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Murlo26 07-09-2010 10:01 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 348351)
yummy. fresh motor.

Yea feels good to see new life.

Murlo26 07-14-2010 04:10 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
It's official, Manley pistons are way behind!

Shane said that my pistons from Manley are 3+ weeks out! Screw that I say...going with the more expensive AMS spec JE pistons rated over 800whp and AMS has taken them over 1000 before as well, should be more than enough if I ever go 35r.

Shane had said either those or the CP ones would be safe, the CP's weren't coated so AMS it is, plus they are in stock and ready to ship and should be at DB on Friday or Monday at the latest.

scheides 07-14-2010 04:11 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Dang, I really wanted to see how the Manley pistons worked out for ya :( Oh well, move forward!

goodhart 07-14-2010 04:13 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Nice!

Waiting on backorder parts FTL. I am waiting for an intake that FP says should be a week out, we'll see how that goes :rolleyes:

Murlo26 07-14-2010 04:14 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 348963)
Dang, I really wanted to see how the Manley pistons worked out for ya :( Oh well, move forward!

Yea, I was looking forward to be a little different...they seemed to work out great on other Evo builds DB did.

But 3+ weeks, summer could be over by then...I'd happily pay an extra 100-200 for pistons to get something sooner. Shane even said he just wanted to get going on the motor, haha. Not sure if he is wants to see numbers and get it going or just wants it done so i stop bugging them. I try to avoid it but its hard when I have so much shit floating around in my head on what I would like to do. PLus I try to coordinate everything to avoid hang ups, but it is what it is kinda.

Murlo26 07-14-2010 04:15 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 348964)
Nice!

Waiting on backorder parts FTL. I am waiting for an intake that FP says should be a week out, we'll see how that goes :rolleyes:

Oh I am still waiting on FP for my turbo, a very important part, lol.

But the pistons are officially holding everything up right now. They could be putting new rods/pistons in and filing rings checking clearances and installing back in the car if it weren't for the pistons.

turbotalon1g 07-14-2010 04:29 PM

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Well here is to friday, at least with your car you are being held up by parts, not like GH here who could have the intake and still have a car in pieces lol.

SO next weekend it could be alive?

mlomker 07-14-2010 04:32 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 348966)
or just wants it done so i stop bugging them.

Considering how anxious you were about MY car, I could only imagine. lol.

Murlo26 07-14-2010 04:38 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 348972)
Considering how anxious you were about MY car, I could only imagine. lol.

I do it to myself, lol...reading forums every day seeing other people enjoying their car's...it's foolish.

I did pretty good for the first 2 months. I have tried to keep it to one issue a week, like just an update on parts etc...change in parts, w/e.

The motor could be in by next weekend, probably not running..no turbo. The head could be done by Friday, I think it was supposed to be.

However, just because parts are there, doesn't mean DB would drop everything to do my car...nor would I expect them to. So we will see how next week goes.

Kracka 07-14-2010 04:39 PM

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What kind of oil do you guys run? Stick with M1 5W-30 or switch to 10W-30?

mlomker 07-14-2010 04:41 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 348977)
What kind of oil do you guys run? Stick with M1 5W-30 or switch to 10W-30?

Shane recommends 10w30 conventional for break-in. I'm switching to Amsoil 0W30 on the next change.

Shane@DBPerformance 07-14-2010 04:57 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
10w40 on any built motor or any motor making decent power. I would only run 5w30, if recommended by the manufacturer, on a 100% stock car that wasn't modded. Running too thin of oil is one of the biggest motor killers. We run 10w40 mixed with 20w50 on high HP motors. M1 5w30 is the cause of more spun rod bearings than I can count, seen it on 4Gs, 2Jzs, Subarus, Hondas, Mustang motors, SR20s, etc...

Super Bleeder!! 07-14-2010 05:25 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 348979)
Shane recommends 10w30 conventional for break-in. I'm switching to Amsoil 0W30 on the next change.

too thinnnnnnnnnn

turbotalon1g 07-14-2010 05:37 PM

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Dino oil FTW.

mlomker 07-14-2010 05:49 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 348982)
10w40 on any built motor or any motor making decent power

I just checked my receipt and I have been using 10w40 conventional. Didn't know that was the same deal with synthetic, though.

goodhart 07-14-2010 06:07 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 348969)
not like GH here who could have the intake and still have a car in pieces lol.

