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Speedfreak 05-13-2005 12:01 AM

Re: acf and tuning
 
VC swap(AWD guys) - $150
Tuning - $140/hr, time would depend on your setup...

Kracka 05-13-2005 12:48 AM

Re: acf and tuning
 
When installing the AFC, you don't need to solder the wires. I always used aligator clamps or whatever they're called and had no problems. I've also installed AFC's in others' cars with the clamps and not one has every given trouble.

Shane@DBPerformance 05-13-2005 10:29 AM

Re: acf and tuning
 
You can use the little crimps that come with the AFC. Just don't use those plastic quick connect/vampire T's that just tap into the wire. They are just a problem waiting to happen and I have to fix them on cars all the time. They are fine something trivial like the light bulb on your boost gauge, but I would want a good solid connection for something as important as your fueling. I usually solder the wires when doing an AFC.

Alpine TSi 05-13-2005 10:44 AM

Re: acf and tuning
 
Well the considering a certain amount of voltage or signal could be lost by a bad crimp or other horsecock connection, I would ALWAYS solder those wires. Especially since it is something as important as an AFC.

Now I know people have done it with those shitty crimp style connectors, and it works, but you never know. And why not spend an extra two minutes and solder it.

I work in mobile electronics, going on my fourth year, and I have seen countless malfunctions from poor connections, always crimp style. With solder all you have to worry about is getting a cold joint, and that can be easy to find if you have touched a soldering iron before.

And on the real topic, if you are very confident in your tuning abilities you may just want to save money and go to RS motors. Otherwise just have Shane do it, he won't blow up your motor and can offer a lot of great advice and help.

And about the dyno thing, I put down 313hp at RS motors, and maybe a month later with no changes to the setup I put down 321hp at Elite. Sure sounds like thsoe corrections are right on to me. And yes Ron always asks for the weight of the car before dynoing, but that mainly will effect where the turbo will spool due to load. But it can also effect total hp.

1slowdsm 05-13-2005 03:33 PM

Re: acf and tuning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedfreak
VC swap(AWD guys) - $150
Tuning - $140/hr, time would depend on your setup...

So it's $150 just for the swap itself and another $140/hr for the tuning? WOW.....

Aww man! My car is getting $$$$$$$$$$$$$.....Anyone wanna plan a bank heist? Hehe...j/k!!!

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 05-13-2005 03:53 PM

Re: acf and tuning
 
You can do the swap yourself and save the $150!

1slowdsm 05-13-2005 05:27 PM

Re: acf and tuning
 
Yeah I know. Only problem is....I have no idea how to do it or even know where it goes...haha. Tried to look for pics of it installed and couldnt find any. Is it a permanent mod or Temporary?

Shane@DBPerformance 05-13-2005 06:28 PM

Re: acf and tuning
 
Temporary.

EclipseGST 05-13-2005 06:28 PM

Re: acf and tuning
 
Temporary... Just so you can dyno the car in FWD mode.

1slowdsm 05-16-2005 08:44 PM

Re: acf and tuning
 
Would I be able to drive it like that for like 15-20 Mins to Elite and then back after the dyno and all?

EclipseGST 05-16-2005 09:47 PM

Re: acf and tuning
 
Yes.

CarPsyco84 05-17-2005 12:27 AM

Re: acf and tuning
 
Just make sure you don't drive it with a welded VC in AWD, I've never done it, but im sure it isn't good

Kracka 05-17-2005 01:13 AM

Re: acf and tuning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CarPsyco84
Just make sure you don't drive it with a welded VC in AWD, I've never done it, but im sure it isn't good

A lot of people do, helps you get better traction on the lauch. Its not exactly good for the car though.

Nash 05-17-2005 01:54 AM

Re: acf and tuning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CarPsyco84
Just make sure you don't drive it with a welded VC in AWD, I've never done it, but im sure it isn't good

I've been driving with one in my AWD for the last couple years with no problems.

TheBlizzard 05-17-2005 06:15 AM

Re: acf and tuning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash
I've been driving with one in my AWD for the last couple years with no problems.

Yeah its not bad when you have power steering either.;)

CRAIG

And as far as the AFC goes. When I installed mine I soldered all the wires and then insulated them. I had some quick connect but I don't really trust them. Like Shane said on something trivial I would use them but not with a tuning device. It took a little more time but I think its worth it and it will never fail due to a lose connection.

1slowdsm 05-17-2005 09:04 PM

Re: acf and tuning
 
Sounds like I'll be soldering them together. We'll see how well this works, I've never been the best at soldering small things together. Always ends up in one big clump, haha. I guess I could use heat shrink also, just incase anything breaks apart.

(edit)Is there an adapter that I have to buy for my S-AFC I? This one was off of an early '90's 240sx and I was just making sure I have everything I need before I install it?

Jakey 05-19-2005 06:32 PM

Re: acf and tuning
 
You could always use a weatherpack connecter(s) or a Deutsch connector(s) instead of the alligator connectors or whatever you want to call them.

A//// Guy 05-20-2005 12:07 AM

Re: acf and tuning
 
I use butt connectors on the majority of wiring that doesnt take alot of load. Its pretty hard for a butt connector to loosen unless there is some serious tugging on each end of the cables.


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