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turbotalon1g 12-09-2010 09:26 PM

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Good luck.

mlomker 12-09-2010 09:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 368172)
Lomker, remember when your car wouldn't't start on that angle/grade?

The Bosch 044 that I had installed was over-running the stock fpr and causing it to flood out. Not sure why that was more of an issue at an angle than when level. I had a lot of fuel and a surge tank so it wasn't a pickup issue.

Your symptoms do remind me of when DoughtCom was running without an fpr.

scheides 12-09-2010 09:50 PM

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I poured in a gallon of old gas I had for the lawn mower (bp93 of course!) and it fired up!! I was pumped! I started to put things back together and i noticed the MAF was unplugged. Surely I had checked that before? Hrmmm. Got it all back together, fired up, died. WTF! Go and unplug the Maf, fires up and purrs like a kitten!

Murlo, can I borrow your Maf sensor? :)

turbotalon1g 12-09-2010 09:53 PM

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lol out of gas. Glad you are getting it figured out. wootski!!!!!!!!!

Kracka 12-09-2010 10:07 PM

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Glad it's running!

t-revzr 12-09-2010 10:19 PM

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Congrats Scheides! Im glad you got it started up!

goodhart 12-09-2010 10:29 PM

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That's weird that the MAF sensor would just crap out like that. Did it get jarred just right when it was removed or something? Glad to hear its running!

Rmondoh 12-09-2010 11:35 PM

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That's great news Scheides! Glad it's up and running!

awd-drifter 12-09-2010 11:51 PM

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NIIIIIIICE

scheides 12-10-2010 12:08 AM

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God what a joke, I SWEAR I tried to start the car w/o the maf but I'm guessing I tried unplugging the cam sensors instead. I'll try and get murlo's maf tomorrow and swap it in for mine. Hopeufully that is it, maybe I can spray mine down with some maf cleaner or something. I don't know how it would have gotten damaged sitting on my workbench, in the middle of the the intake tube it hardly could have gotten dirty! It reads like 1.2V in evoscan when idling and 1.8v when I rev it so it *is* reading something. Just weird.

Spent the rest of the night bolting the hood back on, oil change, torquing crank pulley, and getting the snow tires down from the attic. I wanna drive the thing so bad but work again just owns me. Fingers crossed on this job I interviewed for yesterday!

Wheels are sitting next to the car, I'll bolt them on and take it out for a spin tomorrow as soon as I get home from work, hopefully before the snow comes!

Thanks again for all the help everyone, couldn't have done it w/o you!

I have a vid of the startup, I'll post it soon.

cmspaz 12-10-2010 01:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 368181)
Your symptoms do remind me of when DoughtCom was running without an fpr.

Actually, they're the exact opposite. His car ran fine until you touched the throttle, and then it would try to die.

Anyway, great to see that (almost) everything's working.

rose0529 12-10-2010 07:40 AM

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Nice work! Glad you got it up and running! The itch for you to leave work today is going to be hard to resist i bet!

mlomker 12-10-2010 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 368211)
Actually, they're the exact opposite.

It was fueling. Exact opposite would be air or something. Nice try, though.

Murlo26 12-10-2010 09:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 368201)
God what a joke, I SWEAR I tried to start the car w/o the maf but I'm guessing I tried unplugging the cam sensors instead. I'll try and get murlo's maf tomorrow and swap it in for mine. Hopeufully that is it, maybe I can spray mine down with some maf cleaner or something. I don't know how it would have gotten damaged sitting on my workbench, in the middle of the the intake tube it hardly could have gotten dirty! It reads like 1.2V in evoscan when idling and 1.8v when I rev it so it *is* reading something. Just weird.

Spent the rest of the night bolting the hood back on, oil change, torquing crank pulley, and getting the snow tires down from the attic. I wanna drive the thing so bad but work again just owns me. Fingers crossed on this job I interviewed for yesterday!

Wheels are sitting next to the car, I'll bolt them on and take it out for a spin tomorrow as soon as I get home from work, hopefully before the snow comes!

