Oh nice you edited to you post to include this. The answer is "a whole bunch of 14's at 109" or something like that. To be perfectly honest though, I really don't much care for 1/4 racing my car, doubt I ever even will again to tell you the truth. I am not going to lie...FWD sucks ass for 1/4 mile racing and I will be the first to admit that. If I really wanted a 1/4 beast I would buy an AWD car. I am more interested in a fast street car that handles like its on rails. If you ever wanna run 'em from a roll, or in the twisties, let me know so I can get to the ATM first.

OK, if you plan on racing at RF or having this car for 1/4 use at all, go AWD. As Chris said, buy a car you want and you will be happy no matter what. It is not easy to run a FWD out of the hole with out spinning the wheels or pussying it off the line. Hell, from what I have heard, JET has problems getting out of the hole with traction in his 1g AWD.

I'll let ya know when I am ready Chris.

What John said it correct...if all you care about it blistering 1/4 mile times get an AWD. I know I am on the losing side of this battle, but I still love me some good ol' fashioned FWD.

Excellent, I'll be waiting :banana:

http://www.unix-networking.com/Vicious/smiley_383.gif Settle down children before I have to use the gavel on that ass. http://www.unix-networking.com/Vicious/smiles_69.gif

I'll take you on in the twisties Chris.....That dirt twisties that is!!!!!!

Don't forget that if he wants to get into rallycross type driving (autocrossing on dirt) an AWD is far superior to a FWD unless you are a very experienced rally driver (i.e. like Mark Utecht and others).

Look at the original topic and you will know what he plans to use the car for... Doesn't say anything about rallying.

Just giving him another option if he were to purchase an AWD. Alot of people are unaware of how much fun it is to slide sideways in the dirt, legally. And win trophies for doing it.

I understand he wants to run 1/4 mile. I did when i first got my AWD but I haven't been to a 1/4 track for 2 years now and couldn't be happier. I find much more excitement drifting sideways in the dirt.

Disclaimer---No disrespect for those that run 1/4 mile. I have nothin but respect for those that actually make real power and fast passes.

Sorry for OT- I would love to rally but I do not have the funds or time to support such a hobby. I cannot risk totalling my car by trying to take a turn a little too quick and gain the extra .1 second. I do not have the time to drive hours at a time to compete in an event. I think we all can agree it is fun but not for all of us...

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J/K

You got that right!!!! It's good someone finally notices!! :slap:

There is a big difference between ProRally and Rallycross.

ProRally----Professional drivers going thru the woods at breakneck speeds.

Rallycross--Amatuer drivers going around cones in a dirt parking lot at less than 40mph. No danger of hitting trees or other drivers. Good way to learn car control in a controlled environment.

Plus the events aren't more than 1 and 1/2 hour away from the twin cities.

If you aren't too sure about a rallycross just go to an event. There's almost always a couple people from here that go, and watching one is pretty fun, seeing everything from your daily driven grocery getter to fully prepared rally cars. Seeing one in person is really the only way to find out if it's something you'd be interested in.

I'll vouch for Chris. I love my FWD. More fun than a AWD could be I think. You guys can get off the line quicker true, but lets have a burnout contest or something like that. You gain and lose with both cars. Personally, it's a choice of your lifestyle or what you plan on doing with it. If you want a 1/4mile monster, go AWD. That's a gimme. But just like Chris, I didn't buy my GST for 1/4mile. I wanted to fuck off with it.

The guy I sold my laser to is already converting to AWD. FWD is fun for a couple of weeks, but after that it gets annoying. I know there is personal preference here. An LSD would have helped out tons, but it is still too easy to light the fronts up. FWD is for show and top end. Nice smokey burnouts and less drivetrain loss. I will take AWD and just make more power to make up for the drivetrain loss.

wow im surprised i didn't see this post before. anyways, FWD blows goats. I tried to make excuses to love my FWD, like OHHHH ITS GOOD FROM A ROLL, and stuff like that, but once i started making real power, i realised i was a moron. I had a nice little chunck of change put into that car, but the FWD made me sell it and go AWD. I hated getting up next to a Trans-Am, and having to play catch up the whole time because he roasted me on the launch. I would eventually catch and pass him, but of course he'd say that he let off the gas or sumthing. Here's what my 2g looked like. All that sweat and money i put into that car, and i regret it all. Shoulda just boughten an AWD to begin with. I'm much happier with my half ass workin awd 1g. It may not be much right now, but one day it will be!!! and i will not have to figure out the perfect way to launch it without spinning tires!!!
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Even AWD's can have traction problems! You have to learn how to launch an AWD too. All that traction makes it easier to bog. It is definately a good problem to have though.

dealing with our cars, id much rather have to deal with too much traction(awd) vs. not enough(fwd)!!!

A good driver can make either car fast in a race, it's just easier in an AWD. Chris' car was fast when it was bone-stock. FWD can be a monster from the roll.