Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

If you don't have any spare plug wires you could swap #1 and #2 (coil and engine). Then if #1 turns black you know it is the wire. If you have spare wires then just put another one on.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

I'll have to swap wires as I don't have any others. I'll start the car and let it warm up, that way I can also do a warm compression test for you guys.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

Ok just warmed up the car and did another compression test along with swapped wires. But only ran car for 5 minutes at idle reving up to 3K and holding it on and off through out. (temp gauge came up but didn't have dsmlink on to see if it was actually up to 196-200 was probably more like 145-160 temp as I was still able to put my hand of the intake with it hurting to much (ie: pulling on throttle cable to rev up motor)

Compression from passengerside to driverside: No spark, No fuel
165
170
180
170


When I pulled the spark plugs, little bit of smoke came out the #1 cylinder, by the time I got the 2nd one out all the smoke was gone.

Anyrate there wasn't no change in the #2 cylinder spark plug even though I changed the plug wires. But probably didn't run it long enough to make a difference as I only idled it, and then held the RPMS at 3K on and off for 5 minutes.

Also fixed the Slop in the shifter 1 of the bolts that holds the cables to the tranny was missing and the other was almost completely backed out. I had spare grommets from my other 6 tranny's I've broke so I just replaced the missing bold/gromments and tightened the 2nd one up and she felt as good as new.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

Those numbers aren't too bad. Did you re-check the one that was 165 to make sure if wasn't a false reading the first time? How many cranks are you letting it go and are you holding the gas pedal to the floor?

I would put in some new plugs and drive the car for a bit and see how the plugs look after a day or two with the wires switched around. Your compression isn't low enough or that different from 1 cylinder to the next for it to be that causing the problem. Maybe pull your valve cover off also and make sure nothing popped off up there.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

I did the #1 cylinder twice the first time I got a reading of 165. But I didn't hold the gas pedal down. I disconnected the Fuel injectors, and the Coil Pack so I don't even know if I needed to hold the gas pedal down. But I did anyways. I cranked all cylinders over for 10 revolutions.

tomarrow I'll have some time to drive the car around. Once I check it over. I also checked my SMI to see if I was missing any bolts which Might explain the smoke that I saw when I pulled up to the entrance gate at moroso. But no bolts were missing. So I'm not sure what happened there. Other then today I noticed the top to what I think is my brake fluid reseviour(sp) was almost unscrewed all the way.

The Tech guy turned it at the track. maybe it was loose when I got there or something and the fluid splashed onto the intake? who knows. But It's tight now. And I can't seem to duplicate the smoke issue.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

Ok I think I found the issue... I just started reviewing my logs and noticed they don't look right.

I'm putting together all my runs (only up to run #3 so far but) in order and on my 3rd run I started taking off with neg 3 degrees of timing.

DSMSTYLE doesn't have the format for dsmlink logs - but I'd really love to post them or show them to the tuners on here to get there opinions on what's going on.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

Ok I have them online but I have to get my brother to write me a scipt so that they are viewable for you guys. I can't figure it out. So hopefully he'll be able to do if for me first thing tomorrow when he gets into work. I"m about to email him right now.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

email them to me. sales@lse-performance.com

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

Ok Scott showed me how to get the files to show up here's the link to the folder with all my runs along with 3 others for reference. as long as you have downloaded dsmlink off there website at www.dsmlink.com you should be able to view them. I'm currently runny version 2.5,2.8 which if you don't have you can get the updated version from the downloads on there site.

http://www.scottbarton.net/Brian/Ecl...t%20Page/logs/

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

Set the timing to 5 as John and Shane instructed and then went for a drive, the #2 cylinder is definetely not firing or something. Took it for a spin to the store 2 miles There and 2 miles back. On a brand new set of spark plugs (NGKBPR7ES) and when I pulled them they looked identical to the last set.

Did another compression test this time DSMLINK showed 203 coolant temps just prior to removing spark plugs.

From passengerside to Driverside:(spark and fuel disabled along with Gas all the way to the floor)
#1 - 175
#2 - 170
#3 - 180
#4 - 160 (checked twice)

did it again just to make sure:
#1 - 180
#2 - 165
#3 - 180
#4 - 160

Cam gears are also still set to zero.

I did notice a Whining sound coming from my car when ever I got on boost. And as soon as I'd let off the gas it went away immediately. Sounded almost as if you put a blade of grass between your two thumbs and blow. Got louder the as the PSI increased.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

What gap are the plugs at? And....do a boost leak test!!

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

It sounds like the intake manifold gasket is leaking. Or atleast thats the only time I have heard that kind of noise. I would gap the plugs to 28 on you car Brian.

~John

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

They are all gapped to 28. I bought a new gapper at the same time I bought the spark plugs as my old one was in rough shape.

I just bought all the parts I need to do the boost leak test but now I have to go build it. (total cost was $10) The coupler was supposed to be $8 but I convinced the lady at the self check out that there was a price discrepancy and got it for $2.79 as it said on the shelf

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

just tested out the leak detector and right off the bad I have 1 big one coming from the coupler that comes off the turbo. Tonight I'll jack the car up and really go to town. So far though that was the only area I am hearing a leak.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

Well just got done fixing boost leaks. And here's how things turned out.

