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blackawdtsi 08-11-2011 09:36 PM

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Got the test drive done last night. Changed the oil today and buttoned her up!

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...g/IMG_1101.jpg

Thanks to my wife Christa who put in a couple 8+ hour days and a 13 hour day with me!

The car runs awesome and I'm glad I know exactly what's going on with it now. I've touched just about every bolt in the car and have fixed most of what I didn't like. I didn't re-ring the motor even though the gaps are HUGE because I didn't want to have the block machined (more money, etc.)

I have a T3 GT3582R on the way that should be here tomorrow. I'm debating on whether I want to run this ERL and CRAPPY o2 housing / down pipe configuration. It took me quite a while to get the o2 / dp connected since the flange for it is about 1/2" away from the v-band.

Hopefully we'll make it to the track Sunday and have fun getting kicked out! :spin:

C3L1CA 08-12-2011 07:54 AM

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Nice job on getting it back on the road so quick! Enjoy it

scheides 08-12-2011 08:54 AM

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Looks great! Get a bumper, hood, and a tune on taht thing ASAP, the cookout is close!

Nartanian 08-12-2011 12:10 PM

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That's one clean looking 2G. Nice work.

turbotalon1g 08-12-2011 12:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 389886)
Looks great! Get a bumper, hood, and a tune on taht thing ASAP, the cookout is close!

He doesn't want a hood or bumper, more airflow and cooling.

Nice work getting it done so quick

blackawdtsi 08-13-2011 12:52 PM

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Thanks guys. I picked up my 35R yesterday and the first thing I thought was, "Man, this thing is tiny!" The last turbo I ran that was around this size was a scm61 - about six years ago.

So this should be fun, I'm anxious to have an insta-spool monster.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...g/photo-19.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...g/photo-20.jpg

I also went out and did my first [dozen] pull today. Very exciting until oil sprayed out of my dipstick. I will be buying a real catch can soon.

Constant_Project21 08-14-2011 09:07 AM

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If its too small, ill take it ;). Pretty much the same turbo I would like to run, but with a .82 a/r in some vband hawtness. You got the bigger 1.06 right? Was that divided or undivided? Can't remember :(

blackawdtsi 08-14-2011 09:12 AM

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Yeah I have the 1.06 open. I'm pretty much expecting to have to change exhaust housings, but would like to see what it does. If I do switch housings, I'll switch manifolds also and go twin scroll with both.

GsXtUrBo98 08-14-2011 10:04 AM

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Nice meeting you last night and nice car. Next time tell Christa to out run that piggy! lol

blackawdtsi 08-14-2011 05:32 PM

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Yeah I had a lot of fun last night. Too bad she got a ticket but oh well shit happens.

Broke in my new clutch last night after we left.

http://www.streetfire.net/video/img11261mov_2298651.htm

blackawdtsi 08-14-2011 07:14 PM

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Just got back home from dinner after Rockfalls.

I thought it was a test n tune day at RF so my wife and I drove out there at noon. We got there around two to find out it was a money / trophy race day. I talked to Jennifer and she pointed me to Allan, the owner. He actually let me sneak in three runs for $40 which I thought was awesome.

Anyway, I ended up running like crap for my three runs. The 1st run I couldn't find 2nd and shut down after 1st. The 2nd run I bogged the launch. And third I turned up the anti-lag enrichment to 10% instead of 5% and NLTS'd 2-3 and 3-4. Second was still rough to get into, but at least I got to race. I was still on 24psi but running 10.5ish:1 afrs because I was too lazy to tune it on the way. I ended up running 12.88 @114 on the last run.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/d...ge_2298813.htm

I will be getting Poly mounts, skater bearings, bolting the shifter directly to the floor and getting a real tune on it before heading back, hopefully in two weeks.

C3L1CA 08-14-2011 07:50 PM

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http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/15644.jpg

Glad you had fun out there though

mike55112 08-14-2011 08:52 PM

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Well its a good thing I didnt call in sick to go then. I would like to take the 1g to the track this year.

turbotalon1g 08-14-2011 08:55 PM

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lmao@celica.

blackawdtsi 08-14-2011 09:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 390014)

Mine's not on there. :p


Quote:

Originally Posted by mike55112 (Post 390016)
Well its a good thing I didnt call in sick to go then. I would like to take the 1g to the track this year.

Yeah now we just need to figure out how to get Chris to go.

GsXtUrBo98 08-14-2011 09:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackawdtsi (Post 390019)
Yeah now we just need to figure out how to get Chris to go.

Hey, I went to the track this year!

blackawdtsi 08-14-2011 10:45 PM

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Just messin with ya. :)

mike55112 08-14-2011 11:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GsXtUrBo98 (Post 390022)
Hey, I went to the track this year!

Yeah so have I 3 times. So go again and get some good times to match the good power your making.

blackawdtsi 08-15-2011 12:18 PM

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http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...g/35256955.jpg

blackawdtsi 08-24-2011 09:50 PM

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Came home today to find my instigator plates came in the mail! :)

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...g/f98a2c0b.jpg

GsXtUrBo98 08-24-2011 09:59 PM

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Lookin good!

blackawdtsi 09-09-2011 02:36 AM

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I got the 3582R on tonight. I'm thinking 1.06 T3 was the wrong way to go. But for anyone interested in spool time...

