MitsuStyle

MitsuStyle (http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/index.php)
-   Project Talk (http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
-   -   Finally got my Evo (http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27993)

tpunx99GSX 10-04-2010 09:30 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 359492)
Forgot to add this:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/...7e920b69_b.jpg

Mod list:
Injen Intake with Amsoil Filter
Injen UIPC and LIPC
3" Invidia Turboback Exhaust
stock fuel pump
stock injectors
92 octane pump gas

Have you figured out why the power drops off like that? Thats pretty drastic.

Matt D. 10-04-2010 09:31 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 360283)
Have you figured out why the power drops off like that? Thats pretty drastic.

It's a 4G63, torque always looks like that.

tpunx99GSX 10-04-2010 09:33 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 360284)
It's a 4G63, torque always looks like that.

oh nm i was confusing the tq and HP curves. although that torque curve looks more like a domestic. haha

goodhart 10-04-2010 09:35 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 360283)
Have you figured out why the power drops off like that? Thats pretty drastic.

And it's stock turbo, they all taper pretty badly, although mine does hold 20psi at redline, or at least it did on MAP's dyno Saturday.

Matt D. 10-04-2010 09:39 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 360285)
oh nm i was confusing the tq and HP curves. although that torque curve looks more like a domestic. haha

Are you high?

2008 Corvette LS3
http://www.dragtimes.com/images_dyno...vette-Dyno.jpg

Kevin 1G Drummer 10-04-2010 09:31 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
It just doesn't look right without the wing. Especially with the vortex generator on there.

slowbubblecar 10-04-2010 09:56 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 360287)

My car put down about 50 more tq than hp when I dynoed it last year. The tq curve doesn't look too far off for my type of domestic.

goodhart 10-10-2010 10:24 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Had some fun with the car this weekend. I loaded Tephra v5.10 on the car with the over the phone assistance of Hughes and Scheides (thanks so much again!!) I didn't do the valet mode, cause it's just ghey unless you do valet on a regular basis. I did enable the knock CEL, and disabled the stupid P0300 Random Misfire code that seems to be pretty common actually.

I tried to do NLTS, and every time I would try it, it would cut really hard, like boost cut. After double, triple, and quadruples checking all the values/tables in ECU Flash, and figuring out that the car would only act like this when NLTS was activated in ECU Flash, Scheides had the idea of checking the upper clutch switch. (The one that tells the car the clutch is all the way to the top) Sure thing, the switch (It's a little plunger style switch for those that may not know) is about 1/16"-1/8" from being depressed all the way when the clutch is at the top of it's throw, so the car thought the clutch was part way in, enabling NLTS too early. So, I'm going to try to bend whatever little bracket this switch may be on, so it gets depressed all the way in. If that doesn't work, I have a pretty sweet little idea that may or may not include some Billy Mays magic ;)

I put the wing back on, and installed one of my Kracka Vents (the rear one was hard to get to at the time with the car being hot).

And earlier this week, I brought the car in to a local audio shop ( I hate wiring with a passion, and this car was an absolute nightmare) and had them figure out all the massive amounts of wiring from one of the previous owners huge systems. The guy had a in dash DVD player/carputer, component speakers in the front, some kind of JL Audio rear speakers, subs in the trunk and some other crap. When I got the car, it had a stock deck that didn't work :lol: So, they yanked all the crap that was un-needed out of the car, and put in a cheapy Kenwood Excelon KDC-X494 Deck and hook up the MA crossovers to the front components. Sounds alright now, 100% better than having no sound thats for sure! But I think I will be looking for a sub setup, and a 4 channel amp for the other main speakers over the winter, it needs just a hair more bass.

Anyone have an SSL Sub box laying around? I kind of want to have the stockish look, and take up as little room as possible.


http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entert...ivers/KDC-X494

cmspaz 10-10-2010 11:40 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Awesome progress. But why 5.10, out of curiosity? Are version numbers different for IXs?

NLTS is a fucking pain sometimes, but it makes WOT amazing. Well worth it.

311evo 10-11-2010 02:53 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
When it's cutting like that you probably have your foot just barely hovering over/touching the clutch. Turn it on, do a pull with your foot beside it, and see how it acts.

Edit; nvm. Should have ready your whole post.

Kracka 10-11-2010 07:18 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 361405)
Awesome progress. But why 5.10, out of curiosity? Are version numbers different for IXs?

