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Shane@DBPerformance 01-23-2004 08:21 PM

There definately was some buildup on the pistons just from looking through the spark plug holes with a flashlight.

rhino 01-23-2004 09:02 PM

carbon buildup on the piston top leading to higher compression which the rings can't hold and there's excessive blowby.

what do the plugs look like and are they the correct heat range?

Goat Blower 01-23-2004 09:51 PM

Hit it with some MCCC.

rhino 01-23-2004 10:38 PM

mccc works great.....but that might only be a temporary solution

was this a problem before the mods?

what kind of mileage on the stock internals?

SlowWhite 01-24-2004 11:58 AM

Stock Bottom end (replaced at 71K miles ) now at around 112K. 99 Style Head installed recently now has around 28K miles on it.


I never had a logger before. And the last time I hit the dyno to do some tuning was back in 2001. (alot's changed since then, back then my motor only had 20Kish miles)


-brian

Kracka 01-24-2004 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SlowWhite@Jan 23 2004, 08:55 AM
Tried 2 different compression Testers: (8-15 turns of the motor)
1st one)
-192 across all 4

2nd one)
-189-192 across all 4

8-15 turns is a pretty big difference. Whenver I have done them I usually go about 5-6.

CVD 01-25-2004 12:16 AM

Yeah. Over the course of 15 revolutions I would think that some fuel would probably start to build up in the cylinder. I would try 4-6 cranks and/or hold the gas pedal on the floor when you turn the motor over.

Kracka 01-25-2004 01:00 AM

Have you been pulling the MPI fuse when doing the compression tests?

A//// Guy 01-25-2004 01:32 AM

That would prolly be a smart idea.

Enes 01-25-2004 11:03 AM

when i did my test, i pulled the fuse and full throtle, only cranked 4 times and i was getting in the 160 range..

All of the instructions i read anywhere said only 4 cranks.. and you will now that by looking at the Compression tester, the gauge will jump each time.. 4 jumps and you are done. read, write, done.
-E

Iceman 01-25-2004 11:12 AM

On a 2g pulling each injecter harness and the *triangle* harness for the coil pack. The coil pack harness is like right next to the intake manafoild on the right side. I have been up all night so some of this might not make sense.

Shane@DBPerformance 01-25-2004 01:18 PM

We did 15 once to see if it would stabilize, we usually did it about 7 cranks with MPI fuse pulled, coil pack unplugged, and throttle open.

1ViciousGSX 01-25-2004 02:58 PM

I found my compression readings that I took when I first got my car so I would have a base line to check against if I thought anything might go wrong.

HKS 264/264
Stock cam gears
Warm engine
Fuel injectors unplugged
Coils unplugged
WOT
5 compressions

1) 180
2) 180
3) 180
4) 185

I don't know why #4 was slightly higher, but it was.

1ViciousGSX 01-25-2004 03:07 PM

Has anyone checked the cam timing? Having them set to reduce overlap will increase compression. Advancing the intake cam will also increase compression.

Shane@DBPerformance 01-25-2004 11:00 PM

His car also runs hot ALL the time. It is stable though, just too hot. I know that is hurting the power a bit. I wonder if there is something wrong with that head like a clogged cooling passage. Is this the same head that was on Nash's 2G that always wanted to run too hot?

Nash 01-26-2004 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ecoli@Jan 25 2004, 11:00 PM
His car also runs hot ALL the time. It is stable though, just too hot. I know that is hurting the power a bit. I wonder if there is something wrong with that head like a clogged cooling passage. Is this the same head that was on Nash's 2G that always wanted to run too hot?
Nope that wasn't the head on my 2G when it ran hot. I had the 1G head on it, but I just put a 180 thermostat in it and it helped keep it cooler.

SlowWhite 01-26-2004 08:14 AM

I've been running the stock Thermostat. Which I thought was 180.

I've been battleing this temp issue eversince I swapped the parts to the GSX.

when the motor was in my GS-T I could be cruising at 140mph. And the temp would never move.


However in the GSX if I can barely cruise at 70mph for a prolonged period of time and you can watch the temps climb to around the 223 range.


It's like the car is working way to hard or something?

Kracka 01-26-2004 08:23 AM

Sounds like it is probably your GSX's radiator then.

1ViciousGSX 01-26-2004 08:28 AM

Stock 2G thermostats are 180 deg

SlowWhite 01-26-2004 09:58 AM

I swapped the radiator out of my GS-T.

But regardless. if the temps don't stop fluctuating during the first month of spring. (ie: test it out again for 1 month) A fluidyne with new Fans will be order.

Any recommendations on Fan?

This set up will eventually need to fit around the FP3065 Set up. (shooting for Sept/Oct 2004)

-brian


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