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She's right on the Neon build. And the 4g63's dominance. But you get more at Wal Mart.....everyone knows that Tauni.

BTW: I actually would build another 420a. It would be a gutted Neon for a daily driver. It'd be a cheap/fun car.

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The maxed out stewart warner boost gauge at 40psi. I remember that avatar.

Definitely badass.

Carefull what you ask for kid. The 420a isnt a bad engine, it just cant handle what the 4g63 can. Stock for stock anyway.

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Yes, I made 531fwhp on a Dyno Jet with stock internals and drove the car for a couple years. I made numerous pulls of 40+psi on the dyno.

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I witnessed these pulls, as did a small handful of other people also.

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In the end he can do what he wants, but the fact is there is a better option out there for making power if he would just consider the idea of a better starting platform.

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I think he knows that... Yet it still keeps being reiterated..?

I stated in my first post that, it was my first post and I didn't want to come off on the wrong foot. Guess you just mis interpreted.. That said, I'm not here to make friends necessarily..

Should I care? I don't know you so... I didn't say anything wrong anyways. NT... Turbo, they're both DSM's. The guy said you could put down 214 with $300 in a DSM... Just seemed silly to me

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Techically, the 2G NT is not a DSM, but luckily for you this is now "Mitsu"Style. FYI, mouthing off to Blizz won't get you real far on this board ;)

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Blizz is a pushover. ;)

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Yeah, he is more of a Flurry now ;) He better come back soon though, the Paper Bag Mafia is all but dead :(

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I didn't ever mouth off to anyone in the first place. Just got accused, then I defended myself.

I know "technically" n/t's aren't DSM, but my 95 NT came with the DSM sticker from the factory so shove it!:p


I'm not a fan of whoring up threads, but it sure seems that's happened by me with the help of a few others so if some posts need to be deleted or edited feel free.. But I say we keep this thing on topic for the sake of the original poster?

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All threads on this board get whored :D

Here is what I have to add to this thread: If you want to have a fast DSM, save yourself tons of effort and costs by selling the NT and buying a nice GST/X.

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Welcome to mitsustyle.com, we are not accusing you of nothing. This is the way we are on this forum. Most of us know each other. We love fast women and fast cars. That include tauna too. She loves fast women she just drives a slow car. Just crack open a beer and enjoy this site. Trust me you won't get disappointed and yes we loved to whore. To bad your in Houston. I would of like to see your setup and maybe even give you a fun race with a slightly modded DSM. Just calm down a bit. We are just stating the facts because we have been in DSM for along time. Some of us has been in it since the early 90's and some of us just got into it.

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^^ Its tauni with an i at the end!! lol

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I will be back up in the good ol' MN in December. I'd be happy to meet up with all you guys. I think it would be kind of fun to see how I fare. Keep in mind, I am running stock injectors, no tune, and 6 psi lol. Because of my injectors being stock, my fuel pressures see excess of 100 psi haha. Someday soon hopefully I will get some bigger ones and an SFMU.

Oh, and "technically", none of the 2g eclipses/talons are DSM's either in that case S2K. DSM officially ended in 93 or 94 I believe.

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Oh and Nash, what kind of times did you make with the car at 40psi?

EDIT
Oh and Tauni, our 2g NT cars actually have more in common with an Avenger/Sebring than a Neon. I don't know why most people just say it is basically a neon. The engines are mounted reversed compared to each other as well. The Avenger and Sebring even share the same dash and most interior trim pieces with a 2g eclipse/talon.

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1993 I reckon! I remember that b/c I got pissed since my car was a '94.

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As far as chassis, then yah, Avenger/Sebring. But those are a lot heavier than a neon. So if I was going to build a 420a, I'd stick to the neon.

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I never ran the car when it was running 40psi. The car actually made less power running 40 then it did running 35.

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Give me a stock Tsi and $300 and it will put down 214 whp on a dynojet easily. This is the bang for the buck that everyone is talking about.

People like what they have, it is human nature. That doesn't mean it is the best choice though. Sell the RS and get a GST/GSX!

