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goodhart 05-03-2014 01:21 AM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Wow that thing is clean underneath

b00sted_spyder 05-03-2014 06:41 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Don't forget to flush the cooler lines!

DSMINMN 05-03-2014 07:10 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 444087)
Wow that thing is clean underneath

As far as rust goes; yes indeed! There is an oil leak has engulfed the entire drivers side of the engine and everything back to about where the transmission starts. Damn "push rod inspection plate"! They all blow out around the sides. This summer whenever I decide to do it I am going to buy an actual metal one. Maybe even one they make with vents holes to run to some type of catch-can.

Besides the "well oiled" front suspension parts the only thing under it is a whole lot'a dirt! Surface rust on the frame too. I need to get under it with a few 80lbs bags of sand blasting media and make everything bare metal then rattle bomb it. Then completely undercoat the bottom. No rust for this truck!

Quote:

Originally Posted by b00sted_spyder (Post 444098)
Don't forget to flush the cooler lines!

All stock lines are getting replaced with 8AN fittings and SS braided line. Along with the front/auxiliary cooler. I will have to flush the transmission heat exchanger however.

Thanks for the input though! I would've appreciated that even more had I been using all the stock stuff!

DSMINMN 05-10-2014 10:22 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Well.....I'm not even sure what to say here. 6.5 miles into having this transmission in my truck the following is what I am left with.


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psd2d412a0.jpg


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psa1129815.jpg


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psea2b2a13.jpg


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps3e1901ae.jpg


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps5970754f.jpg

The pieces look like clutch material which is funny as the transmission has less than 10 miles on it. There was two breaks between those times. Possibly three. Here are the pictures of the top of the valve body.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psbef495ef.jpg


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...pse11d8612.jpg


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps480d3987.jpg


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...pse19f21f3.jpg

As I said, I still don't really know what to say. I'm unsure what to even blame this on. My best bet is that the transmission got over-filled by the guys I had filling it as I kept it in neutral while holding the brakes.

It also doesn't help when I originally started filling the trans the day before this happened, a leak started from the weep hole in the overdrive unit. I later found out the transfer case on my truck isn't exactly the right one. The shaft that comes out of the transfer case isn't long enough to reach the seal pressed into the overdrive unit.

Yep..

DSMINMN 07-15-2014 09:01 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Well last week I went to the guy's house/shop whom is working on the truck. The transmission is FINALLY out after he has been backed up with 6-7 cars and farming on the side. The results are as follows:

He found that the inner pump bolts weren't even tight.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps82ab4c62.jpg

They were so loose the pump just kind of did it's own thing after the pressure nearly rattled the bolts out. The second thing he found was the rear or "second" band was way too tight. Both of these things where what my room mate did. He insisted on doing the torquing since we were using his torque wrench. Well guess what? What good is a torque wrench if you don't use it? Jack ass.

When it came to the rear band he had no clue what he was doing. He just reamed on the bastard. Then again, he didn't know what he was doing at all.

The final issue was an e-clip popped off of the shift lever on the valve body. This was my fault for not getting the clip all the way on. Only after taking the valve body out 5-6 times trying to solve what we all now know was someone else's f*ck up.


So the guy that has it is taking it all apart and making sure that nothing was taken out because of these issues. I'm assuming the band is junk but he hadn't gotten that far when I was there. He also said it might be awhile before he get's to it again. So I'm going on a month with it at his place and nearly 5-6 without being able to drive it any more than 6.5 miles with a half working transmission. There was and had been no offer to help as far as money goes from the kid that "helped" me.

I just think it's "hilarious" that someone can offer to help you then ignore what you tell them to do when it is your vehicle, your transmission and your new parts...all your money. Then f*ck up and essentially cost you more money and a lack of a vehicle. Then they just respond "So we both f*cked up?" when they hear that they did something major but you also missed a $0.50 e-clip. Yeah, no! It's all good. What would've taken me an hour max to fix (e-clip) ranks just as high as over tightening a band and not even touching the pump bolts. What's $5,500+ dollars?!?! As long as it's someone else's money!

That's my rant for the day.

b00sted_spyder 07-15-2014 10:51 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
How much is this guy taking apart your tranny charging you?

