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Thanks man. :)

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Haha My friends and I always stop at that Marathon when we ride through Stillwater. The car looks pretty sweet!

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It's like the Stillwater gas station. Because it's the only one downtown :)

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Couple new pics on my flickr too, don't want to keep spamming the thread with them, click the linky if you wanna see more pics.

http://flickr.com/photos/8847832@N07/

Thanks for all the feedback btw guys, you all rock. :D

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Your car looks pretty sick and has some decent performance. Great job so far on it.

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Going for a good mix of both. :) I'm hoping to push a bit higher than 250 this spring.

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Sexy man, loving the in-dash deck, very slick! Bawlah!

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Fuuuuuuck me.... As I had mentioned before, RIPP's presence on the C4G forum is much stronger, and they are seemingly getting more and more willing to push our platform, which is making me happy, since other than RIPP we have hardly any support.

Anyway... recent post from RIPP:

"We've done an extensive amount of stock and then mod's testing:

Stock 4TH Gen:
217whp GT

RIPPMODS 4TH GEN Eclipse N/A NO BRAT
YouTube - RIPPMODS 4TH GEN Eclipse N/A NO BRAT
In this video you will see a N/A 4th Gen Eclipse GT V6 Automatic trans, being DYNO tested. It will Produce 238whp, running a cold air kit and an axle back exhaust system and NO BRAT.

RIPPMODS 4TH GEN Eclipse N/A WITH-BRAT
YouTube - RIPPMODS 4TH GEN Eclipse N/A WITH-BRAT
In this video you will see a N/A 4th Gen Eclipse GT V6 Automatic trans, being DYNO tested. It will Produce 245whp (an additional 7whp), running a cold air kit and an axle back exhaust system and the addition of a RIPP-BRAT BOX.

RIPPMODS Long tube header test 276whp RIPP Dyno NO BRAT
YouTube - RIPPMODS Long tube header test 276whp RIPP Dyno
RIPPMODS tests its new long tube header for the 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse V6 producing 276whp using a 2.25 inch exhaust and intake on our in house Dyno Dynamics Dyno.

RIPPMODS 286whp 4thGen Eclipse Header test 3in exhaust
YouTube - RIPPMODS 286whp 4thGen Eclipse Header test 3in exhaust
RIPPMODS performs a test with its new Long Tube header with a 3in custom exhaust installed. 288whp was easily achieved at operating temp no BRAT.

TECH"

Between my Intake, Headers, and cat-back Exhaust... i've gained about exactly 20whp. Considering the money i've spend, I guess it's not that bad, but the headers were a BITCH to get in, ask Mark and his Dad, and compared to the numbers RIPP is talking about here, i'm a feel like I made a big mistake by taking the cheaper route with the short tube headers vs RIPP's long tube.

I'm thinking about selling my headers and upgrading... 275whp un-tuned off just re-doing my exhaust sounds pretty tempting, that would make 300whp within reach without having to go boost.

Also, they run dyno dynamics.

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Wow, the gains from the long tubes is a lot.

The gain differences between the long tube and short tube might not actually be that much, if nothing else is restricting them. Has anyone tested the shorties? We have done swaps from shorties to long tubes on NA 300whp Mustangs and there haven't been power gains on the dyno. Maybe there would be real gains on a more crazy, bigger displacement, higher power NA build.

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Also, I think this is part of the reason their supercharger kit seemed to make such an amazing amount of power to me. Their headers are making much more power than the ~20whp (comparable to mine) that I thought they made, and more like 40-50whp. (between intake exhaust and the headers)

So their exhaust system alone, tuned, gets you relatively close to 300, the s/c kit will then get you the next ~115whp to get to about 400, but I think if I could get close to ~300 N/A that I would probably prefer that, and I could run a small wet shot if I really wanted any more power.

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Well the shorties are a different make, they are from RRE.

Also they are talking cold air, and i'm in short ram right now, which I also recently found out is INSANELY hot compared to cold air, so that's a couple ponies for sure. basically here is the exact different between my car and theirs.

Their 276whp dyno'd GT: Cold air intake, RIPP long tube headers, Custom 2.25 inch exhaust (probably no cats, but with a high flow reso and muffler, but i'm not sure)

My setup: Short ram intake, Short tube headers, Stock exhaust from headers to cat (stock cat still in place), cat-back magnaflow exhaust (basically very minimal gains, a couple if anything at all, all I replaced was stock resonator and muffler)

I dyno'd last fall with you guys at DB at 235-236 on all 3 pulls.


I'm so stressin...

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Anyone one else getting gains like they are posting?

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Like nobody has the RIPP long tubes cause they are so expensive. 1000 bucks. And nobody has really been posting dynos with them so nobody has any reason to be the first to dive in.

I've seen 1 guy claim he has them and never seen a dyno sheet and he posts like once a month.

I'm also starting to wonder if I need to have something checked to see if i'm losing power somewhere other than just not getting what I expected out of what i've done so far.

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I mean to go from 217whp to 288whp with IHE, seems like too much on an NA car, unless the stock stuff is horrible. Those are better than NSX numbers. What is the factory HP rating at the motor?

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263chp.

I think that is also tuned, for the 288 number. Also might be a manual vs the 217 being an auto.

