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SlowWhite 04-20-2004 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Enes@Apr 20 2004, 09:22 AM
that is what pisses me off a lot..

i make a report of vandalism... they don't send out a police officer to the scene but they take it over the phone, because they are short on officers, but i drive down the road and they pull over my neighbor, 3 squad cars because her tabs expired by 2 days. and she gets 2 tickets for it.

now that is very logical..

E

You know what they really are doing? They aren't taking your report they're ordering food or watching TV.

When I had one of my renters girlfriends take a hammer to my Eclipse. She flat out told me she did it. Police came and were like sorry we won't do anything about it cause it happened last week and it's too late now.


does that mean that if I miss a coart date or something I can just say sorry that was so last week. There nothing I can do about it now and just get on with life.

Hell no - a Crimes a Crime, She admitted it, she also admited ot breaking out one of my windows so that she could get back into the house. And the police where like sorry there isn't enough damage to warrent a report. (has to be $500 or more)

I'm like realy - New Window ($300) install of ne window ($150) Complete Dent removeable for my car ($2600), new windshield ($350), new rear bumper ($300+painting from mitsu)


Cops replies - "How do you know you need all that? Are you an expert"

WTF - I wanted to bitch slap the fucker. Be like how the hell did you live this long being that fucking dumb? Look at it you can see what the Fucks wrong.

SlowWhite 04-20-2004 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by Alpine TSi@Apr 20 2004, 09:25 AM
Hey Brian, I am not sure that this would be the appropriate place to mention it but I believe your sig should say "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" or some other spelling of "Puft" but I am pretty sure it is Puft. Now I may be wrong because the only place I ever saw it was in the Ghostbusters and I don't think I was alive when it came out and have only seen it once. Sorry if I am wrong and to totally take this topic off track.
that's what I was basing it off of (ghost busters)

So I'll change it. I was trying to come up with something funny to describe the fact that my car has more mods them most people but is still slower then stock.

-brian

SlowWhite 04-20-2004 03:07 PM

Tom,

Be like me. Just go up to Uni to talk. I no longer race at the places where everyone else does. I will only go to the ones that are INVITE ONLY when those start back up again.


-brian

Enes 04-20-2004 03:47 PM

i think this is one of those topics a moderator should be going hog wild over :)

-E

tpunx99GSX 04-20-2004 03:59 PM

i was waiting for your reply brian, i was getting manhandled be everyone. your right brian im only gonna go down there to talk to people. in any case for some reason it is illegal to drive a nice car (in the cops eyes) i dont like to blend in, i like to be different. i will never try to blend in.

Jana 04-20-2004 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by Enes@Apr 20 2004, 02:47 PM
i think this is one of those topics a moderator should be going hog wild over :)

-E

Ya think ;)

Enes 04-20-2004 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by DSMChick+Apr 20 2004, 02:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DSMChick @ Apr 20 2004, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Enes@Apr 20 2004, 02:47 PM
i think this is one of those topics a moderator should be going hog wild over :)

-E

Ya think ;) [/b][/quote]
hey, this one is for you!!! :)

vapour24 04-20-2004 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by tpunx99GSX@Apr 20 2004, 08:25 AM
ya know what, after thinking long and hard about all the shit ive gone through in the past year, ive finally decided that i will no longer be street racing. i say FUCK IT. Fuck the police if i never talk to another one again i will be a happy person.
you shouldnt see me at uni for a long time, unless im just cruisin, its not worth it for me anymore. ill go to the track but thats it, no more organised street racing. its been fun guys but im done.
Tom

sucks to hear, i agree with everything your saying, you couldnt have said it better, you will be missed in my viewpoint

tpunx99GSX 04-20-2004 11:09 PM

I just feel that its tyoo much trouble, with the cops knowing every move we make and not being able to get one night without seeing the cops. I am sure i will miss the street racing scene but i dont feel like going to jail for it again. soo i guess ill see everyone at the tracks this year. or at uni cruisin.

Kracka 04-20-2004 11:26 PM

I've never been pulled over any where near Midway...I think it all has to do with the appearance of the car and the way the car is driven.

