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thats what i was thinking!..... to bad the eclipse isnt this car with awd...

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I think it not having AWD makes it cool. We don't get a lot of turbo 4 cylinder RWD cars.

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I agree, less parts to break once you hit HP. haha

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word 2 that. less shit to worry about.

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Here's another thing. That RWD tranny should bolt up for use in older applications. :-) Finally, something better than a Starion tranny or TH350.

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Bolt up to other 4B11s

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I agree. As much fun as AWD is, I love me some RWD.

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I want one. These are pretty damn sexy. I will wait a couple years, buy one used for like 12k and mod the hell out of it. Sounds like a hella fun car.

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http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/i...howtopic=82168

Young grasshopper, you have much reading to do.

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So the nearest Hyundai dealer says they can have one by the end of Feb... Sooooooo tempting. Anyone else looking to scoop one of these up?

I will be test driving one for sure but I dont know if I want a car payment again.


Edit: I was reading that they were talking about making a convertible model in 2010... Interesting.

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Old news....

I have been following and posting about this car as have others for awhile!

Hyundai's plant here is one of the most automated manufacturing plants in the country, they run lights out. It is very sophisticated and neat!

I have been eyeing these up with thoughts of interchangeble parts with the new evo and such, RWD would be fun, Brembos and Limited slip are optional, so you can get a base model 4 banger with the cool stuff. Hyundai even let a lot of aftermarket companys get a sneak peak at these cars; they all went right to the turbo 4 model! I guess there is a motor mount in the way that might limit turbo size, but eh I'm sure someone could fab a manifold to get around it.

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Huh? Whats old news?

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4B11T in the genesis coupe.

G.E.M.A.
Hyundai, Daimler Chrysler, Mitsubishi. Global Engine Manufacturer Association. The 4B11 is one of their engines.

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Lol... I never said it was new news. This thread is from 2007. Just didnt want to create a new thread about it so I posted in here.

Just curious who has been looking at them and to see if there is anything else new with them. I'm quite interested.

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From everything I've read, all I have ever heard 100% is that the car will have a 4b11, and it will be turbo. BUT, there is the standard 4b11, and the beefed up 4b11t that went into the evo's. What I have not heard 100% is if this car will have the beefed up 4b11t, or just the standard (not as beefy) 4b11 with a turbo slapped on it.

If you have links, please share because I really want to know. This would be an awesome car to have I think.

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Shit, this car is coming out that soon!?

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I was just thinking about this the other day. haha I didn't know they were planning on releasing it already! I might have to look into it...

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Motor mount in the way? Are they dumb or something? Either that or the engine is so low that the mount is on the side of the engine.

But yeah, moving the turbo location isn't a problem.

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I've been doing some research on this car tonight, and it looks like there's plenty of room for upgraded turbos. It looks like the turbo is some variant of a TD04, and the manifold looks like it'll need to be upgraded pretty with the turbo. Judging by the size of the exhaust ports, I don't think head flow will be an issue.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...oupeEngine.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...CoupeTurbo.jpg

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Damn... What is a 14b going to be the first upgrade? At least its not reverse flow like Evo's.

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Ghey, it's got the DV/BOV mounted to the compressor housing like the VW's do. If the turbo is the same size as the one on the Ralliart, it should make ok power for a 'fun' car with a tune and some basic mods. Should be pretty easy to bolt-on something bigger, and with what blouch and FP are already doing with the stock evo X turbo, who knows what we'll see for this application.

This platform is looking cooler and cooler...Kevin, when are you buying one? :D

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dang, it's pretty compact in there, they had to remove the power steering pump to remove the turbo. Not saying they're bad mechanics, but was it really that difficult?

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Hyundai's are actually very easy to work on. You have to remove some extra stuff every now and then but I've never failed to beat warranty time on a repair working for them. And they don't pay crap for warranty work there.

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If it's anything like my kia, then I agree. It is easy to reach stuff on that car.