DSMINMN 07-16-2014 12:14 AM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b00sted_spyder (Post 447218)
How much is this guy taking apart your tranny charging you?

That's going to be the fun part. He charges normal rates..maybe a tad bit higher because he is the only person in my hometown that works with transmissions; specifically automatics. There aren't any close towns that provide such services either so yeah..understandable.

My dad and uncle however own a body shop (for those that do not know). Often times they have to have vehicles fixed mechanically as they are a body shop. They'll install some things but..you get the idea. They use this guy that has my truck quite a bit and have started doing more business with him. He's a good guy and knows his stuff. He's very honest as well.

If he quotes you one thing but it ends up being another and possibly cheaper, he'll tell you, explain and show as well as charge you less.

So considering that, I am hoping to get a little break from his walk-in. Another factor however is that he hauled my truck with his rollback C5500 or C6500 from Bemidji to Wadena..or Verndale I guess. So approximately 90 miles.

The bill is going to hurt but what else am I to do?

DSMINMN 07-21-2014 03:14 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
With the BS going on concerning the transmission I thought I'd make something useful while I still don't have the truck.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psf3c6f366.jpg

Terrible picture. I did indeed whip out a potato to take that one. You can faintly see where I am going to cut the "cross" out. Then remove the mesh and strip the chrome..hopefully. I haven't found a sure fire way online to get the chrome off. I know brake fluid will do it but common; who can afford to buy enough brake fluid to fill a container big enough to fit this thing in it? lol

I'll get a better picture for everyone and you can give me your opinions..or not. Whatever works. lol

Also, here is the mesh I plan on using after I cut that inner lip out.

http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/APSA70011H.htm

They won't let you save the pictures from their site so just take a gander. Not cheap stuff.

DSMINMN 12-06-2014 02:30 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Haven't updated this in a bit; lol! I've had the truck awhile. It's still doing work, pulling anything and everything like no one's business; still no pussy mobile. LMAO Nothing really major besides my $100 junkyard front bumper. I really have to finish that grille I started..


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps419cdac3.jpg


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps97943f24.jpg


It's pushing some nice low boost numbers now. This pic was this summer. Now she pegs 34 no issue. Time to get a bigger gauge and start planning around that.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps0096e211.jpg


Besides that she's still great. Worse thing now is the front end. Real shocker there, huh? Oh well. Can't expect to haul damn near anything and not keep some sort of maintenance going.

DSMINMN 12-06-2014 02:41 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Almost forgot; this is probably distance future stuff here but I figured I'd throw it out there. I'd like to make a nice headache rack for this thing. Just simply because there are nice ones out there but for the price they're not worth it for me. Plus you seem to have to sacrifice one thing for another when buying from a manufacture.

It doesn't stop there though. I would also like to build an incorporated roof-rack or some call it "safari" rack..? I don't know. Either way I'd like it to be removable if ever I feel the need. Over-all I just like the idea of having more storage space outside the vehicle and more room inside for people and the like.


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psa7f1d401.jpg

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psa7b63aec.jpg

Obviously the two pictured are flat beds which makes this whole idea a little harder to accomplish. I still think I can make it happen however.

What're some opinions?

dsmDolney 12-06-2014 09:17 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Needs some tow mirrors....
My buddy has a 12 valve and loves it although 5th gear went out last week

DSMINMN 12-06-2014 10:24 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmDolney (Post 451199)
Needs some tow mirrors....
My buddy has a 12 valve and loves it although 5th gear went out last week

I agree it does. I think it would fit into the color scheme as well as make the truck look a little newer. Same with wheels I feel; in due time!

His fifth gear nut come loose? That's the one downside to the NV4500.

dsmDolney 12-06-2014 10:35 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Some wheels and color matched mirrors would make the truck look good. Im not to much of a fan on fender flares but not my decision.
My buddys also getting the tranny looked at thia week sometime so well see i guess

DSMINMN 12-06-2014 11:28 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
My rear fenders were beat up as this thing has been a farm truck for most of it's life. Some day I'd like to upgrade to the better and bigger style pocket fender flares as well. With larger wheels, tires and the 3 inch lift I am going to get it will be perfect.