Thanks again for all the help everyone, couldn't have done it w/o you!

I have a vid of the startup, I'll post it soon.

I pulled my MAF out last night so I can stop by tonight if you want. I will probably get home around 6pm or so and can stop by quick and drop it off. Just text me later or something.

Would've stopped by last night but a friend stopped over after work for a few and then I had to play some black ops :)

scheides 12-10-2010 10:40 AM

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Badass man! Yea anytime you can swing over would be awesome. I'm going to try and duck out of work around by 4pm and get home to finish things up before the snow flies!

Left to do:
Top off oil
check coolant
mount stock rims w/ snow tires
mount strut-tower bar
Swap in Murlo's MAF (also I bought some maf cleaner for mine)
check exhaust hangers in back (tips look low or something?)
figure out last exhaust manifold/turbo bolt (couldn't get one in, gave up)
boost leak test

Later:
Change oil in GLI, been putting that off :)
Order new MAF?
OEM spark plugs
Return borrowed parts to murlo, lomker, MAP.

Murlo26 12-10-2010 10:53 AM

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If you need OEM spark plugs too, I might be able to bring mine over as well...I can ask my buddy who is coming over tonight (mechanic) to bring tools to pull the plugs, let me know.

A//// Guy 12-10-2010 11:03 AM

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Woooo! Getter done!

goodhart 12-10-2010 11:08 AM

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Busy night ya got there! Good luck.

What are your plans for engine break-in?

Kevin 1G Drummer 12-10-2010 11:42 AM

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I'm glad to hear you're getting it figured out! Hopefully the Maf fixes your problem.

scheides 12-10-2010 12:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 368249)
If you need OEM spark plugs too, I might be able to bring mine over as well...I can ask my buddy who is coming over tonight (mechanic) to bring tools to pull the plugs, let me know.

Thats ok, once I figure out if I need a new maf sensor I'll order it along with new plugs from the dealership.

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 368252)
Busy night ya got there! Good luck.

What are your plans for engine break-in?

Drive the fukin thing! Carefully, check for leaks, do vacuum pulls, etc. The car is prolly 90% tuned b/c I haven't changed much with the fueling or intake system; only real differences tune-wise are the ported head, bigger valves, and bigger cams. The existing tune should be fine for break-in, but I'll prolly pull timing a bit and add a tish of fuel to be safe.

500 miles on o'reily 10w30 mixed with walmart supertech 10w30 conventional. Oil change at 500, prolly stick with the leftover supertech or maybe rotella triple protection, maybe a 5w40 if I can find it. Then at 1500 miles I'll change to a synthetic and get tuned.

goodhart 12-10-2010 12:21 PM

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Nice. How much do you expect to gain from those cams and headwork then? Maybe 25-30whp? I'm excited about this thing man, it's a shame it seems any X's that make decent power need a built motor though. :(

Murlo26 12-10-2010 12:23 PM

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There are a lot of higher powered X's still on stock blocks with t3 kits...its the guys like us that try for big power on stock frame turbo's that have problems. Lag and less torque seem to be they key to a high powered X.

scheides 12-10-2010 12:26 PM

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IDK if this will work just yet but should soon:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgiFLefQUlc&hd=1

awd-drifter 12-10-2010 01:45 PM

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Shit's diesel! lol. Sounds nice man. Hopefully all goes well after the MAS fix.

cmspaz 12-10-2010 05:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 368265)
rotella triple protection, maybe a 5w40 if I can find it. Then at 1500 miles I'll change to a synthetic and get tuned.

The Rotella 5w40 is synthetic only. 15w40 and 10w30 are their conventional offerings. I happen to know where you can find them.

adam at MAP 12-10-2010 06:35 PM

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FAill...

edit: figured it out.

You should just look at it Schiedes. Just look at it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF8GhC-T_Mo&hd=1

turbotalon1g 12-10-2010 07:26 PM

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^lol.