Hey now! all I am lacking right now is money! lol

Shane@DBPerformance 07-14-2010 06:15 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 348993)
I just checked my receipt and I have been using 10w40 conventional. Didn't know that was the same deal with synthetic, though.

Just goto the Amsoil 10w40.

mlomker 07-14-2010 06:24 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 349004)
Just goto the Amsoil 10w40.

I've sent out some emails...I'll work on getting the case that I bought swapped. Thank God Kracka asked the question because I can't afford that kind of ignorance.

goodhart 07-14-2010 10:06 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 349006)
I've sent out some emails...I'll work on getting the case that I bought swapped. Thank God Kracka asked the question because I can't afford that kind of ignorance.


Kerry (95talonracer on here and EvoMN) is an Amsoil dealer. Help that local economy!!

Kracka 07-15-2010 07:40 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I just switched my engine to Mobil 1 10W-30 last night for the big trip and tune.

Murlo26 07-15-2010 08:29 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I was just using M1 5w-30 (stock stuff)...hopefully that wasn't the cause of the motor failure :(

I will switch to whatever shane recommends...looks like the Amsoil 10w40 after motor break in.

Kracka 07-15-2010 08:34 AM

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You can get Mobil 1 5W-40 or 10W-40 at Walmart for half the price of Amsoil.

IMO, Amsoil is nothing but over-hyped propoganda since it's marketed with a pyramid scheme. It's a good oil, but not THAT good. Great marketing decision on their part though.

Murlo26 07-15-2010 08:35 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 349104)
You can get Mobil 1 5W-40 or 10W-40 at Walmart for half the price of Amsoil.

If Shane says it works as good I will by all means do it...I am not putting my brand new motor at risk though, lol. I have seen comparisons of M1 vs Amsoil and usually Amsoil is way ahead but I am no oil expert.

Kracka 07-15-2010 08:37 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 349105)
I have seen comparisons of M1 vs Amsoil and usually Amsoil is way ahead but I am no oil expert.

Look at who pays for those "independent" lab tests though.

Murlo26 07-15-2010 08:39 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 349106)
Look at who pays for those "independent" lab tests though.

Like I said...I shall do whatever Shane/Danny tell me to do...if they say just use synthetic and this weight...then i will probably just stick with M1...however I forgot to say, I chose not to support Walmart whenever possible, i hate that corporation...

Kracka 07-15-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 349107)
I chose not to support Walmart whenever possible, i hate that corporation...

LOL so does Scheides. I personally love it. It saves me a ton of money and they've done what most other American companies can only dream of. Plus they bring jobs to depressed areas and employ the otherwise unemployable.

Murlo26 07-15-2010 08:49 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 349108)
LOL so does Scheides. I personally love it. It saves me a ton of money and they've done what most other American companies can only dream of. Plus they bring jobs to depressed areas and employ the otherwise unemployable.

I don't hate the store or the employees or the atmosphere...i just hate how they do business...shitting on everyone they can basically to make a small profit.

I don't disagree they run a tight ship, but I go to target whenever possible for that kind of store.

I only go to Walmart typically when I am lazy and one is close or at 3am or something when its all that's open.

scheides 07-15-2010 08:56 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 349102)
I was just using M1 5w-30 (stock stuff)...hopefully that wasn't the cause of the motor failure :(


Sooooo, hate to bring up a tender subject, but that rod that snapped, the end of it was still attached to the crank....did you or DB ever pull it off the crank and see if the bearing was spun at all? Furthermore, pulling the rest of that block apart to try and diagnose what exactly happened?

Murlo26 07-15-2010 09:00 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 349110)
Sooooo, hate to bring up a tender subject, but that rod that snapped, the end of it was still attached to the crank....did you or DB ever pull it off the crank and see if the bearing was spun at all? Furthermore, pulling the rest of that block apart to try and diagnose what exactly happened?

Nope, I have thought about it a lot though...i know way back when you had always said to check that and I have thought about asking them. I bug them a lot though and I am personally not sure how long it takes to check that. I was thinking I would play with the block myself when I got it back.

