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I'd never buy a car without driving it first!

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EVOs are sweet but if you want ride comfort than look elsewhere. They are an ethusiaists car which means they handle awesome and give excellent feedback while driving the car hard.

The Stang you drove must have been fucked up if you think it was as slow as your stock 1G. They have double the stock HP and are RWD. Should have been way way faster even though it was a vert.

Get an EVO, it will be as easy to work on as your DSM. Modding it or fixing it should not be much of a transition.

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Thanks for everyone's input.....!

Found this local, time for another test drive!

http://www.klinemitsubishi.com/New-I...toryId=6895541

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Kline won't let you test drive that car till you buy it ;) Fact is, good luck getting any Mitsu deal to give you the keys to any EVO on the lot.

I'm pretty sure you'd need to have financing approved and be one signature away from buying the car before they think about handing the keys over.

Also when Nash and I went to Kline I noticed the MR had a sticker price of 10K over the MSRP due to "Fair Market Value" They qucikly dropped the price down when they knew the 2 of us where no where near that stupid even though they claim just just sold one the week before for that adjusted price.

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Kline sucks...never buy from them...once they earned your business they will f#ck you anyway they can...

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Yeah I argued with him on the test drive, he finally gave in, but it will be the last thing before I pay for the car.

I'm going to check out another Cobra, a vette and an Sti before I buy anything.

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Mitsu dealerships need to stop thinking the EVO is a rare exotic and can't be test-driven. Every other dealership realizes this when they are used and freely allow test-drives. Also, other car manufactuers freely allow you to drive one of their cars in the same price bracket as the EVO.

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MR's are pretty limited, I don't think they want to waste them during test drives. It makes sense.

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Yeah maybe I guess, but there is no reason why they can't let the regular EVO's be test-driven. I can understand it if 4 high schoolers show up asking for a drive, but not when its a middle-aged man or a younger more "professional" looking person.

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Sorry but I'll NEVER buy a car unless I can drive it first, PERIOD.

I'm just 'funny' that way, <like 99% of all sane people are>

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Exactly. Sure, you may know that it handles and what not in a supreme way, but what if you don't like the way it does all those things. Every car like an Evo or what not handles or drives or whatever in a different manner. Just because the car is awesome, doesn't mean it's for everyone interested in something along those lines. You gotta be able to test drive what you're buying.

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Honda is doing the same with the SI..can't test drive...

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Cause they S <uck> I <ncredably........?

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Just don't shit from Kline..

I had acouple of bad things from them....

Last time I bought a car from them with expired tabs...I had 2months worth of run around about my sticker/tabs...everytime I stopped or called in for it...they kept telling me to come back next week..Finally the fuckers told me that the tabs were never included/added in the paper work and I would have to go buy them myself...I told them why didn't they tell me this in the first place rather then wasted my time...

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BMW did the same with the Mini's. The fact is a very large percent of thest cars that are in our market get beat to shit and the dealers weed out anyone not serious but ot allowing random drives. They must figure the loss of 2 sales a month is better than the time and money spent fixing brand new cars and having their value drop 3 fold before it has it's first owner. The mini dealership at southdale had 4 Minis totaled out in less than a month by test drivers.

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I wouldn't have bought my MR if it had more then 10 miles on it. Luckily for me Brookdale doesn't allow test drives either until like was mentioned "you're one signature away".

So if they would have let even two "self proclaimed" serious buyers take a test drive they would have lost a sale to a "real" serious buyer.

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I'll let you test drive mine Howie. ;)

I agree with you, but I also agree with the dealer policy.

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Cool, If your serious, that would really help me decide???

How do you REALLY like your MR on a scale of 1 to 10?

What's the good, and whats the Bad?

I may drive the MR LAST, and the Vette and Sti beforehand.

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Yea like the 2 other guys on here DON'T BUY FROM KILNE! They will do you right up the pooper!

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don't buy n don't take ur cars to for repairs...my 2g went in for recall n they tried to charge me for the work...bs..:rolleyes:

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I drove the first one in Duluth, still had all the wrappers on it ;)

For what it is and how much it costs, its a VERY cool/fun little car. Its pretty quick (would beat a stock DSM) and it handles quite well.

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Oh yea i know that too! They tryed the same bs on me too!

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I don't know, I'm looking at some REAL Clean used Evo 8's off the Web for $10K less than that MR?

Really what does the MR package Really get you?

Will it make you FASTER?

It's just trim and a few gauges right?

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It wont make you faster in a straight line if thats what you want.

