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C3L1CA 11-04-2008 01:50 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 263268)
Did you go with the 2.5" housing or the 3" one? The 3" seems to be overkill....

I just went with the 2.5" housing. The 3" was just too much more money and I didn't know anybody that could weld at the time to make me a custom down pipe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 263269)
Brad can I get a ride sometime?

For sure, I'm down to give anybody a ride. Hopefully I can make it out to a meet before it gets too cold. I have night class whenever there is a meet, which kinda sucks.

I've had a really good experience with FP, I ordered my exhaust mani throught their group buy on tooners they had going and they were still really nice and took their time with me even though I'm sure their phones were ringing off the hook (could hear them in the background).

hippiekiller 11-04-2008 02:39 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 263306)
Only problem I have had with FP is there "coating" turns out there coating is houseshit and comes off instantly when blasted compared to other, basically it coated like one pass with a can of spray paint.

The black stuff or the gold stuff? I know they had some issues with their older coatings, but the newer stuff seems to hold up and does the job.

sleepydsm 11-04-2008 10:56 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Don'y say get an FP setup; because I've always wanted that.

I can't check out the dsmlink forums as I am not a user; One of the main reasons i wanted link was for the forums! haha, maybe I should get Link first so I can find a deal on a turbo.

I'd ideally like 400awhp on e85 on a Dyno Dynamics; I won't be like Swifty and cry if I don't reach my goal! I'd be happy with 300awhp!

The only negative about the FP stuff is the over priced o2 housing, hence why Blageo23 is making his own.

My options: (excluding supporting mods)
20G/Tial 38 (lightly used, and good price from a friend)
FP manifold
convert ebay dumped o2 to external gate (like Kittay's)
~$1000

Or
FP3065
FP Mani
Tial 44
Fp/ or custom O2
~$2500

asshanson 11-04-2008 11:04 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
I got a standard dsm flanged o2 housing with a recirculated 40mm Tial WG for $275, I like mine because it's not loud, better option than dumped in my opinion. I'm sure you can find one for tial 38.

Halon 11-04-2008 11:06 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
As I said earlier, I'd go with the FP setup. I've just gotten to the point where I want things to just fit, and just work. FP builds stuff to go specifically onto a DSM, and to all fit together specifically in a DSM, and they have proven that their stuff performs well in DSM's. You do pay a price for it, but god I've spent enough money and time making "random/various" parts all fit/work together, that to me it justifies the slightly higher bill when things just work, and fit.

sleepydsm 11-04-2008 11:15 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
I am a machinist, we do welding at my work, (we actually do a lot of stuff for Par Nuclear, Brandon!) and a few friends own a small fabrication shop. So I could modify my o2 housing myself or make an o2 housing.

turbotalon1g 11-04-2008 11:27 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
^Shit if you got the tools then do it.

Super Bleeder!! 11-05-2008 12:57 AM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
As far as 02 housings go, I paid DB to fabricate a v-band downpipe for my setup. The whole downpipe cost about as much as FP charges for their 2.5" 02 housing. Granted im sure the cost of steels now will impact the current price greatly.

C3L1CA 11-05-2008 01:02 AM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Yea the price of the 02 housing was what sucked the most out of the whole fp setup. I paid more for my 2.5" 02 housing than I did for my 3" ss which kinda sucked to me but they've got you stuck if you don't know anybody that can fabricate. You can always see if you like the 3065 after a ride though, could be thinking up all this work for nothing. haha

scheides 11-05-2008 12:44 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Decisions decisons...if you'll be happy with 300whp or so, go 20G, the price is right and it's a good setup. If you want more, then go for the FP3065 or, like I suggested above, contact FP about doing a bolt-on HTA3076.

Here's one on a pretty tricked out evo. If you got anywhere near the numbers this put down, you would be in good shape :)

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=332881

sleepydsm 11-05-2008 05:09 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Whats the difference between the HTA and non FP"3065"? They are both ball bearing, are the wheels larger or something? Doesn't it supposedly spool up quicker and make a bit more power at the same boost level?

If I did go FP, I'd most likely mod my 3" SS downpipe by making a vband 3" o2/downpipe 1 piece part.

20G only sounds good right now because it's cheap, but I don't want to upgrade twice.

JET 11-05-2008 05:28 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
HTA is a custom billet wheel that is designed by FP.

scheides 11-05-2008 07:05 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Yup, custom wheel with uber modern aero, made of high-grade aluminum...making it lighter, more powerful, and faster spooling (better torque).

GsXtUrBo98 11-05-2008 08:12 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
I'm kinda leaning toward the PTE SCM61 the mitsu bolt on standard journal bearing myself but you can get what you want... Not too sure because I'v only done a little research on it and heard its a good turbo.

sleepydsm 11-05-2008 10:43 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GsXtUrBo98 (Post 263640)
I'm kinda leaning toward the PTE SCM61 the mitsu bolt on standard journal bearing myself but you can get what you want... Not too sure because I'v only done a little research on it and heard its a good turbo.

