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niterydr 01-11-2012 02:14 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 398034)
Nice, so you gonna compete in stock appearing class this year?

Depends upon how much side revenue I can acquire. :rollinglaugh:

My "next round" mods list should put the car around 450-500awhp on E-85 easily, which would be fun as it is using TD04 based turbochargers. However that list is expensive and only time will tell. Going to use E-85 and stock sidemounts (unless I can find a cheap FMIC setup) to keep it "stealth"

I am in no rush to complete the project, but some snow would be great for my plowing side job! Otherwise, hopefully there will be some additional tuning/building opportunities this spring as well to supplement this vehicle.

Otherwise, I will be at the proving grounds pit crewing for John's Galant VR4, either way I plan on going.

turbotalon1g 01-11-2012 02:17 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Nice. The bar set from previous years says stock appearing will be 12.0 and quicker.

what you think you could run with that much power?

niterydr 01-11-2012 02:20 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 398038)
Nice. The bar set from previous years says stock appearing will be 12.0 and quicker.

what you think you could run with that much power?

14.0-11.0 @100-125mph depending upon tires, clutch, tune, vehicle final weight, time of day, windspeed, cruising knots (this is a boat still :rollinglaugh:)

Tachyon 01-11-2012 03:17 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niterydr (Post 398040)
14.0-11.0 @100-125mph depending upon tires, clutch, tune, vehicle final weight, time of day, windspeed, cruising knots (this is a boat still :rollinglaugh:)

LOL, I that's about the size of it...

I would suspect the winner of SA this year will be in the 11.2 range, based on conversation from esteemed message boards as this.

niterydr 02-01-2012 01:47 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Picked up a few more goodies over the past few weeks:
Rebuilt V1 AEM EMS
3.5 MAP sensor
AIT sensor
AEM Twin wideband controller
Brass shifter cable bushings
New dash vents

turbotalon1g 02-01-2012 03:48 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Nice.

niterydr 02-01-2012 04:11 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 399356)
Nice.

Yup! Well on my way to 14's now baby :bengals::beer:

niterydr 02-03-2012 05:00 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
More goodies to the build:
3" SS downpipe ordered (shipped)
Deatschwerks 1000cc injectors ordered
Fuel lab "mini" FPR ordered
DW301 pump ordered
AN y-fitting ordered
AEM Wideband sensors ordered
Center Gauges on stand-by

Now for some fabrication (intercooler piping, fuel rails, cat-back), porting (intake manifold, turbine housings, exhaust manifolds), fuel line layout and creation, and a few final pieces to be ordered (boost control solonoid, FMIC) and it is go time! Should be ready by April no problem.

Looks like E-85 + all supporting fuel mods + stock turbo's to start, see if I can figure out a way to upgrade TD04's before the proving grounds, if not, should be "Fun" on the 9b's.

Most I've heard of with 9b's was 379hp/480TQ. Car is thinned out and turns 10.9@124! I won't be anywhere near close to that, in fact I'll be happy with low 12's to start, haha!

AJ 02-03-2012 09:03 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Any plans to do BIR or even some Auto X with this beast? I would think the DCTC course would be fun in this car!

niterydr 02-03-2012 11:21 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ (Post 399495)
Any plans to do BIR or even some Auto X with this beast? I would think the DCTC course would be fun in this car!

I might try the road course at the MAP event and maybe a DCTC event or two for fun. The car WILL NOT be competitive for the mods compared to the class, but I will have fun. :bengals:

The added advantage of increased timing should make for a really torque monster down low.

AJ 02-03-2012 11:58 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
I'd love to see it at DCTC, I think that TQ with AWD would be fun. Need you get you in the Miata at some point this year as well!

niterydr 02-04-2012 01:52 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ (Post 399502)
I'd love to see it at DCTC, I think that TQ with AWD would be fun. Need you get you in the Miata at some point this year as well!

I am down for that!

Halon 02-04-2012 10:56 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Need any -10 SS Braided line by chance? I have like 5' of it I think that I'm trying to donate towards a good cause.

scheides 02-04-2012 11:52 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Very cool! What are you going to tune it with, AEM?

Halon 02-04-2012 12:18 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 399521)
Very cool! What are you going to tune it with, AEM?


Quote:

Originally Posted by niterydr (Post 399333)
Rebuilt V1 AEM EMS


drrrr...

niterydr 02-04-2012 01:47 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 399519)
Need any -10 SS Braided line by chance? I have like 5' of it I think that I'm trying to donate towards a good cause.

I may have a use for that for my oil cooler. PM me what you want for that. I won't be doing the oil cooler until winter 2012 unless it gets in the way of intercooler pipe routing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 399521)
Very cool! What are you going to tune it with, AEM?

AEM with dual channel widebands and virtual dyno. I'll check in on dyno days to check power output as well. Maybe rent an hour if I need to figure out some things.

