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Goat Blower 04-10-2015 04:12 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
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A//// Guy 04-10-2015 04:15 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
So you flat out believe that we aren't causing any harm to the environment? If not, I will not waste any more of both of our time in talking about this.

1ViciousGSX 04-10-2015 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 454557)

:lol:

tpunx99GSX 04-10-2015 04:22 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
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Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 454556)
Thought I'd add some of my real world experience, so far the only such occurrence in any of these silly threads. Does it have much to do with this thread, probably not. But I explain the effects of CO2 on food to engineers all day, so it's kinda interesting.



Because any useful rebuttal is a waste of time, I was really interested in this topic and read a ton of books about it 12-13 years ago, the arguments and end result hasn't changed since then. It's more fun just to make fun of you guys arguing about this senseless waste of time since nobody's opinion is going to change one way or another. If you believe global warming/cooling/climate change is man-made, no amount of charts, graphs and data are going to sway you otherwise.

Damn, I've already broken my rule about only posting pictures from now on in all political threads. Just seems appropriate. :D

Unfortunately that is the issue. There are people that will no matter what believe the earth is flat. No matter what you tell them. You can give observations of stars, Shadows, and all kinds of evidence to show them, we are a ball. Then when they finally take a trip around the earth, and will say they knew it all along.
"Every great scientific truth goes through Three phases:
First people say it cant be true.
second they say it conflicts with the bible,
third they say it was true all along."
- Neil deGrasse Tyson
More and more evidence will show up and eventually you will realize the truth with the more evidence in stronger and stronger storms, Longer and longer droughts, more and more toxic air.

jeremy1375 04-10-2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 454561)
Unfortunately that is the issue. There are people that will no matter what believe the earth is flat. No matter what you tell them. You can give observations of stars, Shadows, and all kinds of evidence to show them, we are a ball. Then when they finally take a trip around the earth, and will say they knew it all along.
"Every great scientific truth goes through Three phases:
First people say it cant be true.
second they say it conflicts with the bible,
third they say it was true all along."
- Neil deGrasse Tyson
More and more evidence will show up and eventually you will realize the truth with the more evidence in stronger and stronger storms, Longer and longer droughts, more and more toxic air.

+1

Goat Blower 04-10-2015 04:35 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 454559)
So you flat out believe that we aren't causing any harm to the environment? If not, I will not waste any more of both of our time in talking about this.

You changed the wording. Do I believe we are causing global warming? Nope, not one bit. Is it actually happening? Maybe. There is an equal amount of data to argue either point.

Do I believe we are harming the environment in other ways with pollution in general? Yes, absolutely. There are a lot of deadly gases we're emitting that in larger concentrations can cause problems, like smog. I'm all for the cuts we made 40 years ago to corporate emissions and even vehicle exhaust to some degree, unfortunately this whole argument takes it way beyond that to the point of absurdity.

Trogdor 04-10-2015 04:39 PM

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Goat Blower 04-10-2015 04:39 PM

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The earth is flat rebuttal, didn't see that coming. :crapper:

tpunx99GSX 04-10-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 454564)
. There is an equal amount of data to argue either point.

You personify this image i posted earlier.
http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-620/h--...Available.jpeg

THERE IS NOT EQUAL DATA TO ARGUE IT. YOU SIR ARE WRONG>

Halon 04-10-2015 04:46 PM

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The earth IS flat..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5726262.html

"For some time now serious physicists have been pondering the seemingly absurd possibility that three-dimensional space is merely an illusion--and that we actually live in a two-dimensional "hologram."


:)

Goat Blower 04-10-2015 04:46 PM

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Goat Blower 04-10-2015 04:50 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 454567)
You personify this image i posted earlier.
http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-620/h--...Available.jpeg

THERE IS NOT EQUAL DATA TO ARGUE IT. YOU SIR ARE WRONG>


http://troll.me/images/stifler-thumb...-story-bro.jpg

A//// Guy 04-10-2015 04:52 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 454564)
You changed the wording. Do I believe we are causing global warming? Nope, not one bit. Is it actually happening? Maybe. There is an equal amount of data to argue either point.

Do I believe we are harming the environment in other ways with pollution in general? Yes, absolutely. There are a lot of deadly gases we're emitting that in larger concentrations can cause problems, like smog. I'm all for the cuts we made 40 years ago to corporate emissions and even vehicle exhaust to some degree, unfortunately this whole argument takes it way beyond that to the point of absurdity.

I didn't change the wording, read every post in here that I've made regarding humans having a negative affect. Not just temperature change.

I can agree that temps have fluctuated over millions of years. Now correlating the two things long term, is what the issue is for you. Denying that climate may change because of the things you mentioned seems a bit out of reality. Whether its a slow change, or a fast one, something has to happen.

tpunx99GSX 04-10-2015 04:52 PM

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I can do that too.

http://environmental-action.org/wp-c...ge_skeptic.jpg

jeremy1375 04-10-2015 04:52 PM

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Murlo26 04-10-2015 04:53 PM

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Good thread we got going here it looks like.

I like that all my fox news anchor chicks are hot blonds :)

1ViciousGSX 04-10-2015 04:59 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
Preach it all you want. Bottom line is until the "Data" manipulation for an agenda stops, its a moot point. Because as proven, that 97% you keep referring to isn't really 97%.

