Holy god...

Yeah it looks like the STi holds up well too.

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Some people should stick to driving tanks like an old buick or soemthing.

well at least it's good to see what the thing looks like if something bad were to happen... WTF ... Did you guys happen to see the pics of the tool who accidentaly drove the Evo through the showroom glass?? Starts it in the show room... Thinks he has it in neutral... then revs it to 6k and drops the clutch.... oops.

Hey RacedGuy... do you have those pics??

Do you know what kind of engine problems they're havin' with the STi??? :stick:

I went and checked out the EVO site and I guess there are quite a few in the upper 11's close to stock and a couple at mid 11's. I don't know where the subies are, some one else will have to chime in.

They did already notice a rust problem on the new EVO's. Where the bumper supports meet the body they are already rusting. There is a pic on there that shows a line of them on the dealers lot and they all have rust spots on the pavement below these spots.

I might wait a year or two before getting a new one.

Linky Deal

That rust is really bad... sorry but my evo vote is gone. Cars are not supposed to rust like that even within 2 or 3 years....

The rust isnt as bad as alot of people are making it out to be, the only spot is behind the bumber support in the rear, and ist barley even surface rust. Not something to worry about at all. :bounce:

Also where the frame joints connect... look at that forum closer. There are pics of one car that has unibody rust where the frame connects to each other. In 5 years those evos are going to be like swiss cheese... well atleast the bumpers that are plastic wont...

This might be a good car for Raptor as weight weduction will not take very much time and yoou dont have to do anything. ;)

I checked my car and it has no problems with the rust issues??? THis is ryan, just putting in my thoughts, :toast:

Rust is free weight lose :)

Anyone bother to find out the other variables of how these cars will match up in 10 years when they are btoh used.

I think I read somewhere it's like comparing a civic and and an escort when new. Same playing field, but 10 years down the road whos still gonna have a running car?

THIS IS KIEL AGAIN... RYAN USE YOUR OWN LOGIN NAME...

Aj that is probably one of the best points I haven't thought about... I am planing to sink some money into this thing... I guess I should see if it will still run in 5 years...


And yes that rust is bad... WTF?? :razz2:

i would wait a year or two before you get either. if they pull either of the cars after a year, good luck trying to get parts and trying to sell it at a later date, resale value might be pretty low. i don't think subaru will pull the sti, but mitsu is unpredictable.

THIS IS KIEL AGAIN... RYAN USE YOUR OWN LOGIN NAME...

Aj that is probably one of the best points I haven't thought about... I am planing to sink some money into this thing... I guess I should see if it will still run in 5 years...


And yes that rust is bad... WTF?? :razz2: [/b][/quote]
Yeah I pulled it out of some magazine. lol

Hey thanks a lot guys... you fuckin rule... If you have more input... please feel free... I still have a few months to make a decision... :banana: :bounce: :banana:

I would go with the evo. The sti has some motor problems aka easy to blow up as with all wrx's ( I have heard) they do have rust issues but you could get a anti rust or whatever it is called spray on the underbody and bumper joint to fix that. ( I don't know what it is called but i think it is kinda like a clear coat the prevents rust...) Or you could just keep the car really clean... yeah right!

Yeah, you can get them undercoated. Ziebart does it along with others. Subaru's are known for blowing up 2nd gear. I have heard the Sti's is stronger, but I would check into it.

What kinda bolting procedure do they use on the Evo??? Like JET... you c-w'd a 6 bolt... What kinda shit do they throw at the Evo??

The 6 bolt crankwalking was totally the rebuilder's fault. He didn't do the necessary steps. The EVO is a 7 bolt, but the bottom end is supposed to be more stout than a 2g. I don't think I would be worried about anything engine wise on the EVO, or the tranny for that matter.

yeah i was told the rods are 92.5+ sized, but i was told that AMS is making 525whp on their stock evo motor.

Please tell me you fellow's DSMers are not even having a debate over these 2 cars. EVO all the way, Subaru's can blow me.

Give an EVO a 2.5 liter and lets see how the standings sit.

And yes AMS is currently making 525 whp on their EVO w/ their new T3/t4 kit, not to shabby. Im sure it'll cost a pretty pennt, but you're not gonna get no 500+ hp Subaru for anything less than double that.

Nick

Nuff Said. 4G63 4 LiFe

#1 I have no brand loyalty. I'm a consumer with a checkbook just like everyone else, and I refuse to limit myself to the options available from one brand. If the SRT-4 had AWD and cost 5k less than an evo, I would buy it. I don't care if someone says "it's still a neon", anyone who says that is a closed minded, block headed retard.

#2 I know better than to try and defend a Subaru on a DSM board. Especially when compared to an EVO.

#3 Right now, I don't think I'm going to buy either of these cars. At least not for a few years. I'll go buy a nice Lexus or BMW for my daily driver. :bs:

One thing I don't like is when people say "I heard this, about that car". Maybe it's true or maybe it's not. If it is true, try finding some info on it, before you post it. I could say that I heard the Mazda rotary in the RX8 sucks ass, but would anyone believe me? If I posted a link to an RX8 forum that had several members who had to take thier car back to the dealer within 2,500 miles to get a new motor, then you might believe me. So PLEASE!!!! If you're going to say something like "I heard that Subaru engines get blowed up", post a link, or give some real meaningful info. If they really do blow up easy, then I'm sure there's a forum out there with a guy telling everyone how he blowed up his scooby.

Thanks ;)

Heres a link to show the EVO block.


EVO block

Full girdle stock, gotta love that! That should kill any worries about crankwalk due to misaligned crank bearings. I don't suppose the full girdle can be put into a 6 bolt? Anyone???

2G 7-bolt block has a 1 piece girdle also.

Really?!? I didn't know that!

1G 7 bolts do too.

OLD THREAD!

but i wonder which ones more sexy looking
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/sahmto...dsti_rear1.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/sahmto...ti_front_2.jpg


I was a huge fan of the STi (looks wise) but damn, that evo is nice. to hard to judge

Fuck them both, I want the house.

Yeah, really. If I had that house I'd be more happy than i ever would be for any car.

But if i had to pick one of the two cars, it would be the EVO hands down. I don't even have to think about it if someone ask me that question.

Nevermind.

I like dsm's and all but no doubt, I would go with the subaru. It is quicker in the 1/4 mile and I have never heard anything about the engines blowing up. I saw a sabaru lowered today and it looked so gay so if you do get one for god's sake don't lower it. :headache:

How did this get restarted...

Well I'd really like an Evo, but Mr Evo himself says I shouldn't get one. Ass...

Anyhoo, I suppose now that it's six months later, I could use a second opinion on the topic, as now my finanes have come around again...

Get an 03 Cobra instead

The Evo is a race car (especially when you start racing with turns). The STI is one notch below that, but it also means the STI is probably a little bit better for the street and daily driving.