URV8SUX 02-06-2012 12:41 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Holy mother fucker!!!!!!!!!

I never thought I'd see you in a 3S!!!!!!!!!!!

By reading this I want to see you take down stock appearing class at proving grounds!!!!!!!!

niterydr 02-06-2012 10:41 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Thank you Nate. This one will not have the highway presence the last build had for quite some time.
Stock appearing is the goal, but having parts assembled and a contending car are pretty far apart right now. As the season progresses we will see how this car performs.

Update:
Ordered New 8mm NGK plug wires and MAC Boost control solenoid last night.

turbotalon1g 02-06-2012 12:54 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Sounds like you are gettin the parts in, but u will need more than 12s to win SA.

niterydr 02-06-2012 01:17 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 399553)
Sounds like you are gettin the parts in, but u will need more than 12s to win SA.

Until proven otherwise, this is a 14 second car. The goal is to have fun putting it together, then see what it does. :beer:

turbotalon1g 02-06-2012 07:41 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niterydr (Post 399555)
Until proven otherwise, this is a 14 second car. The goal is to have fun putting it together, then see what it does. :beer:

Sounds familiar. I want to see the before and after of the tune. I know thats usually an amazing difference. :rollinglaugh:

Goat Blower 02-06-2012 08:37 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by URV8SUX (Post 399540)
By reading this I want to see you take down stock appearing class at proving grounds!!!!!!!!

There's going to be lots of competition in that class this year. :D

niterydr 02-08-2012 04:00 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Updated parts list:

Current mods list on the car (and staying):
Quadco Output shaft spool
E2K t-case brace
Mitsubishi Evo 9 BOV
(few other items I will have to sell that were on last summer)

On deck/sitting at my house:
Stainless clutch line from STM (master to slave)
Shifter bushings
Deautchwerks 1000cc Injectors
Fuel Lab "mini" regulator with gauge
Deautchwerks 301 fuel pump
AEM EMS V1 (used/rebuilt)
5 bar Map sensor
GM AIT
Ebay 3" downpipe (non "F" style)
Rear 02 eliminator (ebay)
AEM dual channel wideband controller with new widebands
New dash vents (cracked ones drive me nuts)
8mm NGK plug wires
MAC Boost control solenoid
Russell AN6 Black Fuel filter
Aluminum shifter base bushings
Pioneer 6.5" TS-G1643R door speakers
BCPR7ES plugs
2-5/8" Black face, Silver Ring Stewart Warner Performance Gauges: Oil Temp, Oil pressure, Water Temp, Vac/Boost

Need to order or build prior to final assembly:
Top to bottom flowing FMIC, 2" hot side pipes, 3" cold side (E-85 will keep me cool, I want as little pressure drop as possible)
Intake setup, flirting with a bellmouth/velocity stack setup
Fabricate cat-back exhaust
Make some fuel lines.
Port some stuff.


:angryfire:...die 9b's die...:angryfire:

niterydr 02-10-2012 04:19 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Updated parts list:
Current mods list on the car (and staying):
Quadco Output shaft spool
E2K t-case brace
Mitsubishi Evo 9 BOV
(few other items I will have to sell that were on last summer)

On deck/sitting at my house:Stainless clutch line from STM (master to slave)
Shifter bushings
Deautchwerks 1000cc Injectors
Fuel Lab "mini" regulator with gauge
Deautchwerks 301 fuel pump
AEM EMS V1 (used/rebuilt)
5 bar Map sensor
GM AIT
Ebay 3" downpipe (non "F" style)
Rear 02 eliminator (ebay)
AEM dual channel wideband controller with new widebands
New dash vents (cracked ones drive me nuts)
8mm NGK plug wires
MAC Boost control solenoid
Russell AN6 Black Fuel filter
Aluminum shifter base bushings
Pioneer 6.5" TS-G1643R door speakers
BCPR7ES plugs
2-5/8" Black face, Silver Ring Stewart Warner Performance Gauges: Oil Temp, Oil pressure, Water Temp, Vac/Boost
"Maximal Performance" Solid Motor Mounts
"Seattle" bearing short shifter
Top to bottom intercooler (25x6x3.5" core, 1453cfm, 3" outlet, twin 2.5" inlets)

Need to order or build prior to final assembly:
2" hot side pipes, 3" cold side (E-85 will keep me cool, I want as little pressure drop as possible)
Intake setup, flirting with a bellmouth/velocity stack setup
Fabricate cat-back exhaust
Make some fuel lines.
Port some stuff.

Update:
Pulled out fuel rails and intake manifolds for welding/porting. Pulled intercooler system for resale, ordered intercooler and shifter. Order new motor mounts, old ones are TOAST.
Going to try to pull turbo's tonight, after seeing if the new downpipe fits, looks pretty close!

