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4seasons69 11-10-2008 12:48 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
get a fox body mustang there about the only other car that is as cheap to build as a dsm plus I love the way the 88 fastbacks look

crazy_skier 11-10-2008 04:33 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
I say build up a muscle car. you cant beat having fun in a classic with some goold ole v8 power and then you still have the dsm to dd/have power in.

Kevin 1G Drummer 11-10-2008 05:00 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
If I was ever to build a "fun car" it would either be an S-10 with a blown or turboed 383, or a Miata with a 4g63/4.

311evo 11-10-2008 05:13 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
Mirage w/ built 4G63 and a big turbo, I want.

GREASEMONKEY 11-10-2008 06:35 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 311evo (Post 264197)
Mirage w/ built 4G63 and a big turbo, I want.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin_1G_Drummer (Post 264196)
If I was ever to build a "fun car" it would either be an S-10 with a blown or turboed 383, or a Miata with a 4g63/4.

All three of these would be awesome IMO, I had a S-10 with a 350 in it but it wasnt all that fast, My stock talon at that time could beat it.. The 383 would be awesome with a little boost or spray, but traction would defiantly be an issue.:seeya:

As far as the miata goes i've been thinking of doing that as my next project, I think that car and the 4g63 would be way too much fun..

scheides 11-10-2008 07:47 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/E...2JZ_195979.htm

? :D

turbotalon1g 11-10-2008 08:12 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
^nice, i remember the uproar about that over on the GM boards.
I love the 2JZ, sounds exotic to me, i was lucky enough to get a ride in a local mid-high powered one and I creamed from the sound, let alone the car twisting in every gear.
I just don't know know what to do.
Its just an opportune time to get out and not lose my ass like i did last time. But this car got put together from a bare shell, i love it.

Halon 11-10-2008 08:40 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
I've contemplated trying to mod an older Viggen 93. I really like how they look. There aren't nearly the amount of high HP ones running around like there are DSM's. It'd be an interesting change, and kinda fun to try things less common, roads less traveled.

I just don't know if I could go back to FWD though :(

http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-co...untryhouse.jpg
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/st.../51574_4mg.jpg
http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-co...Viggen5th2.jpg

Some people are slapping some bigger turbos on though. ANd as you can see, lots of room for improvement. Maybe if there was a way to swap in AWD.... :)
http://www.nordictuning.com/stcs/viggen-dyno2.jpg

john 11-10-2008 10:50 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
My fun car is now the viper, hands down more fun than the dsm was. It is nice being able to feel a bit of power without the foot all the way to the floor. Sliding around can be a bit of fun also.

We have a mirage in the garage now, 2.3 stroker, full T4 turbo, etc. Not fun enough to get running right now. We haven't driven it in ~1.5 years.

turbotalon1g 11-11-2008 10:24 AM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
^yeah but you see I can beat vipers all day, The torque is amazing on them My friend has an 05 that I get to drive and the gears are so long I like to just keep going but then I am already over 120 in third.
That thing needs some boost.

Constant_Project21 11-11-2008 05:38 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
One car that I have always wanted to build is a early model 240sx, with a jdm s13 silvia front end conversion, a rb30det (hybrid rb26dett), a massive turbo, full suspension, the works. Nothing sexier than the sound of a skyline motor. Full-race makes a awd rb26dett swap for 240's but their prices are ridiculous. Off the 280z idea, rb's fit real nice in those too... :Banane56:

Kevin 1G Drummer 11-11-2008 06:49 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GREASEMONKEY (Post 264215)
All three of these would be awesome IMO, I had a S-10 with a 350 in it but it wasnt all that fast, My stock talon at that time could beat it.. The 383 would be awesome with a little boost or spray, but traction would defiantly be an issue.:seeya:.

Traction would be an issue on the stock suspension. But those things are so easy to put a 4link in, and with slicks you wouldn't have much of a problem.

turbotalon1g 11-11-2008 07:20 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 264232)
I've contemplated trying to mod an older Viggen 93. I really like how they look. There aren't nearly the amount of high HP ones running around like there are DSM's. It'd be an interesting change, and kinda fun to try things less common, roads less traveled.

I just don't know if I could go back to FWD though :(

http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-co...untryhouse.jpg
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/st.../51574_4mg.jpg
http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-co...Viggen5th2.jpg

Some people are slapping some bigger turbos on though. ANd as you can see, lots of room for improvement. Maybe if there was a way to swap in AWD.... :)
http://www.nordictuning.com/stcs/viggen-dyno2.jpg

I seen one of those pull out on radisson and I was like, that thing would be sweet to do.

joem 11-11-2008 08:16 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
I love my Q45a 4.5 dohc 310/330? stock in a heavy but no sway car. I also love the full active supenstion in it. Rear drive lsd 4 wheel disk some earlier ones had 4ws.
Joe

Goat Blower 11-11-2008 10:53 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
Find an AWD Volvo S60, turbo from the factory, and luxurious to boot. Fairly easy to mod and relatively cheap for the quality.

I've driven just about every kind of car and keep thinking about this myself. Mustang interiors are just junk no matter what year it is including the new Shelby/Roush/Saleens. Corvettes can be fun but they too have that same crappy cheapass feel that the Mustangs have, just with better ergonomics. Besides that, without some serious mods, Vettes and Stangs are horribly slow. Vipers are a lot of fun, but are almost impossible to get comfortable in and sound like crap.

For me personally, I want pretty much what I learned to drive in, a 1973 Corvette. We had a 1974 when I was younger, but the 1973 looks way better. Of course I'd mod it up suspension and drivetrain-wise while keeping it completely stock looking. Green with black interior, big block and a four-speed. It wouldn't be terribly fast, but a nice classic to cruise around in. I also want to do up my high school car, a late 70's Chevy Monza Spyder. This I would do up pro-touring style with a 5-lug conversion, 4-wheel disc brakes, and a nice warmed up LSx with FI and probably a couple of turbos. Projects, projects.

Shane@DBPerformance 11-11-2008 10:56 PM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
Twin turbo SC400

JET 11-12-2008 10:31 AM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
I have a '01 M Roadster (315 hp from the M3 in a Z3 chassis) and it is a lot of fun, but nothing like the Talon. The car is super smooth and has long gears, but you don't get the rush of the talon. I have been through what you are going through many times and I just can't see getting rid of AWD. I have ridden in high HP RWD cars and they just go up in smoke, or they put a 4 link in the back and they handle like shit. Keep the talon and put a 50 trim in it, if you need a rebuild in the future go to a 2.4 so you can spool a bigger turbo quicker. An EVO is the only replacement I can see for my talon. I have been looking at building a '67 Chevelle with a tube chassis and 4wd system out of a chevy truck with a TT LS2 up front :D That would be WAY down the road though, unless I hit the lottery!

turbotalon1g 11-12-2008 10:38 AM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
^I have been thinking about the same thing as you, but not as far.

V8 AWD Turbo would do it for me in something kinda pretty.

Shane@DBPerformance 11-12-2008 10:51 AM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
We have a customer with a Merkur converted to AWD with a 351ci V8 single turbo. The car is clean, but not the prettiest body style nowdays.

Speedfreak 11-12-2008 11:35 AM

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 
DSM/EVO is tough to beat HP/$ wise. Otherwise I like Shanes TT SC400 thought. You can make those motors pretty damn strong for relatively cheap(if you even need/want to build it). Otherwise I still have that RX7/LSX option for 12k relatively local for sale. Personally if doing something different, I'd probably do the SC400.


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