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That's pretty sweet.

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I wish they would import the 3-door Fiesta here.

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MattD stop being so jealous.

http://www.auto-power-girl.com/photo...a-3-2010-2.jpg

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I mean... good for block exposing more of the mainstream media to rally and whatnot. However, I am also unimpressed by him. I really do hope he can shape up and start actually competing, it'd be great for US motorsports.

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I'm not trying to pick sides or anything here as this guy really has no impact on my life or anything so I could care less about the guy really. But I guess I don't understand the "I could do it if I had as much seat time as him" arguement. Maybe help me understand that arguement more?
Because they way I see life in general, a majority of people get to be professionals at what they due (whether its sports players, or the accountant in the cube next to you) with practice. Sure thre is the occasional prodigy that comes along. But most people are good at what they do from practice. So I guess I don't see where that makes them wrong.

But everyone is entitled to their own opinion, different strokes for different folks :) That's all, good day :)

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Im pretty sure that matt could find a fault with both of those girls. hahahah

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Me> :wank: :eek: <those girls

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The only reason Block is where he is, is because of his money. It's cool that he likes motorsports and everything, but if he can't act like a professional then IMO he doesn't deserve the attention he gets. I'm with Matt on the argument that if you put anyone who understands the way a car like that drives, they could do what he does as well if not better than him, given the amount of seat time he has had.

Another point I have against him is that I wonder how many takes they have to do to get most of his big slides done right. When you watch his videos, any time there's a big slide, there's always skid marks from the previous attempts at it. I'd like to see an outtakes video from the making of one of his "big productions".

I guess I just don't see why he is such a big deal.

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Same can be said about almost everything/anyone. Im sure i could be a better driver than shumacher if i had the seat time/training that he did. im sorry but that arguement is getting old, fast.
Natural talent can get you so far, but if you dont have the money/sponsors/marketability you wont last.

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LOL so true.

Yea I really dont get this thread either.

Who cares who he is or what he does. If you dont like him, dont pay attention to him. I dont like tons of celebrities. You dont see me making posts about Bill Maher or Beyonce everyday.

If you guys are so good at driving, try and beat him at his own game and be a millionaire?

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I'm pretty sure the only reason that argument is being made is because guys like schumacher, all these other rally drivers, etc, were all recognized as drivers and made it big.

From my understanding, Ken Block got big by making shoes, then decided, "hey, I am rich mofo, I think I'll try this". He made a couple gymkana videos, and everybody started saying "ZOMFGGG1!!11!!1 I MUST HAVE SUBARU RALLY CARZZ RUBBLEEEZZZZZ!!!11!!111!!!1 DC SHOES SIDEWAYS HATZ AND LIME GREEN MONSTRER EVERYTHING!!1!!!11!!"

Thus, why he has so many haters, he didn't come up through the ranks of racing, he just hopped in with a bunch of money and decided hey WTF, I'll give this a shot, he has sucked at at, and has still gotten 9,000% of the attention guys like Sebastian Loeb get who win all the time and deserve attention.


Example: This would be like if Greg Camarillo for the Vikings made a couple videos of him making crazy ass catches in a controlled environment with weeks, possibly months of practice doing just what he is doing in the video, whoring out Monster/DC shoes gear, and him all the sudden becoming more famous than Adrian Peterson. LOL


I'm not hating, just explaining. I'm not a Block fan, nor a Block hater, his Gymkana videos are pretty sweet, I just don't see whay he is worshipped by so many because of them. The End.

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I don't agree with this. Most of the people who are at the top of a sport are there because they are genetic, naturally gifted freaks. The people who can just pick up the sport and, from the start, are beating people with a lot more experience. If we could all be at the top with just practice, well, then we wouldn't be at the top, by definition.

We could all likely be close to Block with practice, but we would still be nowhere near Sebastian Loeb. Sure, he practices a lot, but he's also a genetic freak.

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People who make a statement in society, fashion etc, are usually the ones who are followed. IE Lady Gaga, etc.

People that go beyond the norm are remembered and its usually by crazy ideas and designs or retarded riced out monster sponsored subis.

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+1 I agree with you Peter!

Oh and I call dibs on the blond e in that pic!

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This is exactly what made up my opinion on him. I never really heard much or paid too much attention to him before my encounters with him. He has some talent, but he needs to learn how to treat others before he can gain any respect from me for anything he can do, whether he's good at it or not.

I used to think of Travis P. like this before until I really got to know him and saw him in action (not just in a car, but how he conducts himself with fans and such). He gained all kinds of respect from me just from his actions, not his talent. There are plenty of others in the rally community that I would say the same about, so I'm not just jumping on the Pastrana bandwagon here. I could start listing, but half of you wouldn't know who they were and I would use up way too much bandwidth.

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True to a point, but more so of sports that are based around physical ability. Racing is more of a practiced skill than physical feat.