NLTS is a fucking pain sometimes, but it makes WOT amazing. Well worth it.

V5.10 for the IX seems to be the most complete and bug-free, while not having do deal with the obnoxious "big maps" of V7. I've tried them all and he decided to use V5.10 on my recommendation; plus it's a lot easier to setup than V7 which is a huge plus with him being a ECUFlash beginner. The only benefits V7 seems to have is if you're running ECU-controlled boost or are making big power and need the higher resolution of the big maps.

NLTS is awesome, I bet you'll love it once you fix your switch! It does take some getting used to though so be patient with it.

cmspaz 10-11-2010 09:28 AM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 361416)
V5.10 for the IX seems to be the most complete and bug-free, while not having do deal with the obnoxious "big maps" of V7. I've tried them all and he decided to use V5.10 on my recommendation; plus it's a lot easier to setup than V7 which is a huge plus with him being a ECUFlash beginner. The only benefits V7 seems to have is if you're running ECU-controlled boost or are making big power and need the higher resolution of the big maps.

NLTS is awesome, I bet you'll love it once you fix your switch! It does take some getting used to though so be patient with it.

Gotcha.

Had had some part-throttle troubles with it initially, but the car hasn't bucked on me for it for a long time now. Really trains you to keep your foot off the clutch unless you're using it.

goodhart 11-09-2010 08:12 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Round one of mods will start over the winter, I figured I could steal some parts off of the Talon since that is a 99% chance of getting parted out now.

Parts off Talon:
-FIC 1350cc injectors
-DB Performance MBC (I can sell this Blitz EBC for a couple hundred bucks)
-Supertech dual valve springs (kind of overkill, but they are essentially free since I already have them)
-RPF1's (need tires, but these wouldn't go in till summer anyways)
AEM analog boost and wideband gauges
Small Battery (I'll be getting a Primo battery tray for this)


Then since my Walbro 255's won't work in the Evo, I'll probably get one of those along with a Megan O2 housing and possibly a FMIC.

No hurry on any of this, I'll probably slowly accumulate the parts over the winter and see how things go, then get a Shane tune in the spring. I'll probably try out map switching and get pump & E85 tunes.

turbotalon1g 11-09-2010 09:21 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Nice!

95talonracer 11-09-2010 09:40 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Does it shift better now?

goodhart 11-09-2010 11:08 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Shift amazing. Thanks again for that Kerry, forgot to mention that when I picked up my t-case for the DSM Saturday, we bled the piss out of my clutch, installed the Rosey Clutch fork stopper, and I had Kerry adjust my clutch pedal because with my effed up hand, I couldn't get my hand with the wrench in the right position to adjust it.

I think engagement could maybe be a tad lower, but this is working good for now. :)

s1ngletracker 11-10-2010 05:28 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
where do people get these 'kracka' vents?

mlomker 11-10-2010 05:44 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s1ngletracker (Post 365539)
where do people get these 'kracka' vents?

http://www.maperformance.com/kracka-...acuum-kit.html

turbotalon1g 11-10-2010 06:00 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
I might have a set laying around

goodhart 12-12-2010 08:56 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 365337)
Round one of mods will start over the winter, I figured I could steal some parts off of the Talon since that is a 99% chance of getting parted out now.

Parts off Talon:
-FIC 1350cc injectors
-DB Performance MBC (I can sell this Blitz EBC for a couple hundred bucks)
-Supertech dual valve springs (kind of overkill, but they are essentially free since I already have them)
-RPF1's (need tires, but these wouldn't go in till summer anyways)
-AEM analog boost and wideband gauges
-Small Battery (I'll be getting a Primo battery tray for this)


Then since my Walbro 255's won't work in the Evo, I'll probably get one of those along with a Megan O2 housing and possibly a FMIC.

No hurry on any of this, I'll probably slowly accumulate the parts over the winter and see how things go, then get a Shane tune in the spring. I'll probably try out map switching and get pump & E85 tunes.


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/...7cb12eb7_z.jpg


Got the pump last week from MAP ($80 shipped!), yanked the injectors last weekend.


