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19TsiAwd90 01-05-2011 11:37 PM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
the only time i have had an issue with mine is the alt going out, a backup car is a good idea but not a must i love my dsm and will forever lol

Kranz 01-06-2011 12:37 AM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
Well it look like I am going to lean towards a dsm for a dd. Far as mods I was thinking cold air e16g mabey a gm mass. Cams from a 92 and up exhaust 2 3/4 or2 1/2 turbo back. And mabey 550 injectors and that is about it for mods. O the car is a tsi awd. But my driving habits are not good you could say
What I drive is a 95 mazda protege 5 speed with a 1.5t and that t doesn't stand for turbo lol and it see 5 to 6 k every day and has 262000 on it. So yea I have a led foot. But that could be it is a slow car and probley go away with a car with power lol.
Well I plan on putting in new piston and rings in the dsm do to a valve is in one piston. So does any one know of any pistons that are reasonable priced for the quality. I was looking on e bay but don't trust it lol. But has any one use NPR pistons. Are they any good?

Kevin 1G Drummer 01-06-2011 01:17 AM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
Skip the GM mas and go with a 2g mas. It'll save you a lot of drivability headaches.

Boostn2g 01-06-2011 10:22 AM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
+1^

asshanson 01-06-2011 12:09 PM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
Use stock 2g pistons on 1g rods. More than strong enough for your goals.

19TsiAwd90 01-06-2011 12:18 PM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer (Post 370097)
Skip the GM mas and go with a 2g mas. It'll save you a lot of drivability headaches.

my mods atm are 2 1/2 turbo back, e316g, bc 272, wescon pistons 1g rods(guy i bought from was building it big but i dont want it that big lol), wally 255hp(stock fpr and its fine dispite what people tell you, this came from shane himself), maft with gm maf in blowthrew(it runs fine), and a ets 7"street fmic, im waiting to put in my stage 4 clutch and my injectors to bring it to shane to have it tuned on a chip and he said i will be looking at around 350 awhp

Kranz 01-08-2011 04:32 PM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
So what is the benefit of using 2g piston ? I know that they will give you a higher compression

Kevin 1G Drummer 01-08-2011 10:12 PM

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^^ That is the benefit.

Goat Blower 01-08-2011 10:22 PM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
It's funny that people constantly mention being stranded from an alternator. Mine went out yesterday and I had to walk two miles home. Luckily I have other cars to drive, but it was kinda fun getting the old girl out for a spin.

Kranz 01-08-2011 11:09 PM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
Lol that is life.

cmspaz 01-08-2011 11:14 PM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
LOL, only time my old Talon ever "stranded" me was when my alt went out, and I was lucky enough to have members here around to get my battery charged enough to get me home.

scheides 01-09-2011 08:55 AM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kranz (Post 370095)
Well it look like I am going to lean towards a dsm for a dd. Far as mods I was thinking cold air e16g mabey a gm mass. Cams from a 92 and up exhaust 2 3/4 or2 1/2 turbo back. And mabey 550 injectors and that is about it for mods. O the car is a tsi awd. But my driving habits are not good you could say
What I drive is a 95 mazda protege 5 speed with a 1.5t and that t doesn't stand for turbo lol and it see 5 to 6 k every day and has 262000 on it. So yea I have a led foot. But that could be it is a slow car and probley go away with a car with power lol.
Well I plan on putting in new piston and rings in the dsm do to a valve is in one piston. So does any one know of any pistons that are reasonable priced for the quality. I was looking on e bay but don't trust it lol. But has any one use NPR pistons. Are they any good?

Notes:
-OEM MHI E3 16g or nothing
-If you do 550's you have to do something to tune it; s-afc, dsmlink, or just do the 550/2g mas combo, its worked for thousands of other 1Gs.
-you will be surprised how when you will beat on an underpowered car and take it a bit more easy on a higher-powered car. 1/3 throttle in the dsm is like WOT in your protege so you can get plenty of smiles w/o abusing the car too much (I need to listen to myself on this one)
-its a tish odd that you're talking about keeping it pretty stock but yet we're talking about engine parts? 100% stock block ftw imho, but its getting harder and harder to find an unmolested 6-bolt without 150k miles on it (not that thats aweful, but you know what I mean).


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer (Post 370097)
Skip the GM mas and go with a 2g mas. It'll save you a lot of drivability headaches.