C3L1CA 02-10-2012 09:31 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Sounds like its going to be an awesome car!

Keep it up and have fun!

niterydr 03-23-2012 01:42 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Update:
Been swamped with work but still plugging away. I hope to get the timing belt and that side of the motor buttoned up as well as get the wide band controller wired in as well as complete the upper engine wire tuck.
Small battery showed up, haven't even unboxed it. Fuel pump is in, need to install new gaskets and mount lower intake manifold + injectors. Then make a few more fuel lines and the fuel system is done.
Still need to do piping work to which John will be heading down and helping fabricate. Hopefully there will be a lot of progress over the next month.

I've decided to run the 9b's. I haven't pulled them off the manifolds and the manifolds haven't been pulled off the engine. If I can get a reliable 350AWHP on E-85 that should be good enough for now. I plan on running a Billet compressor wheel TD04 setup eventually, so to spend money converting 13t's and ultimately spending money again re-working that seems like a waste for a potential 50-150 more hp. To some, they make look at this as giving up on power, but I'd rather spend the money elsewhere such as some PDR work and re-upholstering the interior.

turbotalon1g 03-23-2012 08:37 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Still plan on rocking stock appearing class at PG?

niterydr 03-23-2012 09:21 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Yes, that is the plan.

niterydr 03-28-2012 12:15 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Figured I would update this:

March has been a busy month for work and booking work. Launched a side tuning business to make my offerings more "official". Car finally got some attention last weekend with a new water pump and timing belt kit installed. Found a 20 year old crank pulley, so a new one should arrive Thursday. Also managed to finish installing the ported lower intake manifold, 1000cc injectors, fuel rails, and a few of the fuel lines. Need to mount the FPR, make lines from the rails to FPR and a line from stock feed line to my "Y" to the lines and the fuel system is done in the engine bay. Then one last line at the tank and the fuel system is buttoned up.

Air filters showed up for the intakes today, intercooler piping bends and couplers expected Thursday. The goal is to have a driving car this weekend on pump gas, we'll see how close we get. A lot of fabrication and wiring stand between me and that goal, and that still leaves me plenty to do afterwards (such as pulling dash, gauge installs, etc).

Now to get down to the garage to get some wideband wiring complete, run a wire for my future oil temp gauge, clean up a little more under-hood wiring, figure out the mini battery mounts, and button up the timing belt side sans crank pulley.

Still shooting for reasonable power levels on 92 octane with "MAX POWER" on E-85. I have 13t's here, on the fence if I want to pay to have housings machined and install them, didn't bother pulling the 9b's off the manifolds, I can always do porting and before/after dyno comparisons later.

Big Thanks to John LaCroix (Pushit2.0) on the help this last weekend and the help he will provide this weekend, hopefully get this car out from the back of the garage and to the front of the garage!

Pushit2.0 03-28-2012 02:56 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
One step at a time. At least your project was not a train wreck then mine.

niterydr 03-28-2012 08:54 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushit2.0 (Post 402851)
One step at a time. At least your project was not a train wreck then mine.

Project redemption? It just needs MOAR love.

Moontaxi? Car hauls out like a train!

niterydr 04-02-2012 03:45 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Updated parts list completely installed on car:
Quadco Output shaft spool
E2K t-case brace
Stainless clutch line from STM (master to slave)
Deautchwerks 1000cc Injectors
Deautchwerks 301 fuel pump
"Maximal Performance" Solid Motor Mounts

In process now-Slated for completion by weeks end:
Mitsubishi Evo 9 BOV
Fuel Lab "mini" regulator with gauge
AEM EMS V1 (used/rebuilt)
5 bar Map sensor
GM AIT
E-bay 3" downpipe (non "F" style)
Rear 02 eliminator (e-bay)
AEM dual channel wideband controller with new widebands
New dash vents (cracked ones drive me nuts)
8mm NGK plug wires
NGK 4554 plugs
MAC Boost control solenoid
Russell AN6 Black Fuel filter
Aluminum shifter base bushings
Pioneer 6.5" TS-G1643R door speakers
Alpine Type S 6x9 rear speakers
2-5/8" Black face, Silver Ring Stewart Warner Performance Gauges:Oil pressure, Water Temp, Vac/Boost
Shifter bushings
"Seattle" bearing short shifter
Top to bottom intercooler (25x6x3.5" core, 1453cfm, 3" outlet, twin 2.5" inlets)
2.25" Intercooler piping - hot side
3" Intercooler piping - Cold Side
3" Intakes
Oil Catch Can
BigCranks mini battery


On the list for this summer/after car completion:

Fabricate cat-back exhaust
Stronger Clutch
Oil temp sender for SW Oil Temp Gauge
Ethanol Content Monitor/Display
Larger turbos?

