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maperformance 01-30-2013 10:40 AM

Re: PG 2013 - Can we get some love here?
 
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Originally Posted by Tachyon (Post 422645)
Would the domestic field involve V8's, or be limited to I4's as the current thinking suggests?

We will be allowing all "modern" domestics, this essentially means any domestic that came with factory fuel injection can run...

bramagedained 01-30-2013 10:49 AM

Re: PG 2013 - Can we get some love here?
 
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Originally Posted by maperformance (Post 422647)
We will be allowing all "modern" domestics, this essentially means any domestic that came with factory fuel injection can run...

That sounds like sort of a nightmare to try and class those fairly against imports.

You'd need a second set of rules for each category, I think, one for imports and the 2nd for domestics.

Shane@DBPerformance 01-30-2013 11:05 AM

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If the rule for a class says only 4 cylinder cars, then it isn't that hard, there doesn't need to be special rules for a 4 cylinder Cavalier vs a Honda. In Nate's rules, only the Outlaw class allowed 8 cylinder cars and their were some rules for max displacement, tire sizes, and turbo size limits.

Tachyon 01-30-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance (Post 422650)
If the rule for a class says only 4 cylinder cars, then it isn't that hard, there doesn't need to be special rules for a 4 cylinder Cavalier vs a Honda. In Nate's rules, only the Outlaw class allowed 8 cylinder cars and their were some rules for max displacement, tire sizes, and turbo size limits.

Agreed. Perhaps a displacement modifier would work such as Forced Induction = your displacement*2. Max adjusted displacement of 7600 cc or the like.

Having attended every PG from the start, I think I can state without fear of contradiction, that a vast majority of the imports that compete in the drag would get their lunch eaten by a properly sorted V8 on tires, if this went down straight up.

turbotalon1g 01-30-2013 04:55 PM

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Slick size should be 26" that seems to be a common height, not 25".

Shane@DBPerformance 01-30-2013 05:17 PM

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Outlaw says 26". 25" limit is probably to keep people from running 26" slicks. 24.5" slicks are commonly used and often the limit for many import race classes.

turbotalon1g 01-31-2013 07:58 AM

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^Most likely for Hondas. Most DSMers run 26"

URV8SUX 01-31-2013 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 422689)
Slick size should be 26" that seems to be a common height, not 25".

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 422737)
^Most likely for Hondas. Most DSMers run 26"

Most Hondas that race follow other classes like IFO, WCF, and National events and with a 67mm or smaller turbo they have max tire of 25". I'd bet that 99% of DSM's dont run slicks that have a 67mm or smaller turbo!

IE hoosior QTP, M&H cheaters slicks, ET streets, and other drag radials (DOT tire) are not slicks.

Shane@DBPerformance 01-31-2013 12:23 PM

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Wait! You are saying there are cars besides DSMs and they run real race classes?

turbotalon1g 01-31-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance (Post 422779)
Wait! You are saying there are cars besides DSMs and they run real race classes?

No, I'm saying I don't give a shit what they can fit on economy cars, and DSMs like tall tires for gearing and I don't care to spend money on a smaller slick.

turbotalon1g 01-31-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by URV8SUX (Post 422743)
Most Hondas that race follow other classes like IFO, WCF, and National events and with a 67mm or smaller turbo they have max tire of 25". I'd bet that 99% of DSM's dont run slicks that have a 67mm or smaller turbo!

IE hoosior QTP, M&H cheaters slicks, ET streets, and other drag radials (DOT tire) are not slicks.

You could say the same thing about honda's with a nice broad statement like that.
But actually most of the decent cars i see on slicks are on 14bs, 16gs, 3052s and now 35R/62mm setups with a few on 67mms now and of course the legendary GT42RRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Halon 01-31-2013 01:10 PM

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Would a 62.99mm turbo still qualify as 62.9 max?

URV8SUX 02-01-2013 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 422787)
You could say the same thing about honda's with a nice broad statement like that.
But actually most of the decent cars i see on slicks are on 14bs, 16gs, 3052s and now 35R/62mm setups with a few on 67mms now and of course the legendary GT42RRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I guess you just dont see the point......
I think the rules are fair for fwd/awd/rwd cars and will keep the classes close and conpetative!

If these were the rules simply move up to a class that allows 26" slicks if that's what you run.:spin:

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Originally Posted by Halon (Post 422789)
Would a 62.99mm turbo still qualify as 62.9 max?

Yeah I'd say so.

Halon 02-01-2013 08:42 AM

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Nice, was curious in case I upgrade my 84-75 to the 88-75 at some point.

niterydr 02-03-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 422784)
No, I'm saying I don't give a shit what they can fit on economy cars, and DSMs like tall tires for gearing and I don't care to spend money on a smaller slick.

Aren't DSMs considered "economy race cars" ?

turbotalon1g 02-04-2013 09:30 AM

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^you said it. RACE CAR!

munchgsx 02-04-2013 12:14 PM

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I don't think much will change from last year, other than adding modern muscle classes and rules. Plus setting up some sort of import vs. domestic just for fun.

turbotalon1g 02-04-2013 02:19 PM

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My eagle is a domestic!!

munchgsx 02-04-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 423066)
My eagle is a domestic!!

Then compete against the imports.

Murlo26 02-04-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by munchgsx (Post 423067)
Then compete against the imports.

well said lol :)

You are even auto like a lot of them Aaron.


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