Also a three inch lift is the max one wants to go while still retaining the ability to tow. So that's what I'll be shooting for just for practicality.

dsmDolney 12-07-2014 08:02 AM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
When you get the other flares and wheels on you shouod color match the flares also haha im a big fan of color matched everything on trucks

DSMINMN 12-30-2014 02:40 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
You guys think I should sell this and get a new Durango? Hear they are like, it, bruh. LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmDolney (Post 451205)
When you get the other flares and wheels on you shouod color match the flares also haha im a big fan of color matched everything on trucks

I'd upgrade to the larger pocket flares before I waste time sanding these down to paint them.

DSMINMN 01-22-2015 09:11 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
I thought I'd put together a list of things I believe the truck needs. So as to maybe work to completing them and informing others as well. Also I want to avoid filling other threads! (;

The first thing I know it needs is a track bar. Almost all of the ball joint have ripped boots. Some don't even have any! So those are also on the list. With the new front bumper I am considering replacing the front shocks as well..just cause. Since I'll be in the general region I'd like to pop for differential cover off and inspect it. If all is good just replace the fluids with something synthetic.

If I am able I will be doing the KDP at this time as well. While doing so I will also be replacing the gasket on the tappet inspection plate/cover. I may buy a billet aluminum cover that replaces the easily bent and leaking factory one. A few other "pluses" to the billet one is it does not require a gasket and it has a breather port! Gotta' love that.

Since these things will take a little bit of time I will also look into replacing the rear diff. fluid as well as the transfer cases fluid.

b00sted_spyder 01-22-2015 09:56 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Oh Dodge, i hate your ball joints! Have fun. Lol. A customer brought in his $800 lifetime warranty replaceable ball joints to install in his cummins. They were pretty cool. I'm assuming you have an open diff up front? I believe they should just be adjusters just like the rears. Check to make sure your axle joints are still good while you're there. A cummins just came in today with a cap missing and the joint wore into the yoke. Ridiculous! What kind of tcase is in your truck? I'm guessing a new process 233?

DSMINMN 01-23-2015 03:47 AM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
The front is a Dana 60 & the transfer case is supposed to be a 241-Stand. The guy that fixed the transmission however let me know my transfer case was from a 1 ton as it has a PTO cover. I really should've looked at the damn plate on the thing.

One thing I would like to do as well is replace all of the U-joints. Fronts as well. Wheel bearings too. I had new rotors and pads put on this right when I got it and I just had them reuse the old bearings so I'm sure it's due.

b00sted_spyder 01-23-2015 07:21 AM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
All you'll really see is just the side of the planetary once you pop that cover off on that tcase. Make sure you go with Spicer snap tight joints.

DSMINMN 03-08-2015 02:22 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
I got a little nudge to start on a project I have been sort of putting off for awhile. It was to the tune of oil loss and/or leak(s). lol It had gotten pretty bad. This old girl sure wasn't having it any longer. A buddy and I made a quick trip to Alexandria. About three quarters of the way home my oil pressure light would do a little flicker at me. Then the oil pressure gauge would do the same.

I took the truck straight to my dad's shop and let it sit outside. I checked the dipstick..wayyyy below the "SAFE" mark. My buddy hooked me up with a gallon and I moved it inside. The somewhat "funny" part about this whole ordeal was I had the gaskets and NEARLY everything to do the job. I just was talked out of doing it by my dad. He wanted me to wait a week. Well, the Slute didn't agree.

I started off on the 13/14th of last month.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps9ejt0auj.jpg


After fighting the rad. fan myself for quite awhile my sister's boyfriend came and lent me a hand. It wasn't long and the truck was down to where we could work on it. The things I had planned to fix were as follows; Killer Dowel Pin (KDP), push rods inspection plate gasket and injection pump modification (this last one came later into the project and was pretty minimal).

DSMINMN 03-08-2015 02:45 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
For anyone not familiar with what the KDP is, it's a simple little dowel pin that vibrates loose and can potentially fall into the drive gears. This either destroys your front case and possibly a gear (or two), or you lose an entire engine. There's always the possibility of the pin falling straight to the pan..but its not very likely.

Here's where mine was at. Pretty typical for these.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps4m1pkv19.jpg

Some people just throw tabs over them but I wanted to go a step further. I peen'd that biz-nitch in there.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psb4cgqlq6.jpg

It didn't take us long to see that removing the radiator would make our lives 30 times better. So we jumped on that and got to removing the injection pump. Let me tell you this; the little 'ol P7100 isn't so small!

