story.
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That story was ghey.
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I saw the whole show, and thought why not start my own club for racing. I know some very good places (not in St Paul) to race. To join, I would have to know you, and you would not know where the race would take place, until the last minute. To race your car must be 12 sec or faster.
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are you kidding me?
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Ya, I don't have time for that shit, I'm 31 with a kid.... Unless the cars racing are 9 sec cars and we race at 2:00am, but than I couldn't race, dam oh well.
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The police officer hating has to stop. Sure there are crooked officers, there are crooked EVERYTHINGS in every profession, most of the time they are just trying to do there job. IMO is a very stressful and dangerous job, and most of the time im grateful that they are there. I've had my fair share of tickets, and I do complain, but then all the times i've been let off, or helped by a police officer make up for it. If you play the street racing game, your days are numbered, plain and simple. Until a track gets open in minnesota metropolitian area, it will always remain this way. Then im sure people will still street race because they 'cant afford the track, can't go when its open, the track isn't open enough, street racing is more badass, just fill in the blank'.
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NO NO Josh, it's ok... I LOVE the stories:
No one ever has any first hand stories like Tom, it's always just: "My buddies dad", or "This one guy I used to know". I sit back and realized that sometimes you may get pulled over for something you may not have realized you were doing, but all you dumbasses who say that cops pull people over for no reason are wrong. Forget trying to screw you into a ticket, everytime the lights go on, I can't think of ANY officer I've met that won't call out traffic (meaning he calls dispatch to tell them he's on traffic.) And every time you use your computer (MDT) to run a plate, dispatch sees it anyway. It's an officer safety thing. I don't know you from shit, and if you're going to shoot at me, I'm the one going home tonight, NOT you. And if it's found an officer is making bad traffic stops, he is usually put on probation during an investigation, at which time he's usually fired. I've only seen it happen twice. I don't doubt it happens, but I do doubt it happens as much as everyone says it does. "Illegal Paint???" Come on.... You're bitching to the wrong crowd. The Police Supervisor and Internal affairs cares, Not us. BTW, I'd say over 75% of departments around here use onboard dash cameras, which are all digitally archived and reviewed by supervisors... |
You dont kill people for just sticking their hands in their pocket to grab some i.d. or anything unharmful. Like that black kid who got killed when he was unarmed. The cops always get away with murder or breaking laws...wtf.
But there are those really cool cops out there, but thats rare to find in this city.[/QUOTE] You want me to explain that to you so you KNOW what happened now?? The "BLACK" kid who "didn't" have a gun actually "did" have a gun. He was running from Police with a gun in his hand. When he was out of police sight, he dropped the gun. Seconds later, he reappeared with his back to officers, at which time he turned around quickly with something in his hands, which wasn't a gun, but officers assumed was due to the fact that seconds later they had seen him with a gun in the same hand. They opened fire. Now... I see this as: 1) Don't run from the cops if you didn't do anything wrong 2) Don't run from the cops if you didn't do anything wrong. 3) For God Sakes, if the cops have seen you with a gun, but you threw it away, but still have something in your hands, and you quick turn at an officer, he's gonna shoot the hell outta you. I will admit that he "IN THIS INSTANCE" could have gambled on his life and won, and not shot the kid at the same time. But if it's shoot or be shot at, You would be lying if you said you'd take a bullet to save some random life who was threatening others and was deemed to be carrying a gun. Not me. Just like it's my fault that you guys street race and we are forced to make arrests and give tickets. Like it's no big deal. Well it is. It pisses people off, and we're here to serve the people. Put your damn front license plate on, buy yourself a scanner, a radar detector, quit speeding, and get your "Buddy who knows this one guy who used to be a cop" to sit at the end of the block and watch for cops. And if you still get tickets, then it's your own damn fault. |
I love the Minneapolis police!
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Im with JDM. Ive never been pulled over yet and Ive been driving for over 4 years so far.... I drive where everyone else does too and I speed most of the time but I am carefull and respect laws... I have a front plate and I dont street race so the Police must be pulling people over for the right reasons.
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Im not a fan of most cops but there have been a few that are decent. My problem is most are on a powertrip. Another Evo owner in Wi got a ticket for obsruction of rear view vision because of his STOCK spoiler. Figure that one out. The judge ruled against the defense (Said the cop was right). So its not just cops that are corrupt.. judges too. Funny thing is you only need a mirror on each side of the car if you have NO rear vision (Like a cargo van). He is having to appeal the courts decision to an appolate court. Figure that out.
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[QUOTE=niterydr]The police officer hating has to stop.QUOTE]
I agree. The police can be very helpful at times, but there are always those complete opposites. I didnt mean to piss anyone (JDM) off or anything...I just heard the wrong story of that kid being shot so thats what I went with. I get a little carried away sometimes..haha. Back to the main topic... For everyone who was there watching and got their names and license plate taken down. What do they do with all the info from the 400 cars that were there? Are they putting it into some sort of computer for future references? |
They record names and LP#'s, run everything for warrants, and frequency (how many times these plates are recorded).