Is it hard to do? Maybe I can talk Kracka ;) or someone in to helping me if it's easy next Friday, the block is sitting at DB still.

I just know I bug danny and shane way too much already.

But yes, the rod is still connected to the crank, well half the rod.

mlomker 07-15-2010 09:09 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 349102)
looks like the Amsoil 10w40 after motor break in.

Shane only said that because I'd already brought up Amsoil. I'm sure that M1 would be fine. It's not all that much more expensive, though...depends on where you get your M1. The M1 'oil change' jug (4.5 qts?) was like $33 last I checked. Amsoil is about $10 more.

I need to find a better hook-up for the Amsoil is all...buying from their online store is no bargain.

scheides 07-15-2010 09:30 AM

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Honestly it would be cool to pull it apart yourself, I'd even love to help, but IMHO an experienced engine builder would be who you want to do it. They might notice something some of us novices might not :D

I'll be at DB next friday too, maybe we wrangle danny and talk him into helping us take a peak. ;)

Murlo26 07-15-2010 09:35 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 349119)
Honestly it would be cool to pull it apart yourself, I'd even love to help, but IMHO an experienced engine builder would be who you want to do it. They might notice something some of us novices might not :D

I'll be at DB next friday too, maybe we wrangle danny and talk him into helping us take a peak. ;)

Well I could probably take off of work a few hours early next friday, get there around 230 or 3 to take a look. My new motor should be progressing by then hopefully as well.

I'll toss Danny an email about it here later.

simulatedwood 07-15-2010 09:38 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 349115)
Shane only said that because I'd already brought up Amsoil. I'm sure that M1 would be fine. It's not all that much more expensive, though...depends on where you get your M1. The M1 'oil change' jug (4.5 qts?) was like $33 last I checked. Amsoil is about $10 more.

I need to find a better hook-up for the Amsoil is all...buying from their online store is no bargain.

M1 10w-40 is $21.00 @ walmart for a 5 quart jug !

Shane@DBPerformance 07-15-2010 09:44 AM

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I really don't care that much about oil brand. I don't like M1 though. It's overhyped more than Amsoil. Do I ever see problems with Amsoil? No. Do I ever see problems with M1? Yes all the time. Do I see much problems with any brand besides M1? Not really. I usually run Castrol, Napa or Rotella.

scheides 07-15-2010 09:54 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 349121)
Well I could probably take off of work a few hours early next friday, get there around 230 or 3 to take a look. My new motor should be progressing by then hopefully as well.

I'll toss Danny an email about it here later.

Ok, I'll be there around 2 with hughes for his tune. Anna will be along shortly with the pups to scoop me up and we're headed up north for the weekend, so who knows how long I'll stick around for.

FWIW I've run M1 10w30 in all of my DSMs and Evos, no issues yet. Of course, I've never made more than around 400whp, so I assume the 'big power' cars shane is talking about are 500+. I like this oil discussion, maybe we should start a thread about it :D

mlomker 07-15-2010 09:57 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by simulatedwood (Post 349122)
M1 10w-40 is $21.00 @ walmart for a 5 quart jug !

That's the place to get it, then.

Since I already had a $130 case of Amsoil 0w30, I think I'll just mix it 50/50 with 20w50 until it is used up. It averages out to 10w40, right? Somehow I doubt the math is that simple but I guess that's better than using 30.

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 349124)
I like this oil discussion, maybe we should start a thread about it

I've read threads about it on other forums but you never know who you're talking to. Internetz ftl.

Speedfreak 07-15-2010 10:57 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
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Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 349123)
I really don't care that much about oil brand. I don't like M1 though. It's overhyped more than Amsoil. Do I ever see problems with Amsoil? No. Do I ever see problems with M1? Yes all the time. Do I see much problems with any brand besides M1? Not really. I usually run Castrol, Napa or Rotella.

Ditto.

Kracka 07-15-2010 11:31 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
oil thread: http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showthr...140#post349140

Murlo26 07-15-2010 01:08 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
AMS Spec JE pistons will be at DB tomorrow, just got word from AMS :)

More money for them over the Manley's but able to handle more power and I don't have to wait for the rest of the summer for them.

Kracka 07-15-2010 01:26 PM

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What's different about "AMS spec" compared to off the shelf JE's?


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