SlowWhite 04-21-2004 08:52 AM

I don't goof off while cruising Midway. But I got my first "NO front license plate ticket" there.


When I got pulled over the officer proceeded to then try to give me a ticket for the White Vinyl I had on the top of my windshield and the top of my Rear Window. Saying it's abstruction of view.


I then showed the cop that my "Sunvisor" actually blocks more of the window then my banner. Due to me being so tall. I then showed him that if you look out the back window you can't even see the rear banner.

He tried again to give me crap. So I said officer would you like to sit in my car and see for your self. I use this front banner because I can see when I use my stock Sunvisor due to that fact that I'm so tall. And the rear banner isn't even visable from inside the car.


Needless to say I talked my way out of the banner thing but still got hit with the no front license plate. (which I just send the money in for, which I shouldn't have, cause it went on my record as a minor moving violation)

So long story short I agree with Chris - it's how the car looks as well as how you conduct yourself with it up at Uni. I just learned to park the car as soon as I get there and don't cruise up and down.

-Brian

Raptor 04-21-2004 01:41 PM

I honestly can't believe this thread is still going. I went without a front plate on differrent cars for about six years and only recieved a ticket on the ugly ass white one with a big wing on it. You know what, I accepted it and didn't argue for a few reasons, they were right to give me a ticket, it is a law and I broke it. Also, If I was a cop, I would be more apt to want to check out someone that looked like they thought there car was a "race car" for obvious reasons. Is that really a big surprise? If you are not breaking the law, you wont get tickets, you might get checked, but that should be the end of it.

As far as cops go, I was pretty glad they were around when they found my mom flipped over in her car in a ditch last year at 5AM and called us. Because they got to her, she is fine now, otherwise she wouldn't be here. I have had them haul my step daughter to the hospital when she was trying to kill herself with overdosing in the house then freaking out on everyone with a knife. One of my friends in WA was saved by cops when a psycho was shooting everyone in front of him, he managed to kill seven people before the cops got him, but is should have been worse. The list goes on, they are in danger every day and they do it with very little appreciation from the people they are helping. People that whine about getting tickets while they are doing things that look suspicious or are in an area where there is a lot of illegal activity going on really should step back and take a look at it. If you were the cop, you don't know the punk in the car or what he is up to or might have with him, all you can go by is how he looks and where he is. I would pull most of my friends over based on that as well. That isn't to say all cops are perfect, but saying they are all bad is just as predudiced as you are claiming them to be.

A//// Guy 04-21-2004 02:06 PM

I totally agree^^^ :thumbsup:

Enes 04-21-2004 02:26 PM

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Mike gets one of these :)

SlowWhite 04-21-2004 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by Raptor@Apr 21 2004, 11:41 AM
. One of my friends in WA was saved by cops when a psycho was shooting everyone in front of him, he managed to kill seven people before the cops got him, but is should have been worse.
Honestly,

If we were allowed to carry a gun do you think that person would have killed 7 people? Probably not. They do nothing that any of use couldn't do if we were put in a situatin where we had to choose. I know I'd shoot someone if it was either him or I or even if they were killing people. No question

If I was driving and I saw someone flipped over on the side of the road I would stop to help in any way I could. (in the last 5 years I've had a few accidents happen right in front of me during the winter that I've stopped to help)

I think Ambulance drivers do more for people then cops do. And they only get paid $10/hr.

Also a cop walking up to a car with his hand on his gun is one thing and completely understandable. When it comes to your life you can't be careful enough. But on that same point that has absolutley nothing to do with the relevance of this topic. But our point is the fact of how they treat others, as if they are the All mighty themselves and that they think we need to bow down to them or what ever.

They will always start off Demanding obediance of you. The reason they relax is if you give it to them. If you don't they they continue to push you till you treat them as if they are god. I will give someone respect as long as they respect me.

And for the most part most cops I've met. Act like they are hollier then though. I cannot and will not acknowledge that.