Found out I need the specified seats and seals for the dual valve springs. Not sure how hard that is or if it can be done without yanking the head. I am gonna try to keep that good old "factory seal" as long as I can, it worked pretty well for Hughes and Jim :D

Also been doing research on tires quite a bit, leaning towards putting some Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec's on the RPF1's. They seem to be the best tire for a daily driver/very occasional track use and still be worth a damn in the rain. Pretty sure I'll be able to get 2 summers out of them with doing maybe 1-2 autox's a year and a handful of trips to the drag strip, which I would be happy with. I plan on waiting until closer to spring to see if anything new comes out though, and maybe jump on a clearance sale of last years tires.

As far as the E85 stuff goes, I'll be waiting till spring for that. 50 more HP wouldn't really be all that useful until then anyways, and by then I should have more money for a tune from my Talon part-out so it won't put any strain on the wallet. Until then, I'll probably start collecting the other small stuff I need/want for the car like;

-Gauge pod
-small battery tray
-Alt Map switch
-Omni 4 BAR Map sensor
-Megan o2
-Some FMIC, leaning towards an Ebay special OBX. Has cast end tanks, its the Perrin knockoff, should do decent enough for my small setup.


-I would like to get a different LICP, probably a Muse Motorsports one unless I can find a good used one for cheaper.
-Brakes. Going to go with the rotorpros blanks coated in black with probably some Girodisc magic pads.

turbotalon1g 12-12-2010 09:02 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Sweet, blue injectors make me feel good inside.
I was thinking about your part-out today.
Anything else new with the evo?

Kracka 12-12-2010 09:04 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 368507)
I am gonna try to keep that good old "factory seal" as long as I can, it worked pretty well for Hughes and Jim :D

Not a bad idea at all. My IX is now over 60k miles about 35k of which is with the FP4R's (stock springs, seals, etc.). I think a conservative rev-limit is what really saves the valve seals (fairly common weak-point of the 8/9 head). I set the rev-limiter to 7,600 when I installed those cams just to be on the safe side; the car did sit on that limiter quite a bit too during autocross when it didn't make sense to snap off another shift into 3rd.

goodhart 12-12-2010 09:05 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
haha, nope! Just been enjoying the hell out of a working vehicle!

I did get a CEL today though, gonna check that with EvoScan tomorrow with a buddy's laptop. ( I don't have one :( )

Kracka 12-12-2010 09:07 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
I'm calling it right now: Random misfire P0300!

Actually probably not since you have stock cams and injectors, but with these cars who knows :) Since it's so cold there it could be an overboost error if the boost limit table wasn't set to 319 across the board.

goodhart 12-12-2010 09:11 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2374992_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4875660_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5271381_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._3675572_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2508327_n.jpg

turbotalon1g 12-12-2010 09:14 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Nice pics and damn that car looks good.

goodhart 12-12-2010 09:15 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 368513)
I'm calling it right now: Random misfire P0300!

Actually probably not since you have stock cams and injectors, but with these cars who knows :) Since it's so cold there it could be an overboost error if the boost limit table wasn't set to 319 across the board.

I already disabled that. It came on this morning when I started the car to let it warm up. I fired it up and it missed a bit, then when I came back out to move it, the CEL was on...:confused:

I forgot to save the ECU info to my desktop like I have in the past, so I'll just have to wait till I can pull it with the laptop tomorrow night. The car ran perfectly fine, so I'm not too concerned, just not really getting into the boost too much until I can read the code. I'm sure it's something small

goodhart 12-12-2010 09:35 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 368509)
Anything else new with the evo?

I guess I forgot about this, it's new but meh, it's cosmetic haha

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5090/...6fcc6c77_z.jpg


It's the black UK Evo badging with my own little touch to it. It was previously completely bare. Decided it needed a little something. EBay is great too cause some of these fools want like $100+ for the same kit I got for ~$25

Should look nice across the trunk from once of these eventually:
http://www.24designs.net/images/cfe853.jpg
http://www.24designs.net/images/cfe85.jpg

haven't bought it yet, I'll get to that once I'm tuned :) Not sure which one I want/which one would look better on the car

GG_9_SE 12-12-2010 09:49 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Hey where did you find those badges? I don't really like the colored ones.

goodhart 12-12-2010 10:22 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GG_9_SE (Post 368520)
Hey where did you find those badges? I don't really like the colored ones.

Neither do I, that's why I was looking at these.

http://www.24designs.net/index.php?m...index&cPath=49

Let me know if you decide to get one though, we could just order two so we wouldn't have to pay shipping twice for such a small thing, cause I'm sure they'll want like $6.00 to ship the damn thing

bramagedained 12-12-2010 11:30 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
If you didn't buy a mini battery tray yet...

