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Buy a replacement PCV valve from the Mitsu dealer. Do NOT take the vacuum line off the wastegate, doing so will make the boost uncontrollable!
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Oh no that would be no good. Is there someway i can keep my waste gate open? Like simply turn down the boost as much as possible with the Manuel boost controller?
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Hook the boost source line directly to the wastegate if you want to run less boost.
Or disconnect the wastegate actuator arm from the the turbo, it'll just stay open that way. But you won't make any boost at all until probably 4 or 5k rpms. |
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PCV is located on the back of the valve cover. It routes to a nipple on the intake manifold.
Are you talking about the vent on the passenger side of the valve cover? As long as that's not clogged or plugged, I'd leave that alone. |
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Oh fuck. Yeah, what they said about the routing of the line directly to the wastegate. I forgot how I did it because it was so long ago.
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Didn't you already do a boost leak test? With pressure in the intake system, you'll know whether or not your PCV is leaking...when you did it, did you pop the oil cap off and see if a TON of air escaped?
Yank the ecu, pop the cover, take a pic, post it here. Not a cell phone pic, a nice clean digital camera pic, preferably with in macro mode. |
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It sounds like your clutch is not disengaging correctly. I'd go for new master & slave cylinder's, as they like to die (especially the slave); I broke a transmission when my slave went out and I ground a gear. It's worth $50 to know that's not your issue and won't be in the near future. Watch the 'proper clutch adjustment' video on jackstransmissions website. |
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You have a long ways to go and many other things to try before you even need to consider dropping the tranny and opening it up.
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-Transmission i would need to get some RTV. A new slave as well as master cylinder.
-During the Boost leak down test literally all the air was coming out the inter cooler piping. After i purchased some new hoses. The leak stopped.The next place where it escaped was from the injector seals. (The tester that was used was not a quality one. I am in the process of building a better one) Therefore i repeated the test multiple times to ensure there was no air escaping. -Where exactly is the ECU located? Under the radio next to the passengers left foot right? I looked it up on the internet but would like to make sure. -Regarding the pictures. I will mess around with the attachments and find out how to post without problems. My Phone camera is pretty good quality. I will use a Digital Camera though. -This sure has turned into a project :( Will i be able to get all this done within the next two weeks. |
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Getting back to car racers comment. The PCV vent did look pretty bad. My question now then if the hose connects to the intake manifold. What will happen with the air after i replace the nipple with a little air cone filter?
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Making no boost at all would be the preferably way to go. Until all problems are sorted out. It feels like i am making somewhat of a progress.
Does anybody know a definite reason for the blue smoke out of the exhaust. The car obviously burns oil. If it isnt ring related. The only other things left are -Turbo -Or -Valve seals/ (Problem with the head assembly) That is all i can come up with as of right now. |
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Why you are talking about putting a little filter on the intake manifold? Replace the PCV valve and leave everything else alone.
The ECU is located under the radio as you mentioned. |
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A tone of stuff :( Why does everything awesome(DSM) always have a negative side to it. The car smokes A LOT! I need to convert the video files in order to play them on here or on youtube.
-Oh and by the way i am not that old. The car part on the other hand, yeah is pretty old! I like having a car as old as me. We will see who survives longer. |
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No not the intake manifold. Sorry i must of been thinking about something else. I will replace the PCV and reattach the hose just how it was.
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If its running rich enough that the oil smells like fuel, something is obviously way wrong, more than a pcv valve or anything like that.
1. Your caps in the ecu have leaked 2. the fuel injectors are not 560cc and are way bigger. 3. that chip in the ecu is all screwed up and holding open the fuel injectors way too long 4. the Maf is bad, and saying your getting alot more air than you actually are. I wouldn't drive it much till you figure out the fuel smoke, cause if the oil stinks its probably washing fuel down the cylinder walls... |
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Wow, now that is something different from what i have been told. When i thought about it though i came up with the same conclusion. What you described car psyco sounds pretty believable. You guys are the professionals. I mean as soon as i changed the oil, and started the car. Letting it fully warm up I sniffed the dip stick and it definitely smelled like fuel. My injectors are 560's though that is for sure. I really need to take a look at the ECU i will do that 1st thing tomorrow. I am at the point where i think i should just get the car towed to a shop and have them deal with it.