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One more thing I forgot to mention last night is that they won't be running a MAF. It will use 2 MAP sensors and an AIT sensor. From what I've been hearing of the JDM and KDM tuning shops, this thing shouldn't be too hard to tune. Some guy or maybe a shop, I'm not sure who it is has one running a GT30R and they're making 360 on a DJ. Stock looks to be around 170 ish DJ. It'll be interesting to see what the stock motor can handle.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/H...4.htm?Ref=Blog

And Scheides, I'm not sure when I get one. I'm thinking probably mid summer. I'll probably get the 2.0T with the track package. 225/40/19 front, and 245/40/19 rear Bridgestone RE050A Potenzas, 6spd manual tranny, black leather interior, 13.4" monoblock Brembos up front and 13" monoblock brembos out back. Higher rate springs, and bigger sway bars, and the Torsen type LSD. It also looks like it'll be coming with a nav system later on.Oh, and a spoiler.

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I demand a ride.

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I'm sure many rides will be given. haha

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moustache rides?

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I think this car might make me have to take out a loan.

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So does anyone know for sure which version of the 4B11 is going into this? I'm extremelly interested in this car, but can NOT find out which version of the 4B11 it has

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The Neon SRT-4s had a similar all-in-one 16G on them. The BOV was built into the comp housing, but also the exhaust manifold and turbo exhaust housing were all 1 piece, which limits upgrades without a replacement exhaust manifold.

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yup, just like anna's 2.0t FSI in her vw.

Brandon, the word on the street is it will be nearly identical to the evo/ralliart motor, but there is speculation on if it will be assembled in the same facility, with the same q/c...who knows. We won't know for sure until they're out, people buy them, and they get taken apart. If they hold up like the 4b11t in the evo X seems to be, this should be a decent platform. Hopefully the rear end doesn't suck ass.

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I agree if it's just like the motors in the EVO's it will be awesome. But I'm just worried that since this is going to be making stock DSM power levels with a tiny turbo, at a very low cost, that it may be the weaker 4b11. If it does have the better motor though, I'm going to have to try hard to restrain from getting one. They just remind me of a DSM. Just cheap performance.

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The cars have been out in South Korea for quite a while now and their are pics of them sitting at the port in California, but there doesn't seem to be too much info on them. Anyone read Korean? I have seen claims of a 9.3:1 compression ratio versus the 9.0:1 ratio found on the Evo X, which might not be good.

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I would wager hyundai used a head of their own design as well.

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I've also heard that there might be a few differences between this engine and the one in the EVO. Most of it is just speculation and assumptions though. Some people think the reason they used the smaller turbo and made it have less hp is so that there would be a reason for people to buy the v6 car. Either way, I'm gonna at least test drive one when they get here and see how it is. One other thing I've heard is the flywheel/clutch is gonna be a weak spot in the drivetrain. I guess they're using some kind of 2 piece flywheel to cut down on vibration and make clutch engagement smoother.

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Just did a little more digging around, and it sounds like the compression ratio is 9.3:1. The pistons are pretty similar to the EVO pistons, but the rods look quite a bit different. No definitive word yet, but they could possibly be forged. Supposedly the block and crank are the same though

EVO rod/piston
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...rod-piston.jpg

Hyundai rod/piston
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...rod-piston.jpg

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I just read a site that they claim the 9.3:1 and that the turbo model was limited in output to give the v6 a reason to be bought, the mentioned something also about "they left headway for the drifters and tuners allowing up to 29 psi". I don't know if that means their maps sensors on read that high or what. Interesting to see the car is OK with low octane and makes more hp stock if you use premium, but it isn't NEEDED.

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Evo rods look so tiny!

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Well 29psi would be "technically" as much as a 3 bar sensor would read so I would assume that's what they are going by. Interesting to see a higher compression ratio and a different rod. Almost looks to me like the Hyundai rod is more "beefy".