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Lol, no shots in the face for me. :P I'll leave that to the wemans.

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During break-in it was being changed every 4-5 days. Going forward it'll only need to be changed monthly, at most. That'll be worth the trip to Dad's house. If I had a driveway then I'd do it but I live downtown and the meter reader would have fun with that one.

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Any word on if it will be ready for you on Monday?

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I should send Shane a masseuse. Nothing but crap and too much work.

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Dude, we've told you countless times now that if you need to change your oil, JUST ASK! Plenty of us have driveways and garages with all the tools you'd need.

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I will, just wanted to get to know some of you better before I did. In this case it isn't relevant because if I'd known I could have had Valvoline fix it on the spot.

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Will it be back on the dyno for more tuning today?

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Shane said he'd try to give me a mild tune that'd be safe for Monday. He is heading up to BIR for NASA so he has a hard time constraint. That's a long-winded way of saying: dunno.

The worst that could happen is I drink a lot more beer on Sunday night (if I'm not driving on Monday). I have a room in Baxter and I'm going to use it. :D

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When is the event you're attending? Gotta get those brake lines on...monday? Tuesday?

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I wasn't expecting to get it done before BIR. Car is still at DB, working an all-nighter on Sat/Sun, then heading up to BIR Sunday evening. Track day is Monday. It's crazy season.

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OIC! Ok, then LMK when you wanna do it, I'm game for whenever. I owe you.

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I picked up the car tonight. Shane put a tame tune on it...26psi and I think he said 15 degrees of timing? It makes decent power but it will need some polishing next week.

These ID2000 injectors start like a motherfucker when cold and the car barely runs for the first few minutes. On paper the spool is terrible, up around 4300. It doesn't feel bad driving it, though. Maybe the whole spool thing is over-rated.

The ECU is also acting a little weird. The driver's power window is no longer one-touch and the alarm system won't arm. I'm not sure if a fob is lost in the passenger compartment or if the computer just thinks one is there. We practically disassembled the interior looking for it, without luck. I'll be dropping the car back off at DB on Tuesday and we'll see what we can figure on that and polishing the tune.

Shane said the turbo is blowing some smoke on WOT pulls so there's definitely a chance that it'll have to come back out to be repaired. Who said ignorance was inexpensive? Considering what I've been through so far, that seems like a minor issue.

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those are still some pretty nice numbers for low boost, low timing, and possibly blown turbo!

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Yeah man! Problems suck, but once it's worked out and it makes good power, you forget about all that money spent. I did. Anyway, could the late spool be caused by a maladjusted boost controller? I know mine had the gain turned all the way up and was causing a crazy hysterisis where the waste gate would open a couple times at spool up, then close, make boost and work normally. Check that maybe?

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For the window it happens a lot on cars usually if you hold the switch going down all the way and hold it once it bottoms out then bring it all the way back up and hold it, it will reset the auto function and work again.

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What turbo do you have again? the red?

Nice numbers so far, Craig is right on the windows.

As far as the security system check fuses, or somehow reactivate it.

You might be able to get these both warranted from Brookdale too, just sayin.

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It's weird because it goes down a couple inches every time that I press the switch. It goes up the whole way, like normal. I'll fiddle with it a bit.

This is the BBK Full for the X. They call it the BBX.

It's not a power issue...it just thinks a key fob is inside the car. DB couldn't find the key that I'd left them so at this point we don't know if that's true or not. We looked for it pretty thoroughly. The X's with SSS don't use an ignition key--it just detects a fob inside the car.

These injectors are really rough and I threw a CEL this morning. The car is making me nervous right now.

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Awesome power man, enjoy it.

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Ended up being the random misfire code. The local dealers don't have new plugs in stock so I'm going to reinstall a set of HKS M40XL's that I already have. I had pulled those out quite a while ago since Shane didn't recommend one-step colder plugs with E85.

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Didn't get a VMail, but I assume that's you that called...I'll have your cable back in the cities tomorrow evening, I can bring it over to ya if you like!

410whp at only 26psi and 15 degrees of timing? That is a damn conservative tune for your setup, but it should get you used to the power before the big numbers. 400whp is plenty of fun for the street, enjoy it!

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I'll be gone for Baxter by then but it's cool...I went to O'Reillys and pulled the code with their loaner. Shane warned me about the plugs before I left DB and sure enough, it's not happy. If the M40XL's don't make it behave then I'll try swapping the stock coils on (some people say that the Okadas are actually worse than stock on the X).

