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Kracka 05-20-2010 02:04 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Did you at least have your tubular manifold ceramic coated?

scheides 05-20-2010 02:04 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Yuppers, I'll make time man. Lets get through the weekend then pick a day that works!

Murlo26 05-20-2010 02:19 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 340817)
Did you at least have your tubular manifold ceramic coated?

I thought he did.

A//// Guy 05-20-2010 02:20 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Whats wrong with the stock fluid? Are you really going to be pushing the car that hard? Racing/autox?

Kracka 05-20-2010 02:43 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
I think he is heading up to BIR.

mlomker 05-20-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 340824)
Whats wrong with the stock fluid? Are you really going to be pushing the car that hard? Racing/autox?

HPDE on Monday and the auto-x novice school on the 5th & 6th. TTM's inspection checklist says that your brake fluid should be no more than 6 months old. I've owned the car less than a year but it was manufactured some time in 2007, I'd imagine.

My first time up at BIR I actually didn't use the brakes enough to experience fade...I drive like an old lady. That will probably change at some point this Summer, though.

Matt D. 05-20-2010 03:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 340824)
Whats wrong with the stock fluid? Are you really going to be pushing the car that hard? Racing/autox?

He is going to be spending a lot of time at BIR this summer so I commend him for proactively maintaining his brake fluid. The stock fluid is probably fine, but putting in something like ATE Super Blue is never a bad thing.

slowbubblecar 05-20-2010 03:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 340793)
Radiator hoses hold up this go-around? TTM has one date with the long course...that'll be fun. I've obviously never gone flat out in 5th before.

I took my car instead of my brother's blue one. No issues aside from needing to change tires. I used these rear tires at prior HPDEs so they had some wear to begin with. I ended up stealing my brother's rear wheels and finishing his tires off as well :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 340835)
TTM's inspection checklist says that your brake fluid should be no more than 6 months old.

My first time up at BIR I actually didn't use the brakes enough to experience fade...I drive like an old lady. That will probably change at some point this Summer, though.

They probably won't actually inspect your fluid, but it is always best to make sure it is fresh. I bought some of the super blue from MAP and put that in before I went. Still managed to experience brake fade if I was heavy on the brakes for multiple laps.

Not sure what you have done to your brakes, but mine at still 100% stock on my car. I will probably try to upgrade them before the next track day I attend. My car has only 14k on it so there is still some life in the pads/rotors. Would probably benefit greatly from some better ones though.

mlomker 05-20-2010 03:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slowbubblecar (Post 340845)
Not sure what you have done to your brakes, but mine at still 100% stock on my car.

Stock, factory brake fluid and all. The plan is to put on the Technafit lines & ATE Super Blue next week.

With only 7k miles on the car there should be plenty of brake pad left on there. I intend to burn them up in the next couple of months and then I'll go to Girodisc rotors and DS2500's.

mlomker 05-21-2010 12:45 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Ignorance bit me again. Valvoline put a quart too much oil in at the last change and I didn't know that being a little too full is very bad on turbo cars.

Swifty coated DB's dyno with coolant and very late last night my car covered it and my engine bay in oil.

FML. Only got one pull in...said it did 350 at wastegate (21-22psi).

Kracka 05-21-2010 12:48 PM

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Any damage?

turbotalon1g 05-21-2010 12:56 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Badass on power, just bad on the motor oil thing.

scheides 05-21-2010 12:56 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Oil can be cleaned, don't worry. Hopefully it's not indicative of a bigger problem.

polishmafia 05-21-2010 12:57 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
You know what else is bad for turbo cars? Taking them to Valvoline.

mlomker 05-21-2010 01:01 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 340985)
Any damage?

Too early to tell but he voiced concerns about the turbo seals if the return line couldn't function.

He said that dialing in the ID2000's was a pita due to having fewer tables available so that took some time. It was 1am by the time Shane cleaned things up and drained some oil from the car.

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Originally Posted by polishmafia (Post 340990)
You know what else is bad for turbo cars? Taking them to Valvoline.

No, this one is on me. They show you the dipstick before you leave and I checked the level multiple times. I just didn't know better.

A//// Guy 05-21-2010 01:04 PM

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You dont know how to read if the oil is over the level on the dipstick??

That sucks dude, hopefully the turbos ok.

Kracka 05-21-2010 01:05 PM

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Hopefully the turbo's fine and it's nothing more than spilled oil.

mlomker 05-21-2010 01:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 340994)
You dont know how to read if the oil is over the level on the dipstick??

It was a little over the top line when measured cold. It was on the top line when I changed it at 1k miles (using the amount listed in the owners manual) so I didn't think anything of it.

I guess we need to use less than book and have it between the lines when cold so that when hot it isn't too full.

mlomker 05-21-2010 01:16 PM

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A//// Guy 05-21-2010 01:18 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
That was a good zing, gotta admit. :)

311evo 05-21-2010 01:20 PM

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sucks man, good luck getting it all sorted out.

I think someone needs to invest in a jack?

ignore the hate, it's just people feeling superior for whatever lame reason.

Halon 05-21-2010 01:26 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Welcome to DSMStyle!!! Where when you screw up, people let you know rather than giving you some sugar-coated response.