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Yeah like CVD said... not any faster in a straight line. All you get is the DCCD and lighter body parts (ie. thinner windows and whatnot). Same engine setup. I'm sure there's a few other minor things I'm missing though.

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When the MR was first introduced it had a larger turbo (or was it just more boost?) and the 6-speed tranny. Do all EVO's now have that? The MR does get special suspension that rides nicer and handles better. There is a lot more to a car's performance than just straight line speed.

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The MR has a bunch of features that set it apart from the others. Just off the top of my head I know it has a lighter roof which lowers its center of gravity. And lighter wheels I believe for less rotating mass. I don't think it has a bigger turbo though. I actually recall that horsepower being similar to a EVO 8 but its like 300 lbs lighter or something. I would have to go and check to make sure but I am too lazy, I just got up.

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Yeah I'm wondering since all I want is a fast, straight line stop light to stop light car, and NOT a RoadRace/Rally car if an Evo is Really a good fit for me?

Really I'm looking for a newer style "Muscle Car" I guess?

Maybe time to go back and look at another Cobra or even a Z06?


Comments.....?

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To clear up the misinformation here's a grid of the features of all three:
http://www.mitsubishimotors.com/MMSA...pecs.jsp?t=all

All IX's have ACD now (active center differential) [DCCD is for subarus] {no US Evos have AYC}, the turbos and engines are all the same on the IX's but are a significant upgrade to the VIIIs (slightly larger turbo and MIVEC).

The RS and MR both have aluminum roofs. The MR's biggest features are the 6spd transmission, BBS wheels, Bilstein dampers, and areo parts (vortex generator, wicker bill, etc). The MR is probably not worth the price. I had a hard time deciding between the RS and MR and if I hadn't gone into Brookdale and gotten a good deal I probably would be driving an RS now.

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Sure, it will at least give you a feel for an Evo. I usually go to the Wednesday night MNSC meets at Culvers off of Bass Lake RD and 494 if you want to stop by.

From 1 to 10, I like it a 10; if it wasn't so ugly I'd give it an 11. ;) It's just put together so well it's hard to describe. Everything works well together. A lot of people say it's a "driver's car" and some put it ahead of the exotics they've owned or driven as far as the sheer joy and ease of driving it.

It really is a purpose built race car though, so if you like to cruise a Vette would be a better choice. The Evo is ugly and rides relatively harsh. Especially the regular Evo dampers (the MR's are a little softer) [a regular Evo with lowering springs will probably knock your teeth out]. :p My MR has relatively expensive coilovers though, and even though it's lowered I think it rides even slightly softer then the Bilsteins. :eek:

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From what you describe I think you'd be really happy with a Vette.

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Thanks for your input!

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Yeah I agree with CD, from everything you are saying, a Vette or Cobra sounds perfect for you. Maybe not even the Vette since they can turn ;)

Have you looked into the new GTO's at all? Pontiac is practically giving the things away and with 350 or 400 hp (depending on year) they get up and move pretty well.

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I just talked to the guy with the black 04 vert cobra, he's willing to let me REALLY get on it and really test it this time, <the first test drive he was VERY nervous about having me even drive it at all!> and he'll eat 2 Grand cause of some the paint scratches.

If it feels better now that we have agreed that I can open her up for the 2nd test drive, I may live with a few scratches for $2000.00 off.

Who knows of a good local body shop?

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$2k off sounds good. A good detailer should be able to buff your scratches out with a rubbing compound if they aren't too deep (like past the paint into the metal). Glad he is letting you get on it though....kind of strange that he originally wouldn't since thats the whole point of the car.

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maybe howslow didnot present himself as a serious buyer...more like a kid off the street who just want to stop by for a quickie...

How many time did you go to the dealer to test drive that wrx...etc..and the sales man tells you to take it ez....

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Howie is a middle-aged man with children and a wife, nobody would confuse him for a joy-riding kid.

I always have gotten test-drives the first time visiting a dealership and I've never been told to take it easy. One Mazda salesman actually called me a pussy because I wasn't beating the car hard enough.

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Yea I could understand that if Howie looked like some high school kid that came with a friend to "test it out" but considering that Howie is older and mature looking -no offense- im not sure I could see the seller looking at him that way...

The dealers are always going to tell you to take it easy, so you dont break shit. Ive been lucky with testing cars and have only had one ride along. :) Heck the guy who sold me the M3 didnt even need my license or anything, just told me to go drive it and test it out.

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I just went to Morries and they wouldnt let me take the Mazdaspeed Miata or the Evo without a dealer in the car.

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Thats odd :( Did you still drive both?