I was told that all that needed to be done, was to change THE INTAKE MANIFOLD!!! As well as rebuild the injectors! Now i have to replace pcv (cheap), ecu, etc. Watch me have to rebuild the motor because it is a piece of crap! Getting a new chip would cost at least a 100, a tune is $350, shifter cable adjustment $160, a new Mass air flow 100! Those are still cheap rates. |
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shifter cable adjustment $160!!!!!!! for real!!!!! ill do it for half
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Heck that is what i was saying!! Ill get someone of the forum to do it for some Mountain dew and some good FOOD! I am telling you man, them shops dont play around no more. Makes it all the harder for a BROKE COLLEGE KID THAT LIKES DSM'Z TO MUCH!
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dude, if the injectors are bad, it could be causing your problems... Maybe you should look into what the seller told you was wrong first.
No one guaranteed that your PCV, ECU was bad. They were just giving you things to look at. Have you actually attempted to look into this stuff? It sounds like you're in way above your mechanical ability. |
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No. Thats not the problem. I already replaced the Intake manifold. I already replaced the o rings as well as upper injector seals. The only thing i have not done yet is the ECU, PCV, and Shifter linkage. I did everything the seller told me to do. That was the 1st Thing i actually did. After that did not solve the problem. I decided to ask for some help and advice. From every one on the forum. The seller says the chip, the mass air flow, everything is in good working condition. If every thing is fine though why is it still acting up. If i could return the car i would.
I doubt that will happen though. So i will sort everything out. Until i run out of funds. Then sell the car. |
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Have you performed a compression test? If so what were the numbers? Knowing them will either allow you to point the oil burning problem towards the turbo or motor. Sounds like there's 10 different things wrong at the same time.
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alright... I'd say at this point you should get your hands on a stock ECU and stock injectors and see how it runs with that. Keep everything simple, and build from there with mods.
Stock fuel pressure regulator? Stock pump? Maybe you should see what your fuel pressure is at. |
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I have been thinking of going that route. I talked to a few friends about it to. With quite a bit of stuff eliminated will the unchipped ecu be able to sort everything out properly? I want a stock air intake system, mass air flow sensor, cone and everything. The stock injecotrs stock ecu etc.
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if your going that route you cant just pul the chip, cause then there would be no tune at all in the ecu. You will need another ecu or find the original chip for it. if your going that route i might have a spare stock chip
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Alright thank you twack! I will let you know weather i will go through it or not.
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If you could put in stock injectors, a stock ECU, and a stock MAS, that would help a lot with troubleshooting it.
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i got a 1g maf and the stock chip let me know if you want
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Sawweett!!! I should express my ideas earlier. This is what the forum is for. I mean hey the worst that will happen is, i get yelled at for my spelling ^_^. Twack i will pm you tonight.
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I have all that stuff also, maf, ecu, injectors.
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take his, hes closer and has everything
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Yeah, Rochester is quite a ways. The fact a few things have been eliminated in the car wont interfere with the stock settings at all then?
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Lol Funny! No well yes most of the time I am online. I DON'T HAVE A LIFE NO MORE IT ENDED AFTER I PICKED THIS 1G UP.......I MEAN WHAT DO YOU EXPECT LOL! I use my lap top for every single class in school. so i always have a mitsu style tab open. Which i check if not obvious frequently. Plus it is my Home page.
What i meant by things eliminated are: -FIAV Eliminated -Emissions Eliminated -Catalytic Converter Eliminated (the cat could cause i little problem i believe, but the computer should adjust for it? |
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You'll be fine putting in a stock ECU, MAF, and injectors for the testing. My guess is that the car will run much nicer.
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1g's don't care about the cat being there or not, It was 95 when the OBD-II mandation came out that they had a O2 sensor after the cat. Hell my 90 doesn't even throw a CEL with no O2 hooked up. I can't remember for the life of me what the FIAV elimination even is but it should run either way, without smoking out the neighborhood especially.
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Fiav shouldn't cause a problem, neither should the emissions. Like half the dsm's have these things eliminated without a problem. Idk of anyone I know with a 1g, that has a cat lol...so you should be fine on that.
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Hahah! Ok thank you very much you guys. I wish summer was just starting! We could get this thing up and running in no time! I cant drive down the Street and melt all the snow off the road!!! Because my tail is smoking so much. That DSM would be a Road Hazard Smoking everything up!
Them 1G's i guess are all about BRUTE FORCE HUH! No o2 sensor required no cat....Thats fine with me! |
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