Just learn from it, take the comments for what they are and just move onwards and upwards!

Just be glad no one has brought up flamadation valve issues to you yet :)


Good luck and hopefully their is no real damage.

mlomker 05-21-2010 01:34 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 341003)
That was a good zing, gotta admit. :)

I would have laughed if any of my friends on here said it.

The first thing I did, of course, is to Google the matter. The manual says 5 quarts. Valvoline used 5.1. Consensus on the forums is to use a little less, perhaps 4.8.

Shane thought it was a quart over. It must have been due to heat expansion while on the dyno because 4.1qts would put it at the bottom of the fill line, I should think.

It didn't pop the dipstick while I had it but I kept it under 5k rpms.

Matt D. 05-21-2010 01:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 311evo (Post 341004)
ignore the hate, it's just people feeling superior for whatever lame reason.

Yep, the condescending comments lately are getting old. This is MistuStyle, not NABR.

mlomker 05-21-2010 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 311evo (Post 341004)
I think someone needs to invest in a jack?

I have a nice one...some of the guys used it on the newb mod day. I don't have a garage and buying one of those isn't in the budget right now.

A//// Guy 05-21-2010 01:41 PM

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Even if you put 5.5 quarts in it, I doubt that the turbo return line would be covered up, if it is, thats a crappy pan design. Filling it to the max is common so I dont know if thats the issue here.

311evo 05-21-2010 01:43 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 341010)
I have a nice one...some of the guys used it on the newb mod day. I don't have a garage and buying one of those isn't in the budget right now.

I've changed my oil outside more times than inside. :P Totally worth it, just to have the piece of mind that you knew what came out, and what went in.

Murlo26 05-21-2010 01:57 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Bummer...i was actually thinking of heading up to DB today to check the dyno tune out.

So is he putting the car back on today at all?

slowbubblecar 05-21-2010 02:15 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 341011)
Even if you put 5.5 quarts in it, I doubt that the turbo return line would be covered up, if it is, thats a crappy pan design. Filling it to the max is common so I dont know if thats the issue here.

+1. I think it would need to be quite a bit over to cause any real damage. Haven't worked on or even seen the motor on a X though.

BTW, how did the car lose the oil?

Shane@DBPerformance 05-21-2010 02:18 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
The only time you would be able to get the factory capacity into an oil change is with a totally dry motor. Like a new build with a totally dry/clean oil pan, dry oil cooler, dry, oil cooler lines, etc. Most of the quick change oil places are also not going to let the oil drain for 15 mins either and try to get as much out, they will pull the plug, let it drain quick, throw the plug back in and then if they put in the factory oil system CAPACITY, then you might have too much. Too much oil can blow turbo seals, other engine seals, rod HP, etc. The turbo oil return lines are usually right at the oil level and it you unhook it with the car off, oil will drain out. With the car running the level will be a little lower and allow it to return ok. A little bit too much and the oil starts to back up into the return line.

Murlo26 05-21-2010 02:18 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 340984)
Ignorance bit me again. Valvoline put a quart too much oil in at the last change and I didn't know that being a little too full is very bad on turbo cars.

Swifty coated DB's dyno with coolant and very late last night my car covered it and my engine bay in oil.

FML. Only got one pull in...said it did 350 at wastegate (21-22psi).

Sounds right for power, i checked my thread and i hit 355 at 20psi, checked my "twitter" feed in my thread, lol, when i was posting all the results.

Damn it, i wanna see what this makes.

scheides 05-21-2010 02:20 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 341009)
Yep, the condescending comments lately are getting old. This is MistuStyle, not NABR.

+1 keep it above the belt guys, maybe a little higher.

Halon 05-21-2010 02:22 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
So did the dipstick just blow out, and that is what covered things in oil? Blowing out a dipstick on these cars isn't the most uncommon thing ever.

Shane@DBPerformance 05-21-2010 02:25 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Yea, it blew the dipstick and then a geyser of oil shot out. Kinda like a 4G63, but instead of a little spray, it was a fountain.

311evo 05-21-2010 02:30 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 341022)
Yea, it blew the dipstick and then a geyser of oil shot out. Kinda like a 4G63, but instead of a little spray, it was a fountain.

Was this the new performance lube BOV I've been hearing about? get's ya vtec numbers from what I hear..

Halon 05-21-2010 02:31 PM

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Geebus. I'm trying to imagine if that would have happened and you had you're cool little "knock headphones" on and your head down in the engine bay, and BOOM OLD FAITHFUL IN THE FACE!!! Man that woulda been rough!

Kracka 05-21-2010 02:32 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 341022)
Yea, it blew the dipstick and then a geyser of oil shot out. Kinda like a 4G63, but instead of a little spray, it was a fountain.

Better consult Kevin Costner.

311evo 05-21-2010 02:33 PM

Re: Evo X upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 341026)
BOOM OLD FAITHFUL IN THE FACE!!! Man that woulda been rough!

Sounds like my friday night.

(LOL)

Halon 05-21-2010 02:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 311evo (Post 341028)
Sounds like my friday night.

(LOL)

Hahaha! I don't think I even want to ask :D

A//// Guy 05-21-2010 02:36 PM

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Hmmmm I would think she would say that, and not he? hahaha


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