SlowWhite 04-21-2004 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by Raptor@Apr 21 2004, 11:41 AM
People that whine about getting tickets while they are doing things that look suspicious or are in an area where there is a lot of illegal activity going on really should step back and take a look at it. If you were the cop, you don't know the punk in the car or what he is up to or might have with him, all you can go by is how he looks and where he is. I would pull most of my friends over based on that as well. That isn't to say all cops are perfect, but saying they are all bad is just as predudiced as you are claiming them to be.
It's not about complaining about getting a ticket that you deserve.

it's about getting a ticket based on guessing. And not fact. It's about venting about problems in the system.


Tom got pulled over for his exhaust sparking. Well if that's the case the cop would have pointed it out and said please get it fixed or something. (like a burnt out headlight)

For the most part cops that actually write up tickets like that are jackass. The tickets usually cost more then the actual fix itself. And hell when it comes to headlights especially if you run fog lights can you honestly catch it right at the time it happens? I've had one go out and I thought it was just my night vision was getting bad or something. (my other light was anged acroos to the other side enough to make it seem like the headlights were working normal)

I got a ticket for it. And was like WTF.

I got another one in my boat. my 360 light worked when I put it in. I then put up the camper which blocks my the view of the light from inside the boat.

Well when I got pulled over the cop sighted me a ticket, fine was $110 which also went on my drivers license. While the cop was still tied up to my boat I pushed the light down into place. And the light turned on. he was like sorry your still getting a ticket.

Do you see my point? It that the police have gotten away from the moto "to protect and to Serve" - and have gone straight to "Show me the money"

I'd rather feel like the police were my friend then be afraid to leave my house in fear of getting a ticket or arrested for something I have no idea about.

-Brian

A//// Guy 04-21-2004 04:14 PM

Im not going to comment any more on this stuff... same old stories getting brought up here and there. Seems like only a couple people out of 15+ others commenting on how they feel about cops actually have a problem with them and seem to keep having one for some reason.

It only took Tom how many tickets to figure out street racing is Illegal??? Sorry but this stuff makes me mad. No offense to anyone but seriously look what was going on and where you were at the time.

As for the muffler scraping- Did you lower your car all the way to the bumpstops or what? A lowered 2G is going to get attention from the cops... especially if there are sparks flying everywhere :stick:

CVD 04-21-2004 04:56 PM

I agree with Barton on a lot of points. I have been pulled over seven times, only twice with reasonable explanation. I wont bitch when I'm pulled over for a legitimate reason, but the shit they pull out of their ass is just insane. I dont get profiled for my driving style either, as it isnt an issue. Maybe its just a problem of location, Burnsville has got to have the shittiest cops in the whole damn state, no question about it.

Raptor 04-21-2004 05:13 PM

Everyone says how they will be a hero when the time comes but in reality, not that many step up or pull over. No one else pulled over when my mom was in the ditch because they weren't looking for that type of situation. She was pretty well hidden in a wide median full of water. She was there over an hour before the cop found her. Make light of it if you wish, but if he had not spotted her, she would not be here. Being in a situation and reacting to it doesn't necesarrily make you any different than anyone else, choosing to be in a position where you have to be in the line of fire, deal with some very sad accident scenes with horrible sites like dead children etc, for low pay and very little respect, that is noble. You can have whatever opinion about it you like, but unless you are providing some service to humanity that is equal with less expectation for reward what is that opinion worth?


With the ticket thing, if you think you would respond equally to all the drivers on the road regardless of what they drive, drive down the highway and watch for a civic with a big wing, evaluate what goes through your head and tell me you don't think any differently of anyone else on the road. A few biased thoughts will probably sneak into your head, now consider that your job is to make people obey the law, would you think there could be more to the story if you saw that same car in an area where others have been racing, guns have been fired, people hit with cars and a lot of general public disregard has occured. Wouldn't you be more apt to want to make a point to them or at least check further into the situation?

Black97civic 04-21-2004 05:36 PM

Disclaimer: This post is directed entirely at when people get pulled over for made up reasons or other bullshit.

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With the ticket thing, if you think you would respond equally to all the drivers on the road regardless of what they drive, drive down the highway and watch for a civic with a big wing, evaluate what goes through your head and tell me you don't think any differently of anyone else on the road.
But police officers are supposed to be above that. They are meant to protect and serve, not to single out honda boys or black poeple. They are supposed to protect the public from dangerous people with disregard for the law.

