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311evo 10-21-2010 01:03 PM

Re: 311evo's ev-oh
 
I was reading too that AMS/Buschur put in the Heavy Shock proof oil in both their t-case and diff. I'm still unsure I guess, I would get the diaqueen but I'm sure no one within 60 miles of me has some.

mlomker 10-21-2010 01:46 PM

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I intend to run the tranny cocktail and shockproof in my car next year. It's on my Spring to-do list.

Jacks transmissions recommends it and I like those guys.

turbotalon1g 10-21-2010 01:47 PM

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Who has diaqueen? I might be coming that way in the next 2 days. I need to coordinate with some members here first.

mlomker 10-21-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 362791)
Who has diaqueen?

Brookdale would have to. I wouldn't be surprised if RS and DB also had some on-hand. MAP has it on their website so they might stock it.

Shane@DBPerformance 10-21-2010 03:26 PM

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A lot of people run the Redline Heavyduty in the t-case. I have some Diaqueen LSD, but it's just in big cans for working on cars in the shop. You can usually pick some up at the dealer.

311evo 10-21-2010 08:43 PM

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I think I'll just go with the redline for now, I already have their cocktail in my tranny and love it. It's going to be about the only thing I can pick up locally besides Amsoil.

turbotalon1g 10-21-2010 11:11 PM

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I'm supposed to be meeting up with Jrohner on sat afternoon, so if you need me to taxi something out to you I can, but this would need u to trust my DSM not breaking in the next couple of days.

Murlo26 10-21-2010 11:15 PM

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I'll be prepping my car saturday, if you need a ride Aaron, let me know ;)

311evo 10-22-2010 06:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 362871)
I'm supposed to be meeting up with Jrohner on sat afternoon, so if you need me to taxi something out to you I can, but this would need u to trust my DSM not breaking in the next couple of days.

Where will you be meeting up with him?

turbotalon1g 10-22-2010 08:40 PM

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I'm sure his place, but I have to check.

311evo 10-23-2010 03:35 AM

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So, after more thinking and investigating, I'm 95% sure my t-case is on its way out.

Once the death whine has started, you can't really stop it. awesome

Murlo26 10-23-2010 11:05 AM

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Sucks man :(

Keep us updated on what you do with it...at least its winter around the corner and not nice out.

311evo 10-23-2010 02:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 363011)
Sucks man :(

Keep us updated on what you do with it...at least its winter around the corner and not nice out.

Winter is the funnest part of the year with these cars.

It's prolly going to sit for a while. Maybe I'll go to the casino and make some magic happen.

311evo 12-15-2010 04:04 AM

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Yay, an update!

..about how unhappy I am.


So I had my T-case rebuilt by MAP (great job, good service, I'm sure it's an excellent T-case). Judging by the whining and how the car acted it seemed the t-case was the clear culprit. Sadly, this was not the case and I've somewhat wasted a good amount of money. Not really "wasted" because having a new beefed up t-case is never bad, but in this case was completely unnecessary.

I'm not sure where to go from here, the rear diff maybe, but it doesn't have any usual signs of that going out (no binding, the sound doesn't change with turning, etc.). Could something in the drive-shaft or an axle be causing this?

I'm SO god damn excited to find a bad bearing somewhere that costs $50 to fix.. uhg. Totally flustered, silly me to think I could call the shot on a problem like that.

awd-drifter 12-15-2010 05:36 AM

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well, at least you have a good t-case. hopefully it is what it is though man. Hate to see an Evo like yours put down man!

scheides 12-15-2010 07:55 AM

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Its ok man, start with the easy stuff, you're doing the right thing. Rear diff you should clearly be able to hear behind you/back of the car....have you wobbled the driveshaft to see if there's any play in it? twist it back and forth..mattd's made a clinking noise.

Murlo26 12-15-2010 08:31 AM

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Shitty! Hopefully you figure it out soon, you've had enough down time recently.

Matt D. 12-15-2010 08:51 AM

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I'm pretty sure my rear diff whines and is what makes the rattling noise under decel. It definitely got louder when I put the rear diff bushings in.

cmspaz 12-15-2010 09:17 AM

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This is why I'm holding off on mine, I want to be sure. Whine's gotten slowly worse over time, loudest around 60-65, but $1500's a big chunk of change.

Do you have or could you take a video of the noise?

DoughtCom 12-15-2010 09:48 AM

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You guys are scaring me, maybe I should get a built t-case with my next tranny.

Halon 12-15-2010 10:20 AM

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What about your driveshaft allignment? Might be worth a shot. And if the driveshaft has been in and out quite a few times, it's possible re-shimming could help.

http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showthr...aft+allignment

311evo 12-15-2010 12:50 PM

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Those carrier bearings seem like a good idea, I'll check it out.

