Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

Just spray it, it works for Brad ;)

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

I have already talked with Shane about this and have a setup in mind if I need it :) Shane already broke it down for me...

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

I see what you are saying. I'm just saying 10s isn't no small accomplishment.
I see where you want to make sure that power wise shooting for 10s isn't out of the question.

but with guys like ron and many others running 10s on stock turbo evos, you should know your question. Luckily with the net there are tons of examples to make estimations off of.

You guys don't have a Curt Brown in the EVO X crew do you?
I know he is going to a 8 or 9 now. DSM sad.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

Only problem with this logic of just running out and running times is the turbo setup. Shane made tons of comments on this when we were at BIR. A 16g car is easy to be consistent on. Stock frame turbo is probably similar, depending on size; the bigger it is, the harder it will be to be consistent. An fp black might be tough, I know trevor struggled a bit with his.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

You guys crack me up.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

dont you need them fancy speed holes in the back bumper?

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

^True. I set my holset (middle sized?) to 20psi and ran 12.0s all day.

Street action was 30+.

I'm not against anyone here, in my eyes if you making the power and you spent all that $$$ you better run the times.

I say spray the fuck out of it. I can get a direct port kit if u need it.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

Get your motor in your car and gimme my hoist back! You are the worst, mister leave-your-car-down-for-a-year-at-a-time! :P Get to it!

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

That just means he is an OG.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

^Word. Or taking your car apart every winter then leaving it apart

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

The smaller the turbo, the easier it is to run a good ET for the power. It might take 360awhp with an Evo 3 16G or stock turbo Evo 8/9 to run 11.5, but with a bigger/laggier turbo it might take 50-100whp more. It's also way easier to launch smaller turbo cars. NLTS has made running bigger turbos and keeping them spooled much easier, losing boost between shifts is the ET killer on bigger turbo setups.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

^^^Speaking of OG's, when's your 10second 2G going back together :lol:

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

I know for sure a bigger turbo is harder to drive down the track. I ran a 11.8 at 126. And my best pass was a 11.5 at 124. Its not easy at all. You have more weight and who knows the X might be harder to drive down the track then a VIII or IX. I hope you hit a 10 second pass!

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

hell yeah, just incase the wind doesn't flip your car over! lol. SO many civics are doing that it's just funny. I'm guessing it's extremely aerodynamic/

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

It's funny having been around DSMs for a few minutes; seeing how people change during their run through the DSM community and their reactions to new comers with high hopes.

Anyone remember the welcome thread for dsm10sec? (haha) This reminds me exactly of it. And those who got to know me know exactly how much I stuck peoples feet in their own mouths.

Sorry to go so far off topic, but man, watching myself get flamed and then watching people like LaCroix use quarter mile calculators is fucking hilarious. :rollinglaugh:

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

THis = x bazillion. :sex2::KANE::banana:

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

That 10 sec guy was a douche.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

This....

:drive1:

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

Dave will probably run a 10.5 his first pass down the track just to piss everyone off. :)

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

If I do, I am going to payban like this whole site for a week, lol :)

That would be mighty funny...i get giggly just thinking about this.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

I'll go in on it with ya. :P

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

If either of you dont at least run an 11, you get a week ban from me. :)

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

psh, I ran at least a mid-high 11 time last year. Hopefully I'll take steps forwards, and not back.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

I accept your payban challenge, i will gladly go purple for a week if i can't manage high 11's.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

BUT, if either of us not only run an 11, but sneak into the 10 range. He has to payban himself for a week.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

Hope you don't break on the first run, bud. lol.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

lol paybanning the whole site.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

This thread should generate some decent change for the site. :) haha

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

I like this idea. 12's and we will payban you. 11's are nuetral. 10's, I will payban myself :)

Don't get me wrong, I really hope this ends in me paybanning myself because that's a great accomplishment!

I wish you guys the best of luck!!!

Keep in mind my 10 was a very high 10. 10.93 and I trapped 137mph. This was at appx 540hp at DB, and on a 1G with a little bit of weight reduction but not a ton. And that was probably my 15th or so pass on that setup. The launch and 1-2 shift seemed to be key. And like others said, the larger the turbo, the trickier the launch seems to be.

But I still consider myself a drag racing newb, so I'm not an expert what-so-ever. I'm still learning right along with y'all. You may turn out to be way better drivers then me right off the bat, who knows. Either way, it's all about having fun to me!

And yeah it'd be fun to come, but my next 2 weekends are already booked up with other crap. And then by the time I have an open weekend, I'm hoping either my car is sold, or it's in the middle of disassembly to start being parted out. Sad :(

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

Partout baby. This B man needs some parts on the chizzeap.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

Ha, chizzeap? This B-Man can't be to cheap on his partout cuz I need to put that money towards the next project!

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

Payban me if ya want cause you wont hit 10's scouts honor!
Jake might tho....

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

^Not sure why you think his has a better chance, my car has lost quite a bit of lbs through certain parts and completely gutted trunk. I bet I am around 3450-3475. I doubt Jake's is much lighter...driving will be a much bigger issue than weight.

However, his NLTS has a huge advantage over me for sure.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

I give him the advantage because he's been to the track many times and his car wieghts less than yours. And yes nlts is a huge thing as well..

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

Like I said, I doubt our cars will weigh too much different, but yea no NTLS will suck, but not the end of the world. I agree he has a better chance...but I have seen first timers do well before, I am optimistic for sure, but either way i will have fun.

I guess I didn't know he has gone that much, but honestly on a totally new setup, he will be on a similar learning curve.

Edit: I should've rephrased my previous post that you quoted, not sure why you don't think I have a chance is a better statement, but like i said here, i understand where you are coming from.

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

Jake's got an '03, if I remember correctly. Shit's 3200lbs, son!

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

^Guess i didn't think it was that light...I have the mivec advantage though, which is a big gain :)

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

Something to note quick, I don't want this to be a Me vs. Jake thread, lol. I am in no way trying to compete with him, until recently I wasn't even aware that his build was so extensive.

I hope we both run good times and we will have similar setups as well.

I think it will be interesting to see how each build goes and ends up. I guess what I am trying to say is i think the builds will have similar results, but only time will tell :)

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

Hell, they're technically less than that. Mine was 3220 with nobody in it, completely full tank, spare still in the trunk. Take half the fuel out and yank the spare and you're in the 3100s. ;)

Re: What does it take to run a 10? 500whp@DB, practice, or both? Neither?
 

My car was around 3600 the other day with spare and full tank. My car isn't stock, either...the exhaust and other parts are lighter. Plenty of stuff that could be removed, though.