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i agree with everyone else... start with a better platform... go TSI/GSX/T

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we will see how i feal about my little gs when spring comes around! i got a lot of body work to do "NO rust" just a really f-ed up body kit that i have to replace. and then re paint it! i will see how much of a deal the vendor i go through will give me ,that would be the deciding factor for me! my good friend bought a lot of stuff through him "agp 61 trim turbo OMG it's huge" and every thing that goes under the hood of an SRT-4, so i might get a pretty kick ass discount!

the good thing is i got a free blitz like body kit from my friend when i bought the car!

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just an idea but have you thought of trying a evo 8 motor and trans?

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LOL @ 61 trim

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No body kit is a good thing.

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Yahhh.. I was going to have words, but I'll keep them to myself. lol

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We had a big part in a build by a kid that lives down in Rochester who had a GS 420a. In the end, and three years into his continuing project he finally made about 380whp on my Dynojet. But the headaches, crazy $$(he had an unlimited budget) and pain in the ass it was to get to that point were just not worth it. He said the same many many times. Basically wished he had never started modding it. He spent at least three times what it would have cost(to make similar power) if he had a factory turbo dsm.

In the end, he sold it and bought an MKIV TT Supra.

And btw, Nash was on my dyno(just furthur proof of the claim).

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Holy crap! Your NT has a F'd up body kit, needs a paintjob and a lot of body work, and THEN you're going to start trying to make power on a 420a? That's about as bad as it gets. Is it an auto too?
You are about to pour a ton of money into a car to try and get it to do 2 things that it will never do: Look good and go fast.

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Speedfreak.. Thats the SADDEST story I've ever head. Like really. When I got to the part where you said "unlimited budget" my jaw dropped and all of the sudden I was VERY angry. What a dumb ass.

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Speedfreak....I want to know two things.
1.) What color is this Supra menacing the streets of Rochester.
2.) What is this kid's name.

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ask the chatroom foo

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Since then, he sold the Supra(I wanted to buy it). It was Anthracite. And his name was.. shit.. I forgot, can't believe I can't remember.. oh well, I can look it up on the dyno charts, or in the receipts, if you really want to know.

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There is no use on convinicing the 420a crowd. If he has a dream let it be. When the nightmare comes. It should wake him up. I still say a person with 3k into a 420at vs a 1k 4g63t. The 4g63t will wax the 420t by many bus lengths, but than it is not my money or my car. Yes, there are problems with 4g63t motors but I seen the 4g63t motor with over 150K on a stock motor but I had never seen a 420a stock over 100k without issues. Good luck with the build. I hope you don't regret it one year from now. Yes, you mentioned that there is a couple of guys on the NA site that is racking up HP. Go on any 4g63t forum and you will find that more than 10% of the people are making big hp out of stock engines and little money. The only regret I have of owning a DSM is that it like to mark it parking spot.

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61 trim is no joke! i will get you all pic's, made by AGP! full 3in cat back ex! JE froged pistons and rods!

but ya my 420 will have to wate till spring then i will make my final decision!

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61 trim is indeed a joke sir, you are getting your terms mixed up.

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Yeah, it is a 61mm turbo, which is a 56 trim (same turbo I have). This isn't a big board and noone on here has a huge budget, but there have to be 10 members on here that have/(conversion from DD) made over 500 whp on a dynojet. Are there that many on the national 420a board?

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he just doesnt want to take the hint, let him make the wrong decision... oh and BTW ditch the body kit! body kits are weak.

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I don't want to argue anymore. It isn't worth my time. blesi660r, if you want more info about the 420a, pm me.

BTW, my car has over 140,000 miles on the stock motor and I have no issues whatsoever.

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will do! thanks alot for all of the info! have a good turkey day!

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No one is argueing with you. We are just telling the truth. GS and RS are more of a show and no go car. It is good that you manage to boost the car, but how much mod is left do you have before you can break the 400 HP. Keep us updated when you do. I would like to see how much you have spend and how long the car is going to last under the boost. Post picks of you OD over the 140K. I would also like to see that too.

I am curious what is the top speed of a GS?

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My 420a talon topped out at 117 mph