This is what you can expect next year: Tracking VIN's on Engines for stolen hits (make sure you Honda boys buy a clean motor next year, or it becomes property of the SPPD, and you can buy it back at next years auction) MODS: Make sure ALL of your parts have DOT legal stamps on them, or lose em' and your car. YOU WILL LOSE YOUR CAR NEXT YEAR IF YOU HAVE ILLEGAL MODS.... They're passing legislation in certain jurusdictions on PARTICIPATING in street races. This includes being there to watch... Reporting mods and participation (see above) to insurance companies. If you're there, and you get a ticket for spectating, rest assured that your insurance company will know by next week. I'm not saying that street racing is a bad thing, but it's definately wrong by definition. By participating in it, you are breaking the law. Plain and simple. I'm sorry that you guys get cops on power trips. Typically they lay into younger kids because in MY experience, I get A LOT of lip from people under the age of 25 AS A RULE... I'm not much for small talk either. I'm there to do a job. If I get called to bust racing, I'm gonna write tickets, and I'm not gonna stick around to shoot the shit. And if you throw me enough lip, or try to fight, you might find yourself washing pepper mace out of your eyes when you get home from jail... But as a rule, I could care less what the hell you do with your cars as long as you aren't hurting anyone. Just keep in mind that you're still breaking the law... |
Who wants to bet NONE of this will be enforced with old muscle cars?
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We stopped 2 Mustangs and an Old Firebird for racing on 280. Saint Paul's big beef with racing is the gangs and stolen parts. When was the last time an asian gang stole a 350 Small block??
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How extensively will this DOT stuff be taken? Is that mainly for taillights and clear corners or what?
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Yea are they going to crawl under my car and look for a DOT sticker on my exhaust? Or like other engine parts? Or rip apart my headlights to get to my non DOT H4 bulbs?
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"Gee officer, I don't know where my cat went."
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Just remember boys respect your rights, dont open your hood until a search warrent is issued. and before JDM replies with "they can search if they have resonable suspicion" yes they can but they need to list each item they are looking for and if they find more they cant charge you for it, same thing if they search your car and find drugs, if they didnt state EXACTLY what they were looking for then the charges will be dismissed in a court of law.
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Everytime I go to a thread about Cops, and i see that Tom is the last to reply, I think to myself everytime "This should be interesting"
DOT legal tail lights (the emblem is on the lense), DOT tint regulations, catalytic converters, Reasonable db levels for exhaust, colored bulbs (which ARE NOT legal in MN, I don't care what your "dad's buddy" said), neon, loud stereo, shit like that... Here ya go Tom... Strait from the Horses' mouth The fourth type of exception is the administrative searches and inspections exception. These are warrantless searches by government investigators determining whether government rules and regulations have been broken (Federal Emissions Regulations, Federal Lighting Restrictions, State and Local Environment laws, Equipment violations, Illegal or unsafe or non properly installed equipment). The police do not typically conduct these searches. However, there are stipulations with this exception such as health, SAFETY, or other inspectors may not go onto private property without either consent or a search warrant, this also applies to the search of commercial structures not used as private residences. However, searches of highly regulated businesses do not need a warrant or probable cause. The fifth and sixth exceptions are the stop and frisk exception, and the motor vehicle exception. The stop and frisk exception must carry reasonable suspicion and the frisk cannot go beyond a pat down. The motor vehicle exception simply states when a vehicle is pulled over and the police officer has probable cause, he/she may search the vehicle, but within reason. courtesy of: http://www.wadsworthmedia.com/discus...tml?1056366288 You have the right to refuse consent, but if the officer has probable cause, the search can still be conducted, and the officers conduct and reasoning shall be decided and judged upon in court, rather than risking obstruction and resisting charges upon arrest. Go ahead and ask me about my search warrant, and I'll give you two more pieces of paper for you to bring to your court date. You don't win against cops by taking them head on, Tom, you win in court. |
I would've still lost in court...but it was my word against her word and my chances were "small" because she was a cop and I am just a teenager. So I took the one-year probation, which kinda sucks. Oh yeah...JDM, if I took that one-year probation deal...is my traffic violation on my record as of right now? (I'm still a little angry at that cop lady, she told me one thing...but didnt write it down on her sheet and then she changed her story. Why dont they make us write down our side of the story at the time we get pulled over? That way, the story cant be so easily changed.)
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Sorry, this has gone waaayyyy off the topic. If you want to start another new topic about cops/laws, go for it. This one's being closed down before it gets to out of hand. Sorry.
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