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Ok man, I'm heading down from Fergus Falls, so if you wanna meet up, I have it in the car with me. Shane will have his so I imagine it'll be NBD. I was hoping to have a box from tactrix in the mail weds, then thurs, then friday (USPS is kinda botching this one) with ODB2 extenders and SD cards for laptop-less logging, but no luck :( We'll get that going over the next week or two and you'll be able to do full logs while on track w/o any interuption/hassle :)

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I'd imagine he's coming back on Sunday night. He might see me driving in the other direction. :)

They keep the track well utilized over the Summer--there's often a few events running at the same time.

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The misfiring on my car is not a good thing but it runs well once it's hot.

I did a WOT pull from 2-3 on the way to work last night and I was like :drive1:

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So it looks like Shane didn't rev it out much yet? Waiting for the retune for that?

You going to use all 9k rpm's of the tach or what?

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Good luck tomorrow

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I was up a Brainerd a little bit on Saturday to see the NASA race and ran into shane there. Never seen a real race before. It is making me a little more motivated to work on my track car project.

Good luck up there!

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My brother and I met up with scheides & Anna in St Cloud. He helped me to bump the idle up by 100rpm and that made the car much easier to deal with. It's still misfiring now and then but at least it stays running. I did a 1-2-3 pull in a deserted business district and it is beastly enough for me.

I had asked him to go 8k on the regular tune and I've run it up there a handful of times. The BBX is still making power so we'll go 9k on the "tune for numbers" next week.

So far there is no evidence of the car burning oil. Unless that changes I suspect that the turbo is fine.

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Sweetness. Sadly though, you get used to the power after a bit. Lucky for you it just keeps going back for more, haha.

If idle is bad, keep going up till it gets better. Some rx7's idle at 2000rpm. :D

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So you had the car at BIR today right? How was it?

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I did go up to BIR but I only got 8 laps in. It got to the point where it was misfiring even at high rpm and I just wasn't interested in abusing the motor.

I believe it! For the sake of expediency, I requested that Shane polish up my current tune and leave the power level where it is at for now. I dropped it back off at DB on the way home.

The good news is that the car feels awesome. The suspension setup is confidence-inspiring on the track and the tires didn't even squawk at the pace I was running (admittedly slow). It's something that I can grow into for the rest of the Summer...can turn up the wick later.

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^That sounds like a good plan.

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Sorry about the misfires man :( Did you try swapping in the stock coils?

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Stock coils and a set of HKS one-step colder plugs. I called around and none of the local Mitsu dealers had a set of new stock plugs in stock on Saturday.

The car never misfired when I was on the DW1000 injectors and the old tune. The misfires occur around 3k rpm so it shouldn't even be boost-related. You let off the gas approaching a turn and then go part-throttle to accelerate through it and pop.

I'm hoping Shane can iron the issues out with a few more hours on the dyno. If not then different injectors are going in. We're watering a plant with a fire hose. DW needs to release the 1300's that they have in beta testing. They'd be ideal.

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You can't just go to Napa or O'Rielly's for spark plugs?

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IX's and X's use specialty Iridium plugs that can be tough to find locally (X's especially). They're expensive, but they also last a long time (I swapped out my stock plugs at 46k miles and they still had plenty of life left in them).

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You could talk to Chris at MAP and see if he could get you those DW1200's that I was going to test for them.

Since I won't need them I am sure they are still looking for someone to test them, plus you would get them for a smoking deal ;)

For your levels the dw1000's should be fine anyway, I ran mine up to 420whp on Shanes dyno, probably 430whp with normal size tires/rims and still had a bit left.

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If nothing else, at the power level you are at you could toss the 1000's back in for a while and just have shane tune you on them. Then you have a good solid car, and can swap in bigger injectors when you know there is a product that will work for you. Misfires are bad bad bad at this power level.

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That's a definite possibility since I know they run perfectly. I have them at home instead of DB but I think I'll just give Shane a crack at getting the ID's to work.

Yeah but I like to plan for the future and not satisfice. The math gets tough not matter how you go about it...selling old injectors, buying new injectors, paying Shane by the hour, etc.

I talked to a guy with the new DW1500's and his symptoms are identical to mine (as far as warm starting, etc). The misfiring needs to be fixed but hard to say what others issues might remain. The DW1300's should be the perfect size if they tune like the 1000's...getting a set is definitely on the option list.

Plugs on the X are stupid. $18/ea for stockers ($22+ for aftermarket). I don't think it's the problem anyway but it was Shane's suggestion to try new plugs.

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Yea misfires are the suck...


I ordered plugs from AMS and got them in like 2-3 days. No dealers stock them, they all have to order them and they are very pricey.