Here's an example, say your mom was driving a riced out accord when she crashed. What would everyone say if he stopped and said "fuck it, shes probably just a street racer, and a menace to society"

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would you think there could be more to the story if you saw that same car in an area where others have been racing, guns have been fired, people hit with cars and a lot of general public disregard has occured. Wouldn't you be more apt to want to make a point to them or at least check further into the situation?
Again, the police should be above the prejudice. If the person was doing something wrong when the cop was following them, then pull them over and shake things down a little, thats their job.

But if they follow the logic that "DSM's are at midway, racing is a midway, therefore all DSM's race at midway" we are gonna be in a lot of trouble. They are getting in trouble for supposedly racially profiling, but they don't get in trouble for profiling based on what you drive, it seems like they should be allowed to profile for everything, or nothing at all. If a cop pulled over a black guy b/c he knows that some black people commit crimes, and that was his reason for pulling him over, he would be pretty fucked if the guy who got pulled over decided to call a lawyer or the NAACP.

Cops = Good
Crooked Cops who break rules = worse than criminals in my eyes

Raptor 04-21-2004 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Blue89Quest@Apr 21 2004, 03:36 PM
Disclaimer: This post is directed entirely at when people get pulled over for made up reasons or other bullshit.

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With the ticket thing, if you think you would respond equally to all the drivers on the road regardless of what they drive, drive down the highway and watch for a civic with a big wing, evaluate what goes through your head and tell me you don't think any differently of anyone else on the road.
But police officers are supposed to be above that. They are meant to protect and serve, not to single out honda boys or black poeple. They are supposed to protect the public from dangerous people with disregard for the law.

Here's an example, say your mom was driving a riced out accord when she crashed. What would everyone say if he stopped and said "fuck it, shes probably just a street racer, and a menace to society"

That is really taking things out of context. The idea is that they would look for indicators that could reveal a more illegal action happening. You save everyone equally, period, no ones life is more valuable than anyone elses regardless of if they are an inmate or a priest. The only time someone loses that equal status is when they decide to start shooting or harming others, then it is there decision.

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would you think there could be more to the story if you saw that same car in an area where others have been racing, guns have been fired, people hit with cars and a lot of general public disregard has occured. Wouldn't you be more apt to want to make a point to them or at least check further into the situation?
Again, the police should be above the prejudice. If the person was doing something wrong when the cop was following them, then pull them over and shake things down a little, thats their job.

But if they follow the logic that "DSM's are at midway, racing is a midway, therefore all DSM's race at midway" we are gonna be in a lot of trouble. They are getting in trouble for supposedly racially profiling, but they don't get in trouble for profiling based on what you drive, it seems like they should be allowed to profile for everything, or nothing at all. If a cop pulled over a black guy b/c he knows that some black people commit crimes, and that was his reason for pulling him over, he would be pretty fucked if the guy who got pulled over decided to call a lawyer or the NAACP.

Cops = Good
Crooked Cops who break rules = worse than criminals in my eyes

I have yet to have a problem with my DSM getting pulled over, I don't think it is the car make rather than the mods that are done to attract attention.


Jacek 04-21-2004 06:10 PM

i think teal is like camo. ;) only been pulled over once in this car and it was my fault for it so no complaints.

Shifty 04-21-2004 10:04 PM

I'm not gonna pretend to have had experiences with them in big city. Live in the small towns and try to have a fast or just nice car that you like to play around in. You might as well not have a car at all. Followed for blocks and anytime you stop to talk they are there 2 mins later tellin you to move out.

Now I live in South Dakota w/ iowa license plates and even then they don't bother me. Our cops are different, they KNOW they have better stuff to be doing, so when I decide to romp on it from stop light and the cop two cars back passes me and goes to pull over a drunk driver, amazing. I think the cops here are so much better.

SlowWhite 04-22-2004 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by Raptor+Apr 21 2004, 04:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Raptor @ Apr 21 2004, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Blue89Quest@Apr 21 2004, 03:36 PM

I have yet to have a problem with my DSM getting pulled over, I don't think it is the car make rather than the mods that are done to attract attention.


