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With all the options for DSM cams I would not look into regrinds unless you are on a tight budget or somthing. But where the market for cams is smaller they seem like a good option. The FP and Crower cams are a good price for what you get. I will end up running some cams from Crane cams that cost ~$750 or so.

~John

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I never said that the HKS cams aren't good, were done by accident, or were defending the DKS cams. I've never even seen a "DKS" cam. I was defending the idea's and misconceptions about regrinds and small companies doing QUALITY research and development.
HKS cams are cheap compared to what new grinds for my car would cost (small market, $1800 for blank cams, no profiles!). Regrinds are a great choice for small/undeveloped market, because the research and development can go along ways before you start making lobe changes, etc (aka FP's cams).
I'd just go with a proven cam company if it were me. There are enough offerings out there to not even have to think about regrinds.
Heck, you can buy hks cams used for $300-400 if you dig around enough.

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Haha, yeah so he thinks. I consider a "knock off" a poor quality replica make w/ cheaper sources/materials, which is in no way what we're doing. We're still using Garrett cores. Some days it just doesn't seem worth even offering a quality product anymore. Nobody cares anymore about whats good, better, best, or even worse anymore, all they care about is how "cheap" the price is.

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Not to be off topic, but it sounds like there should be testing done, High quality product Vs. Ebay knock off. Ither flow bench numbers, dyno numbers, IAT differences, etc. Back on topic regrid cams have a time and a place as said befor, I do not think DSM's need them.

~John

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Now that I've been educated...

I'm never buying regrinds. Like mom always said, if it looks like shit, smells like shit and feels like shit, it must be...

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Are you saying you will be changing your rocker ratio by shimming it?

I think you're actually talking about shimming the HLA because you have a small base circle cam and you want to maintain the stock lifter preload.

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Great cause I wasn't really talking in reference to your post. Just stating my opinion on the topic at hand. Now remove under garment from bottom and proceed.:p

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I think he is saying the cam will change the lift, not the shimming of the HLA.

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Alright :).

No I will not be changing my rocker ratio by shimming it. I was saying that I need to shim them HLA so I maintain the same amount of contact with the cam follower, or as you said, keep the stock HLA preload.
I was just stating that cam regrinds don't change the rocker ratio. I've seen that brought up before (it'll throw off my rocker ratio, change the angle), which if the HLA is shimmed properly, it will not. Just trying to squash a theory.
I agree, sometimes the R&D is difficult to justify when some knock-off company can offer some piece of shit product for 1/4 the price. Thats why you need testing and concrete numbers for everything in this day and age.

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there is no way in hell that I would trust shims for my cams!!

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Your not actually shimming the cam. Hell, How in the FUCK would you actually shim a cam?
I can draw you a picture if you want.
http://www.lse-performance.com/galle..._for_newbs.jpg
Sorry not nearly as fast in paint as I use to be.

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Better be careful Swanny, he works at a "a huge speed shop in Johnson City, TN." :eek:

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Oh thats right :eek: :cool:

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sorry...lol....was wondering how u would shim it! I still would prefer not to do it that way!


wow...just made an ass of myself....but I still work at a huge shop..lol...




oh yea...luv the paint skills!

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Naw, Im just being an ass and messing around.

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its all good man...

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Do all your cam lobes look like an egg or is that the EGGcentric lobe?

Ha! I'm fucking hilarious.

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LMAO!
Naw mad flatness for VTEC, its actually 1" of lift ;).

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My 2cents the cam’s are a O.K. cheaper alternative. They are regrinds not hard welded and have a one year warranty. FFWD have been serving the DSM community for a long time and do good work IMOP.

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I got a regrind cam for my 240, it was cheap and works great, no problems with it at all. Have been looking into them for my Galant but havent decided yet.