It's weird though too that there is no clicking or grinding of any kind.

311evo 12-15-2010 12:51 PM

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double.

GG_9_SE 12-15-2010 12:52 PM

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u still planning on stopping by tonight? i can help diagnose or whatever.

311evo 12-15-2010 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GG_9_SE (Post 368718)
u still planning on stopping by tonight? i can help diagnose or whatever.

Not going to be able too, I'm getting the snow tires put on in the morning and dropping it off there tonight. I'm most likely going to bring it to my friends shop that has a lift to do some inspection.

goodhart 01-28-2011 04:42 PM

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You ever get this sorted out? A Friend is having a similar issue

Dj Corkscrew 01-28-2011 05:12 PM

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Yea mine is making a weird sound while acel and decel, almost sounds like a tornado siren. Im afraid its the T-case but hope its something small. Fluids were good in both t case and diff, nothing wrong with driveshaft and wheel bearings seem to be good

Goat Blower 01-28-2011 05:46 PM

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Do you have a twin disk?

Murlo26 01-28-2011 07:48 PM

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Jake has an ACT 6 puck I believe. I could be wrong though, if thats what you were asking goat.

Dj Corkscrew 01-28-2011 08:38 PM

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Mine is a ACT 6 pluck also

311evo 03-19-2011 03:40 AM

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This, I believe, has something to do with my cars recent journey into burning oil rapidly.

(there seems to be more shaft play irl)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuFH-ms3wvg&hd=1

cmspaz 03-19-2011 09:17 AM

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Looks like in-out and everything. Shitty, dude.

Zinc content high enough to meet their specs? If I remember you were running part VR1 part something else? Hopefully they'll warranty it.

mdost03 03-19-2011 09:49 AM

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I didn't notice any in and out, but definitely some side to side.

scheides 03-19-2011 10:20 AM

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How long had it been since it ran? Journal bearing turbos sometimes can have a bit of play like that if they sat for a while and the oil is all drained out of the bearing....but on a turbo like the black that amount of play would prolly have me a little worried! Def send the video to FP and see what they say.

311evo 03-19-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 377161)
How long had it been since it ran? Journal bearing turbos sometimes can have a bit of play like that if they sat for a while and the oil is all drained out of the bearing....but on a turbo like the black that amount of play would prolly have me a little worried! Def send the video to FP and see what they say.

Was probably about 10 minutes since it ran I think. It never hadthat kind of play in it before, and I've only put maybe 4-5k on it.

311evo 03-19-2011 10:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 377155)
Looks like in-out and everything. Shitty, dude.

Zinc content high enough to meet their specs? If I remember you were running part VR1 part something else? Hopefully they'll warranty it.

Yeah hopefully the warrenty will be good/ have it in time for the cruise. Last year I was running same valvoline 10/40 20/50 mix. And for the winter I switched to just 10/40.

Matt D. 03-19-2011 10:59 AM

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It seems like no matter what oil you use FP turbos do not have the longevity of others.

Murlo26 03-19-2011 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 377168)
It seems like no matter what oil you use FP turbos do not have the longevity of others.

I still think that has a lot to do with how hard people run them. You never see FP users doing mild builds, well very rarely. And if they do they don't break.

Regardless, shitty man, hopefully you get it warrantied.

311evo 03-19-2011 04:46 PM

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Trevor and I will be working on the warranty on Monday, I'll update that info as it comes.

I will agree that FP turbo's do tend to be less reliable then oem units, and some of the other aftermarkets. I guess a reliable stock frame turbo pushing close to 40 pounds might be harder to obtain then we thought.

311evo 03-22-2011 05:57 PM

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Now this thread can get a little debate action going.

The black is blown, and I will have to pay FP to rebuild it. I will then likely sell it then, or sell it now "as-is" for a much cheaper price. Or keep it and see if it lasts longer this time?

Option 1: Get a stock turbo, wait for black to get back, then use the black and sell the stocker.
Cost: Rebuild (unknown, I'm guessing at least a couple hundred)
OEM IX turbo - $400

option 2: 6262 set up. (at least temporarily, if I decide on the HTA86 in the future it should all bolt up)
Cost: around 2.5k total. (Manifold/WG/Dump - $1,200, turbo $800, downpipe modifications-$? oil/water lines?)

Option 3: HTA86 set up
Cost: around 3.5k total (Manifold/WG/Dump - $1,200, turbo $1,600, Downpipe modifications-$? oil/water lines?)


Let me know your thoughts and opinions on the different turbo's and options you would look into.


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