Update:

The crew came down and assisted with a marathon wrench session. John L, the fabrication guru, currently has my downpipe, intercooler, intercooler piping, and front bumper for final modifications. Wednesday is slated to be finalized assembly with a roll over into Friday if need be. Hopefully I'll be out and about for Cars and Coffee this next weekend, pending any further complications.

Thanks again John, Kyle, and Ryan for your assistance this weekend!! The weekend goal was completed, car is now at the "front" of the garage and much closer to running.


...and special thanks to my wife for putting up with this crap!

JET 04-02-2012 04:49 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Looks like lots of work! Nice job guys.

turbotalon1g 04-02-2012 08:29 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Nice progress.

Pushit2.0 04-02-2012 03:03 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
FMIC install pipe routing and fitment on a 3/s while retaining most of the factory components that get in your way, about has much stun as you can have with close on.

Out to the garage for final welding on this stuff.

niterydr 04-02-2012 04:26 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushit2.0 (Post 403215)
FMIC install pipe routing and fitment on a 3/s while retaining most of the factory components that get in your way, about has much fun as you can have with close on.

Out to the garage for final welding on this stuff.

*fixed*

Sorry I am a PITA John, but retaining fog lights, a/c, and everything else was on my list and you nailed it.

For those that don't know, John is a master fabricator and can pretty much pull anything of you ask him for.

FattyBoomBatty 04-02-2012 04:44 PM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niterydr (Post 403221)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushit2.0 (Post 403215)
FMIC install pipe routing and fitment on a 3/s while retaining most of the factory components that get in your way, about has much fun as you can have with clothes on.

Out to the garage for final welding on this stuff.

*fixed*

Sorry I am a PITA John, but retaining fog lights, a/c, and everything else was on my list and you nailed it.

For those that don't know, John is a master fabricator and can pretty much pull anything of you ask him for.

Fixed again. Why did you choose solid motor mounts?

niterydr 04-03-2012 07:29 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty (Post 403225)
Fixed again. Why did you choose solid motor mounts?

Motor doesn't vibrate that much from the factory and I didn't want to deal with it flopping around in the engine bay. Last car had solid motor mounts and a much more aggressive setup and the vibration was minimal.

We've still got errors in the statement above by both parties, LOL!

niterydr 04-07-2012 08:01 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
Updated parts list completely installed on car:
Quadco Output shaft spool
E2K t-case brace
Stainless clutch line from STM (master to slave)
Deautchwerks 1000cc Injectors
Deautchwerks 301 fuel pump
"Maximal Performance" Solid Motor Mounts
Fuel Lab "mini" regulator with gauge
5 bar Map sensor
GM AIT
E-bay 3" downpipe (non "F" style)
Rear 02 eliminator (e-bay)
AEM dual channel wideband controller with new widebands
New dash vents (cracked ones drive me nuts)
8mm NGK plug wires
NGK 4554 plugs
Russell AN6 Black Fuel filter
Teflon AN6 lines in engine bay and at tank
Aluminum shifter base bushings
Alpine Type S 6x9 rear speakers
2-5/8" Black face, Silver Ring Stewart Warner Performance Gauges:Oil pressure, Water Temp, Vac/Boost
Shifter bushings
"Seattle" bearing short shifter
Top to bottom intercooler (25x6x3.5" core, 1453cfm, 3" outlet, twin 2.5" inlets)
In process now-Slated for completion:
Mitsubishi Evo 9 BOV -install with intercooler piping
AEM EMS V1 (used/rebuilt) - to AEM to be fixed
Pioneer 6.5" TS-G1643R door speakers -install
2.25" Intercooler piping - hot side -install
3" Intercooler piping - Cold Side -install
3" Intakes -install
Oil Catch Can -mount and install
GVR4 coolant overflow -mount and install
BigCranks mini battery - Install and make battery ends


On the list for this summer/after this round:

Fabricate cat-back exhaust
Stronger Clutch
Oil temp sender for SW Oil Temp Gauge
Ethanol Content Monitor/Display
Larger turbos?
New tires

Update:


Well John and I were making excellent progress last few days and were just in assembly mode when we hit a snag. The "Rebuilt" AEM EMS I bought from a reputable seller was indeed not rebuilt and having the same problem they were having (5V output on sensor ground). Needless to say the AEM currently is as useful as a brick, so that is going out FED-EX Monday to be rebuilt, hopefully get it back within a few weeks as the lead time is 2 weeks.

Took a few hours to go through the entire engine bay harness and a bench test of the AEM EMS with just power and ground to confirm that it is faulty.

Other than that, a few interior bits to put back, door speakers, intercooler piping to install, intakes to install, drill a hole for each catch can, battery cable ends, and polish some items and we will be on the road!

turbotalon1g 04-07-2012 08:40 AM

Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
 
You guys are working fast!


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