It would be worth noting, some of the reason Loeb has so much success over some of the Finn's is his driving style is fairly atypical of traditional rally canon. Lobe's background is Tarmac. He understands clean racing lines and at an instinctual level. He keeps things neat and tighty, with a minimal of the showyness that people associate with rally. Mix that with 15 years of racing before WRC and it's easy to see how his approach works. I have witnessed faster drivers time and again than Loeb, especially on loose surfaces. But the rate of DNFs from those drivers is their undoing.

Of course unless you grew up racing from a very early age, I suspect it may be very difficult if not impossible to reach the skill level and consistency of a top world-class driver in any format of racing.

BTW, does anybody know if they were using a control tyre in that video? If they were, amazing difference in tyre preservation between drivers.

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So in your example above, would that then mean that Camarillo SUCKS at receiving? He may not be a pro-bowler, but is he still alright or does he flat out SUCK?

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^^ LOL, I think you're looking a bit too hard into my example. It was a bad one at that. I would compare Block more to say.....the Detroit Lions backup Punter as far as comparing success at their respective occupations. :D (Ken Block being a professional race car driver in this example of course)

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I dont know if that is true. There are going to be people who are better than I at physics, no matter what I do. Same goes for video games, throwing a frisbee, and most things, physical or mental, and anything in between. The idea is more than genetic predisposition makes certain things easier, makes you naturally better at certain skills or ways of thinking.

But in a sense I agree, it makes less of a difference than say, sprinting, where physical composition is hugely important.

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LMFAO DC made them take the video down.

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Oh, and look at who was just given a $500,000 sponsorship to drive for Ford...

http://jalopnik.com/#!5782581/ford-h...wearing-shorts

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image...03/fousted.jpg

Ken who?

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Go beat him up already and call it good, the jealousy of his success is annoying.

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I love Ken Block, I don't care what the rest of you say!

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Successfully failing?

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Last time I checked no one I know makes nearly as much money, poked as many hot bishes (assumingly), or has as much fun at their day job.

He's not great at racing, but it looks pretty damn fun and I would prolly try to do it too if I were rich.

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Notwithstanding the implications of the article, Block was only displaced for the newly conceived, "Global RallyCross." Despite the clever marketing, this series so far has consists of the Europeans coming over here with their mature and experienced teams, and shit kicking the crap out of our nation’s finest. I am it will become more geographically competitive with time and resources and it’s encouraging to see companies like Ford, Hyundai, and BMW investing in this style of racing.


And since I guess this thread IS about Block, let’s see how he’s doing in the big leagues:


Rally Mexico – Ken block finishes 1:04:04.7 off the pace of the leader. There were some electrical issues with the car, and he was forced to retire on the first day and restart under super rally rules.


Waiting for a clean rally to get a good indication of where his skills are at.

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Something tells me you shouldn't hold your breath.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Blo...te_WRC_results

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Lol you really edited my post? When I didn't do anything out of line or against the Terms of Service.

Way to abuse your moderator powers Kracka...

Only nuts swingers are you haters that swing from Blocks nuts because he is more successful than you. Glad so many people have these mentalities these days.

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I should go post the events Matt D doesn't finish first in his AutoX.

Because I am so fucking pissed off that he drives an Evo and I don't,,, not to mention he is more successful than me IRL!! GRRRRRRR!!!

/sarcasm off

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People who can't take jokes make me LOLOL

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DC Shoes and Monster provide him with hundreds of thousands of dollars every year to race, and he fails to provide positive results every time. He's not a racer, he's a marketing genius. It's time for him to get out of the seat and let someone else drive who can actually win and for him to stick to what he does best: Make fancy videos.

Sincerely,
Amateur Race Drivers of America

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Your mom makes me LOL.

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Does she tickle your taint?

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I prefer to consider it the utilization of my power :p

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At least he completes the events :D

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I'm sure ripping around a parking lot in a lightly modded sedan takes the same amount of toll on the car that rally does. Not his fault that his team can't keep his car going strong?

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So much anger in here from the pro-Block people.

Maybe this will cheer you up :D

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_P7V_s3yyW1...00/bunny11.jpg

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A. It's a daily driver, not a fully prepped rally car.

B. It seems that Block can't finish many of his races because of offroad excursions (that, of course, couldn't be the fault of his immaculate driving).

C. Have you ever had a face to face encounter with him? Besides not being the worlds best driver, he has a horrible attitude towards the people that are there to help him out. The people that VOLUNTEER their time to make some of those events happen so he can race there.

All in all, he gets a big FAIL in my book. And that is an informed opinion, not a block-hater-nut-swinging opinion.

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Travis Pastrana seemed like a nice guy in person at the rally events and was all about talking to the fans.

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The world's best mechanic can't keep a car running after winds up in a ditch.

In 2010 he entered 7 out of 16 WRC events. He crashed in Mexico (18th), Portugal (retired, roll cage damage), France in pre-race testing, Spain (9th), and Great Britain in pre-race testing. He also entered 6 Rally America events in 2010 and only finished 1.