Leaks:
1)coupler/IC pipe off turbo, the clamp wasn't even touching the pipe anymore. Only reason it stayed in the coupler was because of how tight it was in the FMIC side.

2) Boost Controler - is leaking big time. But I've heard that was normal so I didn't do anything about it

3) BOV line that goes into the intake. - wasn't tight around the fitting. (could just slide it on and off. Only reason that was staying on was because the line is a little short, so it put pressure on the side of the valve thing. I put a smaller clamp on it and it seems to be holding now as I no longer hear any leaks.

4) TB was leaking by the intake manifold. right under the Biss screw. Some more copper spray fixed that.

5)And last but not least: My brand new 1G Magnus SMI has a pin sized hole in the #4 runner right by the head (ie: the runner closest to the passengerside)

At first I couldn't tell if it was the bolt or not as it's so little air that all I was feeling was a cold draft. I came apon while trying to see if the intake manifold gasket was leaking. tok me quite awhile to see the hole. But it's visable, I tried taking a picture of it but due to the angle it never shows up.

The hole is on the weld from the runner to the Head Plate.

Otherwise the rest of the car checks out I didn't find anything else wrong. I did switch the #1 injector with the #2 injector to see if it's the injector that's failing. But I haven't gone for a drive yet. as I've been messing with this damn laptop for the past 45minutes to get the internet working on it. As Jenny is on the computer.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

all right just got back from testing out the car. And have good and bad news.

To start off ON this site I put together all the high light logs starting with warm up of the engine, Wooping up on a C5 like no tomarrow, to once again blowing the I/C pipe.

http://www.scottbarton.net/Brian/Ecl...t%20Page/logs/

Just look for the logs with todays Date:

I think I figured out the spark plug issue. When the I/C pipe is connected the car runs awesome, pulled straight to 8500rpms on 1 of my test runs with 55.8lbs/min

But what I think is the I/C pipe being blown off (to hot to pull right now) the EGT's go through the roof, and the car run's really lean, on one of the logs you can see where the pipe blew off, the 02 which were holding fine, then dropped to the floor during a pull, and the logs after that you can see the car sputters, the whistling sound came back, and no top end again. I stopped doing pulls right away so that hopefully I wouldn't ruin the color of the spark plugs. I swapped them and wanted to see if it changed anything on the #2 cylinder. But I have a feeling since I was about 4 miles from home when the pipe went, I might have blotched these testing runs.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

Well the I/C pipe came loose again. (NOt completely only enough so that the clamp doesn't make a seal around the pipe... I hopefully adjusted it so it won't happen again. But if it does I'm probably going to have to try to find a longer piece of coupler I need about another 1" and that should do it.

It's raining now so I can't test the car. But if I can get it up and running with out problems, then I might head out to Moroso tonight for there night drags.

spark plugs: #2 is still black and a little wet (not drowning) so I'm thinking the coil pack is bad since I swapped the #1 and #2 injectors and the problem didn't fallow, so I think the coilpack has to be the problem.

I have to get a new valve cover gasket along with the spark plug ones. when I took the VC off to re-Torque the head studs I noticed they were all cracking. which explains the minor oil I've been getting ontop the valve cover. If the spark plug issue continues when I go to pick up the gaskets I'll probably end up buying a coil pack. Unless you guys think there is a better route I should be going?

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

I just read through this and I think you're on the right track. #2 is definitely missing, which means a lack of spark. Considering your lack of CEL it's probably an intermittent problem. I'd swap out the coilpack next and hope for the best.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

#2 and #3 cylinders would be the same coil. If #3 doesn't look too bad, then it might not be the coil. You could try swapping the plug wires at the coil between #2 and #3 to try to check it the #2 post is bad. #2 and #3 always fire at the same time, so it is okay to have them on backwards.

Re: Nopi Nationals Sept 24-25 Moroso
 

I swapped the #1 wire with the #2 - and no change.

But I'll try running the #3 coil into the #2 spark plug, and the #2 coil to the #3 spark plug. (correct shane that's what you're telling me to try?)

Anyrate other then the spark the cars running back to what it was, so I'm about to leave in the next 15minutes to go to Moroso for there night drags. It's says "No Times" on Friday, so I called to see if that actually ment they don't give times out on Fridays and the lady said it cost's a $1 for Times... hopefully she ment for the entire night, and not "Per Run" I just want to make 1 clean pass with no problems, hopefully see some high traps or a low ET... (really I'm hoping for an 11 sec run on 92 oct, and higher then my 115.78mph previous best on pump gas)

I think I adjusted the I/C pipe so that it'll stay but I'm going to bring my leak tester incase (they have air pumps by the go-kart building so it should be far enough away from the noise that I'll be able to hear it)

Also I'm hoping they'll have the scale open so I can finally know how much my car weighs.