GsXtUrBo98 12-10-2010 07:48 PM

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That does sound like a diesel.. Congrats on the car running!!! I should suck it up and just get mine running too... Even though mines not my daily.

scheides 12-10-2010 09:54 PM

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Tonight I got the car back on the road. It sounded like a diesel for about the first four miles. I did some 2nd and 3rd gear vacuum pulls to seat the rings immediately. Parked it, troubleshooted the maf sensor some more, and murlo came over with his MAF. Swapped it in, and it did the *exact* same thing. So not sure what the deal is, BOO!

BUT, the car idles, revs, and drives about 90% fine with the maf unplugged! Its pretty amazing really, there is a slight hesitation around 2500rpm but nothing aweful, I'm sure the map scaling tables need some tweaking.

We drove all over, put another 11 miles on it. Drove to roseys, some freeway time, and side streets, plenty of vacuum pulls the whole way. When we got back to my place, I kept thinking, 'man, it SOUNDS so much better! I thought it was a big exhaust leak but it is breaking in I guess as the engine sounds perfect now.

Anna and I are off to SuperTarget to stock up before the storm :)

Thanks for the help Murlo!

mdost03 12-10-2010 10:11 PM

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Congrats on getting it back on the road scheides!

311evo 12-10-2010 10:17 PM

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Now give it a rip. :)

notsostockgalant 12-10-2010 10:19 PM

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I was just thinkin about this on my way home after reading it earlier today, did the maf sensor wiring get pinched at all while setting the motor back in? just a random thought.

scheides 12-10-2010 11:50 PM

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After talking with Shawn (simulatedwood) I am convinced this is a grounding problem. The ecu is seeing voltage from the maf sensor, just not sure it is the correct voltage. I'm going to double-check more tomorrow, and possibly pull the exhaust manifold off the head to try and get the turbo properly bolted to it.

Did a boost leak test, holds 5psi like a champ! Good enough for now.

Took anna for a drive to Target for pre-snow shopping, did more vacuum pulls along the way, she drives so nice! God I missed this car!

Speedfreak 12-11-2010 01:28 PM

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SuperTarget off Central/694 correct? I was coming online to ask if you/your car was there last night. Figured it was a good sign the car was out and about.

scheides 12-11-2010 01:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedfreak (Post 368392)
SuperTarget off Central/694 correct? I was coming online to ask if you/your car was there last night. Figured it was a good sign the car was out and about.

Wahoo evoX spotted in public! Ya dude that was Anna and I, stocking up before the storm and taking the car on its first drive 'away' from the house, other just kinda was making bigger and bigger circles before that.

I ordered spark plugs and that little trans hole cover from Brookdale today. No idea where that thing went but no way in hell am I driving through the snow without it.

scheides 12-11-2010 03:55 PM

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Wahoo! Figured it out!!! I had put one thick, main ground just above the starter, when in fact it went below the starter. It was on the block, but the spot I put it on above the starter also held a small bracket (to hold the harness off the starter), and I had put the grounding wire on the outside of that--it must not conduct very well. I moved the ground to the correct spot (the manual actually has diagrammed where each one is), fired it up w/o maf to confirm it was working, then shut it off, plugged in maf, fired it up, voila!

Put my original rom back on there and she idles pretty nice right around 900rpm. I was super excited! Didn't spend the time to futz with it any more tonight, I'll play with it this week after the snow goes away.

My back is just wrecked from all the shoveling so that turbo bolt will stay off for now.

311evo 12-11-2010 04:08 PM

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Nice!

Grounds can do so much more than anyone expects, it's crazy.

Halon 12-11-2010 10:44 PM

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Awesome!!

scheides 12-12-2010 11:23 PM

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I attempted bolt #4 on the manifold-turbo with no luck, all but pulled the manifold off the car. I gave up, bolted it back down, it'll drive fine for a while longer. After shoveling for hours and hours and everything else I've done with the car, I'm just ready to drive the thing. Just going to continue to tweak and put some miles on it :D

http://i.imgur.com/Lhe9Pl.jpg

FattyBoomBatty 12-12-2010 11:40 PM

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The first 20 miles of driving need to be burnout miles. No joke, it's the only way to break in engines properly.


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