So 217 being totally stock auto trans.

288 Intake, long tube headers, header back exhaust, tuned (we run pig rich, in case you don't remember my dyno from fall), manual trans.

Can probably safely say 5-10hp is attributed to lose in the transmission between auto and manual.

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I think you're making very good power considering your mods. A CAI won't show a lot of gain on the dyno since your hood is open, the real gains to that will be noticeable on the streets.

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Still though... i'm at 236 vs stock 217.

RIPP is advertising 288 (realistically like 275 for me, being an automatic, right?)

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The fact that their cars aren't running cats and your car is, is possibly why you aren't seeing the kind of gains they're claiming.

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Picking up 19 whp on a DD dyno for doing N/A I/H/E w/stock cats is not bad at all. Your factory exhaust was well designed as was the intake with that little WOT flapper door. Was your car 217 whp stock? If not, its tough to compare going from one dyno to another even if they are both DD.

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I was thinking that as well... but would that really account for the huge amount of difference? I don't know at all how much a cat makes a difference, but it would have to be like 10whp to even make the difference that I am lacking.

But maybe it would? I dunno... haha.

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Yeah good point. My fall dyno was the only dyno i've done, so I had no baseline. I should have really done one before I did any mods but I was a cheap ass and decided against it.

Thinking about it with a bit more of a clear head, if I did the Y pipe and cut the cat, and got a tune, that COULD possibly account for the 20-30ish whp I feel that i'm lacking... MAYBE.

I dunno... i'm gonna talk to RIPP and see if I can score some kind of deal, I wanted the long tubes in the first place, but bought the shorties cause a pair of used ones came up and they were half the price of the new ones.

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How much is the RIPP supercharger going to be? Any other dynos by someone else on a different dyno with their supercharger? I guess it's a pretty big motor and the base HP and gains are similar to 2000 Mustang GT with a centrifugal blower.

I don't know WTF that BRAT does or how it does it. They really like to talk in circles about it. It only seems to connector to 1 sensor on the 4G, and it isn't even the main MAF sensor or O2 sensors.

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Supercharger is about 4000. Give or take shipping.

I don't know how the BRAT does what it does, but I know it's only a piggyback.

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Found a deal for 500-600ish for brembo f/r calipers and rotors. I'm second on his list, first deal he said was pending but has been pending for a while, told him i'm ready to pay as soon as he gives the word so hopefully he'll just pass up the other person if they keep him waiting.

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I lost the bid on a compleate set last night lines,pads,rotors also cam with them
lost by 5.00. they sold for 305.00
tim just go to ebay

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Are they like brand new condition too? I'm lazy and don't want to clean/paint them :(

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most are

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Car of the Month! :D

www.club4g.org

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Looks great man. This is jeff we met at the all-mitsu cookout. I am the guy that you played halo with long time ago. You still have the same rims as me haha and they look good. I have seen the RIPP products before and they have progressed further and further for the good. They were trying to supply the 3s crowd a while ago and I think there were two or three people on 3si that had the setups. I think I remember a dark maroon colored SL that still has it installed. The BRAT box your talking about is supposed to be for newer OBD systems that have the ECU relearn issues. This supposedly tells the computer that it does not need to relearn and also allows you to tune with piggyback. Love the new Tails and Im not sure if you had the halos on the headlights back at the cookout. I think you should keep your exhaust setup and get a high flow cat or straight pipe it/o2 simulators all the way back and then dyno it again and see what you gain.(my opinion) Good luck with the 4G modding hopefully youll get closer to your goals!


, Jeff

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Hey Jeff nice to hear from ya!

Thanks for the kind words an advice! Hopefully we can shoot some shit again at the next cookout. :)

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way to go

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Congrats man!

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Yeah hopefully ill have my car sold within the next month and pick up a nice stealth or dsm :-). I know a guy with a 3l swapped CSVT for a good price but I dont know if I can do another FWD car. I hated going from a 300zx to a cougar in the first place lol but thats college. Ill be at the cookout for sure and if ya want to get pics and stuff I can probably make it I have a decent kodak cam too.

, Jeff

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Congrats! I was just thinking last night we should try some car of the month thing here.

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Good work, now maybe you can get some non-STD ladies to want your nuts!

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Gonna need a pro wingman like you fa sho.

Anyways... back to all that drama over the RIPP numbers. Upon further research and what-not, it appears they use a dyno dynamic, but adjust it to match typical dyno jet numbers. So the 20+whp I thought I might have been missing with my headers vs RIPP's headers is probably almost all attributed to the difference between a REAL dyno dynamic and a dynojet.

This ALSO means the RIPP Supercharger is realistically 350ish on say DB's dyno. With my automatic anyway.

Go figure it was a dyno confusion, eh? haha.. seems to always be that.

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350whp on a Dyno Dynamics is still a lot of power!

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Oh yeah, for sure. I didn't mean to kind of play that down, but I dunno... it seems a lot less... amazing? now... more realistic. Basically 90-100whp for $4,000, instead of almost 150whp.

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Is that installed price? Does it come with an intercooler or not?

, Jeff

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come on tim. I can build you a turbo kit with a single pte 50 trim could make that power easy for a ton less money.