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That's because your car looks completely stock and your an old guy (j/k). If you were to put on Aftermarket Rims alone I'd bet you'd start to get some notice from police.

I think John L did his car the best. Went for the complete stock look.

SlowWhite 04-22-2004 09:30 AM

With all the talk about police stopping to help, and what not. I can honestly say as I think Most of you can honestly say,

At somepoint you've all probably witnessed a Police officer driving right passed someone in need of help.

I know I seen it several times each year. Where there'll be someone on the side of the road or something. And in no way could the Cop miss it unless he had his eyes closed but kept on driving.

I have all the respect and the world for the Cops that actually do there job right. It's just the ones that do are becoming very few between.


Like the newport Police that are a great example of proper Police Officers.

When we'd play frizbee and football down at Red Rock - Subway they usually would either completly leave us alone or they'd drive over and give us compliments on how well we conducted ourselves. Saying that if you could get the rest of the people to act like you guys we'd never come down here and you guys could do what ever you wanted.

He even made reference to Racing at Red Rock saying that they'd be down there with there cars racing if they weren't working, etc.

That's the mentality that all cops should go by. - You do your job, you protect and Serve the people, treat people fairly. And Respect each other.

They realize there are better things to do then bust up a bunch of people who are acting responsibly. (And that's the key to the whole thing. "Acting responsibly")

The reason why Red Rock, Uni, Kasota, all got ruined are because people were acting irresponsibly (ie: Like dumbshits) and making neusense's of themselves.

When people just went to Uni and parked and stopped blarring there stereo's, doing burn Outs, starting fights, Uni was the bomb. But now a days it's just out of hand. And that's why I don't even bother going East of Mobil.

-Brian

jimwross 04-24-2004 11:55 AM

The enitre structure of the police system is sort of messed up. Think about it. I'm not saying that there aren't good police that are great people and do thier jobs everyday to protect the citzens. But there are also the police who become police officers just because they get off on a power trip. You all know what I mean, the kid in high school, who goes to tech school to be a cop becuase he think's it'd be cool to be able to the beat the shit out of someone.

I was pulled over in hennapin county (I'm not sure if that's the spelling, I live up here in fargo). He first told me that I was pulled over becuase I had a radar detector sucktion cupped to my windshield and that it was illegal. That's fine, I can live with that, I was in the wrong and I admit it, if thats the law. But then he started getting off the hook. At the time, I was driving my rice mobile, a body kit, turbo wing, just a muffler welded on etc.. etc.. Anyway the muffler had the silencer in, wasn't loud at all. He kept telling me that I had no cat. I was like its just a muffler welded on! Anyway he wouldn't believe me, until I politely asked for his permission to show him where it was. I guess that was good enough for him, I didnt have to get out. He then went back to his car, and this is where it starts to get ugly.

I'm an adopted korean kid, so my name doesn't sound korean, James Ross. My parents are white, and my car was registered to my mom (camille ross). The police officer comes back, and firsts asks me "Did you steal this car?". WTF question is that? He then went on to tell me that the car was registered to a lady named Camille Ross (my mom), and refused to believe me that she was my mom (he even had my license!). So I sat there, on the side of the road for another 30 min while he called my house to verify. Now if thats not a cop being racist, I dont know what is.

A few weeks ago, up here in Fargo, I was pulled while following a few cars (Evo, Eclipse's), the guy walks up to the window and says "You're going to get a ticket," was a complete ass about everything. My offense was that I didn't fully stop a stop sign, which, I flat out admitted to him right then and there, and I was willing to accept the consequences, becuase I was in the wrong, but he some how was expecting me to be a cocky teenager and talk shit back. He continued on his speech, telling me that he coudl have pulled over of the five cars I was following, but chose me becuase "you were the easiest." I dont know why he told me this shit but it was out of line.

So basically what I am saying here, is that the selection process for police is flawed in itself, there are going to be some great police officers, very educated, come from good backgrounds; but there are also going to be those who are racist, ignorant and just want to whoop some ass...

I dont hate police, If i do something wrong, I deserve to get pulled over and ticketed, thats the law. But sometimes, It is just apower trip.


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