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psfagzuemt.jpg

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psdyzbmlhz.jpg

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...pstn2nrpgv.jpg

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psbdv7dcxr.jpg

DSMINMN 03-08-2015 02:50 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Once the pump was out I just thought to myself; man, wouldn't it be easy to modify this thing quick. So I did a little looking and found myself a "cheap" and quick mod. We'll see if any of you can spot it. It's located on the outside of the pump and it isn't black. She should jump out at you!

I also checked on my fuel plate to see how it was doing and if it had been modified.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...pspjdq40zy.jpg

GONE! She was gone! lol This explains why I always had the little extra power that I did. I think it's funny. I may still move to an actual plate but they are pretty expensive for what they are.

This is what the pump was blocking.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...pssrwexds5.jpg

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...pswzof5woj.jpg

DSMINMN 03-08-2015 02:55 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Now you all can see why I have put this off for awhile! Hahaha. Not many people are partial to doing this. Some people have the gasket blow out right away and have to replace it again. I pray I don't have to do such a thing! I've already had to redo the gasket from when I first installed it.

A lot of people say to install it dry but I seen a few people use RTV. So I grabbed some grey stuff and yeah. It didn't seal. Instead the gasket fell off at the bottom. This is what I was left to clean off.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psvvnkru3v.jpg

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psxfgfesd3.jpg

YUCK! I got it cleaned off after about an hour or so. Clean as a whistle!

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psfnjc6etd.jpg

DSMINMN 03-08-2015 03:00 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
After all that fun I wanted to wrap the project up. So I decided to put the injection pump back in. All of my "help" had left so it was just me. I would lie; it took my nearly 3 hours to get the pump back in its home. I got it done though!

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps54lmulvc.jpg

From there it was wear ring time! Now cut me some slack here. It was like 2am! While trying to put the wear ring on we realized that there was already a speedi sleeve. I'll leave you guys to see what helped us come to such a conclusion.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psjcqfgfry.jpg

Looks good right?!

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...pslospdrjc.jpg

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps09iiy2ed.jpg

My face...TO A T!

DSMINMN 03-08-2015 03:03 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
After some well needed sleep we gained some logic and got the hoe off. Then got the ol' wear ring on.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psdrj3ioyy.jpg

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...pszc6ktwlr.jpg

I also gave in and made up a tab from a 2" fender washer. Doesn't look too bad for $0.52! One online is around $8!

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psxlrieawz.jpg

DSMINMN 03-08-2015 03:13 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
After we got everything done that needed to be we started hauling ass. Mind you this was the second weekend home from school I had been working on it. I wanted to drive this thing home!

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...pslb8uhhvl.jpg

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...pszbyxu9pw.jpg

When it's done uploading I'll post a video of the first start up after putting it back together.

DSMINMN 03-08-2015 04:04 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UpyGnhdZCc&hd=1

Once we got it running we realized something was iffy. I assumed timing. So I ordered this kit for about $207. Well worth it and I can rent it out now.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psjn2efwsw.jpg

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...pshm7m7gn3.jpg

That's how I left the truck last weekend. I'll get a new video up of the new setup.

DSMINMN 06-25-2015 12:16 AM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
My lame ass never made a video; what a drag! I timed the pump to 15.3° advanced even though I was shooting for 15.5°. It really is quite a procedure! Took myself and my dad probably 8 hours over two evenings to get it down. She runes perfectly fine now.

The only issue is the front end now; joy, right? Looking to order some parts this week and throw them at the hoe to rid this thing of the death wobble I have encountered. So, I'll update then!

Enes 06-25-2015 02:26 AM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Death wobble is horrible on those if you have bigger tires. Steering is as loose as a $2 hoe.. There are stabilizing bars you can get to help it stabilize pump to the frame.

With my old 2001 5.9 ISB CTD 24v i replaced the pump, added lift pump, and tossed on a 4" turbo back and i was getting about 19 MPG city and 27 Highway. With new 6.7 its not broken in yet, only 31k miles. But the thing can't get over 12MPG city and 18 highway and thats if i baby it. So dissapointed in the new Cummins engine :( I miss my old 24v

DSMINMN 06-25-2015 12:17 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Enes (Post 456366)
Death wobble is horrible on those if you have bigger tires. Steering is as loose as a $2 hoe.. There are stabilizing bars you can get to help it stabilize pump to the frame.