+2, I wasted hundreds and hundreds of dollars on that thing, should have just done a 2G MAS and put the money towards dsmlink or cams (or both).

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19TsiAwd90 (Post 370136)
shane to have it tuned on a chip and he said i will be looking at around 350 awhp

Make sure you listen very carefully to shane...he usually says things like 'should' or 'could be' instead of 'will' or 'absolutely'. Not that he is decieptful, its just that in the car world things can go very wrong, even with a good combo of parts (or you make bad decisions on that good combo).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kranz (Post 370388)
So what is the benefit of using 2g piston ? I know that they will give you a higher compression

Yup that's it, but you have to get them machined to fit on 6-bolt rods. Still, it is a proven combo and if you can get a setup for the right price go with it. Otherwise Weisco HD or JE pistons seem to work very well for a reliable DD.

123abc 01-09-2011 09:16 AM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
I've been daily driving my 91 Talon now for about 6 months. Wouldn't have it any other way. Just keep it simple with the mods, and think about mods that upgrade the over-all driveability of it instead of just power. I beat the shit out of mine daily boosting all the time, bouncing off the rev limiter. It still starts every time, and gets me to where I'm going with a lot of fun.

I have a 14b, evo 9 injectors and fuel pump, fmic, and 3in. GM maf translator running @ 20 psi.

Kranz 01-09-2011 12:57 PM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
I think some where I was looking some one had a set of g2 pistons on g1rods all that it needed is rings. Who makes a good set of rings for stock g2 pistons.

cmspaz 01-09-2011 11:31 PM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kranz (Post 370440)
Who makes a good set of rings for stock g2 pistons.

Mitsubishi

Kranz 05-27-2011 11:58 PM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
Has any one done a evo9 pistons on 6 bolt rods. If so is it better than 2g pistons on 6 bolt rods is it worthwhile to do. I have head that the evo9 pistons are the strongest pistons you can get as OEM from mits. I still plan on keeping it mostly stock. What is your guys in put. O and it is a 6 bolt

bertrenolds5 06-11-2011 09:37 AM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
DD during summer and get a POS 4 wheel drive truck for the winter, you don't wan't some dumb ass cutting you off during the winter and you sliding into them and totalling your ride, rust also sucks. Why wouldn't you wan't to DD a fun/fast car unless you get horrible gas milage because your at 450whp. Get oem replacement kyb shocks, no coil overs and you should be fine. I'm going for 300-350hp for my DD. And these cars, 1g's are now collectors cars so your going to have to replace you front end, brakes, half shafts, wheel bearings, ect. but once you get it all done it's worth it. My 1g fwd now has a new lease on life and it's time to make some power. Most kids, I mean people would do it the other way around and get power mods and make their car 400whp and have ball joints and tie rods that are falling off the car, dangerous in my opinion. I say do it because I'm seeing fewer of these cars driving around nowdays!

blackawdtsi 06-11-2011 10:30 AM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
I used to DD my 1g everywhere. I've only had to call for a tow four times in four years. Early on it was a 20g/scm61 but for the longest (and in the end) a T67.

As long as you're OK with overheating and waiting 10 min while dumping water (or Mountain Dew) on the radiator. Or tightening your oil filter spindle on the side of a road. Or rewiring your fuel pump on the fly. Or rewiring radiator fans to a switch you have to get out and flip EVERY time you turn off & start the car.... You'll be fine haha.

Oh and make sure your TPS is plugged in when the cops come for playing in the sandbox... Cops tend to not like it when you can't drive away.

123abc 06-11-2011 10:42 AM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
That sounds like it was lacking on maintenance. I've never had my car over-heat. Only left me stranded once when I was a newbie. Never broke an axle. Broke 2 clutches but could still drive home.

It's all on you to decide what kind of DSM experience you want...

blackawdtsi 06-11-2011 10:54 AM

Re: DSM for DD?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 123abc (Post 385940)
That sounds like it was lacking on maintenance. I've never had my car over-heat. Only left me stranded once when I was a newbie. Never broke an axle. Broke 2 clutches but could still drive home.

It's all on you to decide what kind of DSM experience you want...

I wasn't and still am not accustomed to changing the radiator every 120k, tightening the oil filter spindle periodically or rewiring anything from factory wiring.

Although my 03 Acura TL amazed me last week. The main engine ground frayed off the connector which was still connected to the trans. And this is on a car I refused to touch. Brought it to the dealer for everything.


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