Goat Blower 04-10-2015 04:59 PM

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1ViciousGSX 04-10-2015 04:59 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 454564)
You changed the wording. Do I believe we are causing global warming? Nope, not one bit. Is it actually happening? Maybe. There is an equal amount of data to argue either point.

Do I believe we are harming the environment in other ways with pollution in general? Yes, absolutely. There are a lot of deadly gases we're emitting that in larger concentrations can cause problems, like smog. I'm all for the cuts we made 40 years ago to corporate emissions and even vehicle exhaust to some degree, unfortunately this whole argument takes it way beyond that to the point of absurdity.

+1

1ViciousGSX 04-10-2015 05:20 PM

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JET 04-10-2015 05:22 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
97% of scientists used to say the earth was flat. Should they have been believed? Real scientists know that anything without 100% evidence is just a theory and can be proven wrong at any point. Our guestimates at previous temps are a rough guess at best.

We have no proof that humans are causing a rise in global temperatures. The temperatures have always varies drastically and always will. We can't prove how much (if any) of an effect we have had on that. I do think we have had a small affect on the change, but I also think it is drastically overstate.

Remember that climate scientists are making money off this, so polling them is probably not the most unbiased poll you can do. Go ask the experts in UFO's if they exist and you will probably get a high percentage also. I just wish more people would think for themselves and not be led around like sheep.

A

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 454567)
You personify this image i posted earlier.
http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-620/h--...Available.jpeg

THERE IS NOT EQUAL DATA TO ARGUE IT. YOU SIR ARE WRONG>


jeremy1375 04-10-2015 06:36 PM

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Thank God for Fox News because schools like Harvard would otherwise lead us in the wrong direction. Listen to this nonsense from the president of Harvard.

"Dear Members of the Harvard Community,

Worldwide scientific consensus has clearly established that climate change poses a serious threat to our future—and increasingly to our present... "

http://www.harvard.edu/president/new...climate-change

jeremy1375 04-10-2015 07:04 PM

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tpunx99GSX 04-10-2015 07:35 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
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Originally Posted by JET (Post 454582)
97% of scientists used to say the earth was flat. Should they have been believed? Real scientists know that anything without 100% evidence is just a theory and can be proven wrong at any point. Our guestimates at previous temps are a rough guess at best.

Until it was measured and proven yes... measured and proven.
Quote:

Originally Posted by JET (Post 454582)
We have no proof that humans are causing a rise in global temperatures. The temperatures have always varies drastically and always will. We can't prove how much (if any) of an effect we have had on that. I do think we have had a small affect on the change, but I also think it is drastically overstate.
A

Funny thing about that is that we actually DO have proof. and measurements. and are still measuring it, and are monitoring it. Funny thing about that eh. We have all these things that float above the atmosphere called satellites, and we even have stuff down here called Tools that measure various elements in the atmosphere. Climate scientists are not just making this crap up. (This is not religion where theories are accepted without proof). There are TONS of resources available that state WHY we know its human made, and not volcanic, or the sun changing etc.
In fact there was a whole assessment done on the very fact that human involvement is a large contributor to this mess
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-re...r4_syr_spm.pdf

goodhart 04-11-2015 12:55 AM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
Soooo, anyone have some spare tires or oil for me to burn? I wanna have a bonfire

tpunx99GSX 04-22-2015 01:39 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
Saw this and thought of you climate deniers.
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...a7&oe=55E469B2

Murlo26 04-22-2015 01:46 PM

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Looks more like pharmaceutical research...how does that help with "Climate Change"?

tpunx99GSX 04-22-2015 02:19 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 454915)
Looks more like pharmaceutical research...how does that help with "Climate Change"?

I was using it mainly as a "You saw on the internetz this, Actual Science Thinks thats cute"
Which is why i used "This REMINDS me of the climate deniers"

Murlo26 04-22-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 454916)
I was using it mainly as a "You saw on the internetz this, Actual Science Thinks thats cute"
Which is why i used "This REMINDS me of the climate deniers"

I know what you were trying to say, just giving ya crap :)

Goat Blower 04-22-2015 02:42 PM

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Someone must be bored today.
http://ourcadegames.files.wordpress....ng-content.jpg

tpunx99GSX 04-22-2015 02:55 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
Ok i will go on, Its earth day so why not.

http://www.troymedia.com/wp-content/...atechange4.jpg

A//// Guy 04-22-2015 03:01 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
Happy Earth Day!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OGV-RBgsqo...PolarBears.jpg

http://mzconsultinginc.com/blog/wp-c...e-is-false.jpg

AwdGSX13 04-22-2015 03:08 PM

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http://rangelife.typepad.com/.a/6a00...787a970c-800wi

jeremy1375 04-22-2015 03:35 PM

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jeremy1375 04-22-2015 03:49 PM

Re: Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.
 
1) CO2 in the atmosphere makes the Earth warmer. Need an example, look at Venus.
2) Volcanoes put 200 million metric tons of CO2 in the air each year. Vehicles put 26.8 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year.
3) If you think global warming isn't being caused by humans, you are ignoring #1 and 2.

Goat Blower 04-22-2015 04:00 PM

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Goat Blower 04-22-2015 04:01 PM

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jeremy1375 04-22-2015 04:05 PM

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tpunx99GSX 04-22-2015 04:07 PM

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tpunx99GSX 04-22-2015 04:09 PM

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