With my old 2001 5.9 ISB CTD 24v i replaced the pump, added lift pump, and tossed on a 4" turbo back and i was getting about 19 MPG city and 27 Highway. With new 6.7 its not broken in yet, only 31k miles. But the thing can't get over 12MPG city and 18 highway and thats if i baby it. So dissapointed in the new Cummins engine :( I miss my old 24v

I have a stabilizer bracket installed currently. However all of my tie rods boots are ripped or gone along with the two on my track bar. I'd love to do everything in the front end but damn does it add up. Not having found a job for what I want to school for yet either has taken its toll on my wallet.

I'll more than likely replace some of the larger items then just hope it works otherwise it'll get parked. As far as mileage goes...I've seen 16.5MPG. It was right around the time I finished all of what you seen above. Since then it's been right around 11. I do a lot of short town stop and go junk though too.

I have a buddy with an '10 I believe that loves his. He has around 37" tires and a front bumper like mine as well as a leveling kit and still seems 17 I think.

goodhart 06-25-2015 01:14 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
haha that death wobble gets interesting on the freeway!

DSMINMN 06-25-2015 02:05 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 456389)
haha that death wobble gets interesting on the freeway!

I never experienced it on the freeway nor the highway, thank God. I experienced it once on a side road off of 71 in Wadena that maintains a 50MPH speed limit. It has a low point in the road with a quick dip at said lowest point. She got me good.

Since then the truck has had a constant side to side wobble. Almost hard to notice unless you're driving and paying very close enough attention. The steering is comparably looser now as well. Just more time and money I guess. Yuck.

DSMINMN 07-16-2015 03:23 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
The parts I got towards the end of last month/early this month. Just had the ball joints and front u-joints show up today. One of these weekends is going to be funnnn (not).

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psaynfrzgy.jpg

Enes 07-16-2015 03:51 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
nice, keep it up! the diesel powah !

if you ever go to 24v i have full gasket set top/bottom sitting taking up space :( and ball joints and all new u joints. full set for complete rebuilt. every single one of the sensors on the truck as well as upgraded nozels for 275.

goodhart 07-17-2015 02:00 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
All these trucks had sloppy ass steering. Even when new. My dad had a 97 and a 99 and they both drifted all over the road and had slop in the steering

DSMINMN 07-17-2015 02:38 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 457128)
All these trucks had sloppy ass steering. Even when new. My dad had a 97 and a 99 and they both drifted all over the road and had slop in the steering

After this I'll look into the Borgeson or however it is spelt quick/fast steering gear box, steering shaft and new steering stabilizer bracket (I guess there's a difference over the stock setup.

I'm already converting to a third gen track bar with these replacement parts along with those Maxx end links. It'll be interesting to see how this thing feels when its done.

DSMINMN 08-12-2015 12:47 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Truck should be finished up today or tonight anyway. It will be nice to get the alignment done and get this back on the road. We'll see how quickly it all works though. lol

DSMINMN 01-06-2016 03:57 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
Removed the side exit I made a few months ago for a little update. Didn't get very far at all but I'm working with tools that would make most decide to just give up and buy the $90 Y-pipe.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps2fyeqwde.jpg

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmid0kshl.jpg

More to come after I can find a nice belt sander.

DSMINMN 06-26-2016 08:51 PM

Re: Something that blows black!...kinda'.
 
I think I got a little ahead of myself here.. Backing up.

I finished up the 4" Y-pipe. What a PAIN it is to cut such large pipe on an old worn out chop saw! I had a LOT of gaps to weld up and it took a minute to get the Millermatic 212 back to where I like it to be. It turned out alright. The picture to follow was before I hacked the perforated metal and fiberglass mat behind it out. Probably should've left it in for noise purposes but eh, she loud.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...pshrkhxdvn.jpg


This is the best picture of the exhaust I have taken. Odd as it has been on for quite some time now and this picture was taken Saturday evening.


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...psrrjgm6ap.jpg


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