I still have the tray that came from Trevor's car that I'm not going to use.

I can't remember what I paid for it and he edited his thread on EvoMN as he sold stuff. You can have it for cheap.

You would have to pick it up from my dad's in Fridley though... whenever my car comes back from Brookdale Mitsu.

It's just sitting in the trunk of my car with all the other random crap I left in MN when I went back for R&R.

GG_9_SE 12-12-2010 11:41 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 368527)
Neither do I, that's why I was looking at these.

http://www.24designs.net/index.php?m...index&cPath=49

Let me know if you decide to get one though, we could just order two so we wouldn't have to pay shipping twice for such a small thing, cause I'm sure they'll want like $6.00 to ship the damn thing

Yea let me know i want one :score010:

goodhart 12-13-2010 07:15 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Got in the car after work today and no CEL. I guess it will be one of those...

http://images.tvrage.com/shows/7/6487.jpg


On another note, I sent out a sample from my first oil change (mitsustyle spring dyno day 2010 prize), wasn't sure what oil was used in it, so I just guessed it was Mobil 1 10w-30.

Got my results back today. Looks to be a pretty healthy motor.


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5005/...c6aa282b_b.jpg

goodhart 12-23-2010 12:37 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Figured I would drag this back to my project thread so I wouldn't clutter up Matt's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 369367)
I'd recommend the Centric Premiums since they use the known good 120 core. Rotorpros vary and can be either the 120's or the lesser 121 (C-TEK). The 120 cores are what Powerslot, Cryostop, and Stoptech use for their branded rotors.



What is the difference between the 120's and the C-TEK anyways? I read through the entire thread debating the difference of the 2 and the only real argument anyone could come up with is that the cooling vanes were different. I wonder if the 121's would really be that much worse for a car like mine that is only daily driven and would see real hard braking maybe a few times a year? (Cruises, maybe a few auto-x's, spirited driving here and there)

Only real downside sounds like the black coating on them sucks and flakes off after a month or two of use. Dissapointing, but maybe there is a local place that could provide somethig that could hold up better for close to the same price. ($10/rotor)

Kracka 12-23-2010 01:05 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
For the price of the Centrics, I really don't see any downside to getting them. Plus, their coating (black and silver available) is much better than Rotorpros. The black coating on my IX is still holding up strong last I saw the car a few weeks ago (plenty of street miles + track days + auto-x).

goodhart 12-23-2010 01:09 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 369379)
For the price of the Centrics, I really don't see any downside to getting them. Plus, their coating (black and silver available) is much better than Rotorpros. The black coating on my IX is still holding up strong last I saw the car a few weeks ago (plenty of street miles + track days + auto-x).


Any downside to the Centrics, or the RotorPros? The centrics are just about twice as much, so I would say a downside to the Centrics are the price vs. RotorPros.

Kracka 12-23-2010 01:13 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 369380)
The centrics are just about twice as much, so I would say a downside to tghe Centrics are the price vs. RotorPros.

Not sure where you're looking but they're only $264/set of 4 from Tirerack and even cheaper from MAP.

DoughtCom 12-23-2010 01:25 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
I have rotorpros on my IX, the coating did come off, but I'm still trying to figure out the purpose of the hub area coating on rotors. Other than that my rotorpros are amazing and I'm the type of person that'll warp rotors in a few days if they aren't up to the challenge... I've done it many times.

goodhart 12-23-2010 01:55 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 369384)
Not sure where you're looking but they're only $264/set of 4 from Tirerack and even cheaper from MAP.

Huh? MAP Doesn't even have Centrics on their site? Though I did see them on tirerack for a great price! hmmm....

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoughtCom (Post 369389)
I have rotorpros on my IX, the coating did come off, but I'm still trying to figure out the purpose of the hub area coating on rotors. Other than that my rotorpros are amazing and I'm the type of person that'll warp rotors in a few days if they aren't up to the challenge... I've done it many times.


Good to hear. I would think the coating would be mainly for keeping rust off of them.

DoughtCom 12-23-2010 02:09 PM

Re: Finally got my Evo
 
Yeah for sure, I just don't think it matters much if the part of the rotor you can't see is rusty, the wheel still comes off just as easy. If I were to do it again I wouldn't get any coating at all on my rotors and save the $5 or whatever it was on each rotor.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:09 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.