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...g/1a288e4c.jpg

blackawdtsi 09-11-2011 02:11 PM

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For those who aren't on the link forums, I maxed out my pump at 28 psi.

So...

Out with the old in with the new.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...g/2adf6e36.jpg

turbotalon1g 09-11-2011 06:52 PM

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Ew, that's laggy. Maybe all the cool drag racers will like all that lag.

About time you got that pump in, time to go for broke!!

scheides 09-11-2011 10:12 PM

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What pump is that? If it's a wally, curious to know if the DW did anything for you over it. Mine didn't seem to do much over a standard unmodified 255.

blackawdtsi 09-11-2011 10:17 PM

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Ya the old one is supposed to be a wally but I can't find any markings on it.

I haven't done a lot of tuning yet. Post the 28psi run I tried to run through the gears and went instantly lean in first. So I'm down to 15psi smoothing things out.

From what I have noticed is the DW has brought my AFRs anywhere from one to two points richer at any given rpm. My 15psi tune was doing 12:1 - 12.5:1 it's now 10:1 - 11.5:1.

I don't have time tonight but I will be out tomorrow trying for 33 - 35psi.

turbotalon1g 09-12-2011 07:40 AM

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^Like. What psi is that turbo good for? (what is the max?)

blackawdtsi 09-12-2011 10:04 AM

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The 1.06 will stop making power in between 35 and 40. But I don't think I'm going to stick with it. I'll probably move to the .82 late this month or early next.

blackawdtsi 09-14-2011 10:46 PM

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Went out tuning with Aaron tonight. The car now MOVES at 30psi.


However...

I am once again out of pump at 29-30. So much for a $100 upgrade. I'll see about getting a pump next month if the weather is still decent. But I'm going to the track the way the car is.

C3L1CA 09-14-2011 11:02 PM

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A nice boost a pump would probably do the trick. I might know a guy that has one too...

niterydr 09-14-2011 11:19 PM

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Seems the DW aren't really outflowing the walbro 255's. Boost up that pumps voltage and report back results. Do you have an adjustable fuel pressure regulator? I thought one of the advantages of the DW is the continued flow at higher psi?

Halon 09-14-2011 11:21 PM

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Lol, I didn't know this was your name on here. That's funny :D


I shoulda ran you in the bean, but there were too many wierd noises, plus we noticed the oil was low, just wasn't feeling like it was a good night to push it.

blackawdtsi 09-14-2011 11:52 PM

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Haha, Brad. Maybe let me try it out to see how much more I get out of the pump? I really don't have any experience with them and they do cost quite a bit more than just one more pump.

Swanny, yeah I do have an AFPR. I haven't read much about the pump, but I have seen the flow sheet. It's a good idea, but I'm not sure at what point the flow would die at. Maybe I'll test that out tomorrow.

Brandon, you should have run me. Especially prior to tuning, I was only on 19psi. Although I've already had one car throw a rod through the block next to me. One time a season is enough. :)

niterydr 09-15-2011 12:25 AM

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http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/att...flowchart1.jpg

AMS did this test, assuming 13.5 volts. Seems to match what you are finding. What size injectors again and what airflow numbers? Fuel type?

blackawdtsi 09-15-2011 12:36 AM

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1680cc high impedance Boschs, on E85.

I'm not sure on airflow to tell you the truth. Link says 75.3 lbs/min at the highest point, but my AFRest is 5% richer than actual AFR. With 5% taken off the airflow, it's still 71ish lbs/min. So I think it's inflated somehow but not sure now.

niterydr 09-15-2011 02:24 AM

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You live in Savage? Where at? I haven't seen this car around yet. Also you called me Swanny...what is your name? Odds are I know/recognize you but not the SN.

1680's should not be tapped out, plus I doubt that DW300 can support 1680's @ that boost pressure, you may be out of pump. To gain flow, you will have to scale back the baseline fuel pressure AND supply more voltage to the pump, hopefully the FPR can keep up. I am assuming your baseline is 43psi +30psi = 73psi gauge. If I had to venture to guess that would be around 225LPH. What is interesting, is per the above chart, you were only flowing maybe 200lph previously.

I would suggest to pull the baseline back to 30-35psi gauge. That will put you around the same flow now (little higher technically, maybe 20 more lph) at up to 35psi. Gives you some headroom.

Of course you are shrinking the injectors roughly 16.8%, making them 1397cc @ 30psi baseline fuel pressure.

blackrosenova400 09-15-2011 02:51 AM

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I work in Savage and Id love to see this car roll by my work on corner of 13 and 101!

C3L1CA 09-15-2011 07:53 AM

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I'd let you try it if you install it and un-install it if you don't like it, ohhhh and I get a ride in it :D

The boost a pump and a single walbro was enough to make the 520 at db on boost and 597 on nitrous. It'd be interesting to see if it would give enough juice for your setup.

scheides 09-15-2011 02:44 PM

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BAP is the way to go; your fuel system (and its limitations) are nearly identical to mine:
DW300
FIC1680's

Ran out of fuel probably around 420-435whp at DB. Installed BAP and I can run a LOT more boost now!

http://scheides.com/misc/pics/evox/evox-bap-test2.jpg

albeit the X tends to run out of fuel a little sooner than DSM's/CT9A evos.

niterydr 09-15-2011 02:51 PM

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Sounds like everyone is screaming BAP.


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