I'm glad you are considering that. Anyways. :)

If anyone sees a good deal on FP setup, or any decent turbo, aka on DSMLink forums, LET ME KNOW!!! Thanks

C3L1CA 11-05-2008 11:08 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
There is a 3065 on the link forums. Seems like a decent deal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by red97gsx (Post 279242)
I am listing for a friend. This turbo has barely any run time on it. Trying to sell for non car related reasons.

FP3065 with a polished compressor housing and s/s back housing. These options alone are $250 extra. Turbo to include Oil and coolant lines.
Tial 44mm wastegate with dump tube.
FP S.S. 2.5inch o2 housing-This costs $250.00 brand new from FP.
Thats $2455.00 worth of parts.
Looking for $1600 for the setup. Would be willing to break up if turbo sells first.
Any questions, please contact Ryan at ry9587@yahoo.com
Thanks


Swifty1638 11-07-2008 04:40 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Kevin, I got a 67 for ya..that way I can get a hta88 :)

-A. Swift

sleepydsm 11-15-2008 02:03 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
I almost bought an HX35 today. Hahaha. Still looking for deals, might end up with the Holeset HX35 in the BEP .55 A/R housing...

sleepydsm 11-16-2008 10:46 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Anyone have any opinions on the HX35? For the same price I could get a ball bearing PTE GT3076 bolt on...

Super Bleeder!! 11-17-2008 12:00 AM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Get the garret.

Kevin 1G Drummer 11-17-2008 01:23 AM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
I vote Garrett as well.

Shane@DBPerformance 11-17-2008 11:22 AM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Don't get a GT3076R though, unless you are getting it cheap and only looking for something 50-trim sized.

sleepydsm 11-17-2008 05:00 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Anyone have anything BAD to say about the Holset HX35?

Also, I just picked up a Tial 38mm for $100!

sleepydsm 11-17-2008 10:11 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Read a lot about the Holset; not many people using them.... But the ones who are have impressive results and are happy with them?

spoolin d dub 11-30-2008 08:29 AM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
For your goals the BEP housing HX-35 is the way to go. Another option if you want to spend the money would be Borg Warner bolt on S200 series turbo.

sleepydsm 11-30-2008 06:11 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
I'm most likely going to be buying the Holset and housing brand new, because I'm an idiot. So the cost is similar... It's not about the price, it's finding a turbo I will be satisfied with.

turbotalon1g 11-30-2008 08:03 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
You are buying the holset new as well?

sleepydsm 11-30-2008 09:29 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
That was the original plan lol. I have been watching a few turbos on ebay, and have looked at what the diesel guys sell their "14Bs" for.

scheides 12-01-2008 01:20 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Lame. Hta3076 or bust. Do twin scroll if you really wanna be different!

Halon 12-01-2008 01:41 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 266991)
Lame.

Lame is when you hype it up but never run one :) BaZing!!

turbotalon1g 12-01-2008 06:56 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
lol.

sleepydsm 12-01-2008 09:45 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
I've decided anything is better than a 14B, but I'm not gonna shell out $1700 for just a turbo, and not to mention the $$$ setup that has to go with it. I can get a turbo setup that will make me happy and meet my goals for a lot less.

spoolin d dub 12-07-2008 07:33 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
I know someone with a VR4 that has HKS 272 cams reground to HKS 280. He has the internal wastegate HX35/w BEP housing and it hits full boost 19psi before 4000rpm, and that's with 280 cams. I was really impressed how that car pulled at 19psi.

check out this site.
http://www.theturbotrader.com/produc...products_id=54

Super Bleeder!! 12-07-2008 08:48 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spoolin d dub (Post 267711)
I know someone with a VR4 that has HKS 272 cams reground to HKS 280. [/url]

Thats probably the one of the silliest/stupid things i've ever heard.

turbotalon1g 12-07-2008 09:02 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
I am looking into doing HX35 with external gate.

spoolin d dub 12-07-2008 09:57 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!! (Post 267721)
Thats probably the one of the silliest/stupid things i've ever heard.

Don't mean to get off topic.
They were reground way back in the early 90'S. They were a prototype from WEB cams. When HKS 272's were not even thought of for a street car and there were no HKS 280's for DSM in the US. His cams were bought off NABER back in the day. When all there was was HKS and WEB cams. So Web reground the HKS 272 to be more aggressive. To me personally they feel a step or two above HKS 280. He is the fourth owner. Cams ran 11.40 with a 16g in the early 90's. They are so aggressive there is no vacuum on them at idle, on a stock head. A true race cam. What were you running back then?

Back on tract. The HX-35 is a good look for 400-500whp goals.

Halon 12-07-2008 10:04 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Won't you be, won't you be, please won't you be, my NABER.

sleepydsm 12-07-2008 10:37 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spoolin d dub (Post 267711)
I know someone with a VR4 that has HKS 272 cams reground to HKS 280. He has the internal wastegate HX35/w BEP housing and it hits full boost 19psi before 4000rpm, and that's with 280 cams. I was really impressed how that car pulled at 19psi.

check this out this site.
http://www.theturbotrader.com/produc...products_id=54


I already knew about that site, but thanks!

JET 12-08-2008 03:37 AM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
Please don't compare Web cams to HKS cams :D

turbotalon1g 12-08-2008 09:07 PM

Re: Help me choose a turbo setup!
 
SO did you decide.


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